List Mgmt. 2026 List Management

[Blue By Blood]

Sorry to be asking this as I am sure it has been brought up in the past 24 hours? But with Will White being shown the door, does that mean it is Elijah Hollands or is he now battling it out with Derksen? I thought with Motlops ACL we may be allowed to have 2 spots to fill instead of one. What happened to Will White (so we have made our choice) anf what does this mean for Cartlon (1 or 2 SSP) and who is most likely considering Hollands past transgressions and our desperate need for a KPP? Do we take them both or do we have to pick one?

As things currently stand we have only one available spot to fill. We haven't yet moved Motlop to the long term injury list but if/when we do that opens up the second spot.

I believe the club has seen enough from Elijah this preseason, his effort and application (and undeniable skill) means he probably has the spot sewn up but we don't need to and probably won't announce that until right before the deadline (March 2nd). Reading the tea leaves, this is why we have let White go as we know Lij has done enough to get that spot albeit not official yet.

Whether we moved Motlop to the LTI and opened up that second spot to take a Derksen or Phillips as well as Lij or whether we left that second vacancy until the mid season draft would have been a 50/50 call IMO. But now with the unfortunate Weitering situation, if that's a significant injury, we virtually have no choice but to add a second SSP player (tall defender). Starting to look wafer thin without Weitering and Haynes.

 

[Blue By Blood]

Fantasy question. Reading reports sounds like Cerra is fit. How's he looking? Who will your starting 3 mids be? Walsh, Cripps and... Cerra or young Smith? Thanks in advance.

I would suspect Cripps, Walsh, Hewett, and Cerra will still make up the bulk of what we use through the midfield. Hewett would likely get more midfield minutes than Cerra as he's less versatile. You may find Cerra starts on the bench or maybe even elsewhere on the ground and rotates through. But I think/hope we will roll more numbers through there this year with Jagga and Lord both likely to get midfield minutes. From a fantasy perspective, Cerra offers less value this year than his starting price last year. He is looking very fit though and has had a good preseason so that's a good sign.

 

[potta50]

I would suspect Cripps, Walsh, Hewett, and Cerra will still make up the bulk of what we use through the midfield. Hewett would likely get more midfield minutes than Cerra as he's less versatile. You may find Cerra starts on the bench or maybe even elsewhere on the ground and rotates through. But I think/hope we will roll more numbers through there this year with Jagga and Lord both likely to get midfield minutes. From a fantasy perspective, Cerra offers less value this year than his starting price last year. He is looking very fit though and has had a good preseason so that's a good sign.

Appreciate that

 

[The Bighouse]

You’d think with Weiters injury and our general lack of KPD depth that both Lij and Derksen are locks now.

Might have to forego a mid season pick and just lock them both away

You deal with MSD when it comes around. 11-12 rounds of football and injuries occur in the sport - most clubs will be likely to able to have a pick with a player/s moved to the Inactive List.

Against keeping a spot open from the SSP availability. The NN decision last year was baffling as well with the end result of his recovery still on-going (+ Cotters announced soon after “out for the season” IIRC).

 

[dumb]

we were already light on for kpd before it was time to add to the list last year... and didn't.

 

[gbatman]

A lot is going to weigh on Lewis Young

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Lewis Young

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27

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202cm

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99kg

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11.6

3star

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7.5

3star

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4.1

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4.4

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1.6

4star

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197.9

3star

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4.0

1star

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3.0

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1.0

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3.0

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0.0

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26.0

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14.4

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8.2

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6.2

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6.4

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2.0

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181.6

3star

now Weitering is injured. What we are going to need is backup for him. I am ok with Young being the main key defender, he's better at that than any other role, we just can't really afford him to go down.

 

[JJBagger]

we were already light on for kpd before it was time to add to the list last year... and didn't.

Weitering, Young, Dean, McGovern, Haynes and HOF when fit, Duffy, Derksen (?). You don’t think that’s enough key defender depth?

 

[Beyond Blue]

Weitering, Young, Dean, McGovern, Haynes and HOF when fit, Duffy, Derksen (?). You don’t think that’s enough key defender depth?

IMO Gov and Haynes are not key defenders. Duffy is miles off being a player at afl level. Derksen is not even on the list yet. Young also doubles as key forward depth.

So the list is more like Young, Dean, HOF and Weitering. IMO I think it’s reasonable to say we lack key defender depth.

Probably the same can be said for key forward depth, especially if forced to send Kemp back as key defender cover in the face of injuries.

 

[JJBagger]

IMO Gov and Haynes are not key defenders. Duffy is miles off being a player at afl level. Derksen is not even on the list yet. Young also doubles as key forward depth.

So the list is more like Young, Dean, HOF and Weitering. IMO I think it’s reasonable to say we lack key defender depth.

Probably the same can be said for key forward depth, especially if forced to send Kemp back as key defender cover in the face of injuries.

Duffy plays as a KPP, and is on the list, so he is in that group. If we pick up either Phillips or Derksen, then that's another. Gov and Haynes can play (and have played) that role too, whether you think they are key position players or not. So you can't just dismiss them

 

[Blue By Blood]

IMO Gov and Haynes are not key defenders. Duffy is miles off being a player at afl level. Derksen is not even on the list yet. Young also doubles as key forward depth.

So the list is more like Young, Dean, HOF and Weitering. IMO I think it’s reasonable to say we lack key defender depth.

Probably the same can be said for key forward depth, especially if forced to send Kemp back as key defender cover in the face of injuries.

Both Gov and Haynes are unlikely to be on the list at the end of the year (and are third tall intercepting types more than true KPD) so bringing in a KPD/swingman or two now gives them time to gel with the team and learn game plan. I'm with you that we lack depth. Can't exactly count Duffy as he's a project player, HOF is coming of an ACL, Dean is yet to play a game, and both Gov and Haynes are right at the end of their careers. We lack depth plain and simple. Both ends of the ground in key position stocks.

 

[Beyond Blue]

Duffy plays as a KPP, and is on the list, so he is in that group. If we pick up either Phillips or Derksen, then that's another. Gov and Haynes can play (and have played) that role too, whether you think they are key position players or not. So you can't just dismiss them

If Duffy had to be considered to play a league game this year as a key defender we are in a world of trouble.

 

[The Bighouse]

We aren’t though. We’ve got multiple players that play that can fill that role training with us in pre season - Derksen and Phillips

Need to cast the net wider.
Phillips is on trial II and looked poor in the match sim. VFL material that we’ve had a close enough look at, much like McMahon.
Derksen + +
Get them and have a look for 2-weeks to see who may have something to offer at AFL level. Should have been done earlier when we had intraclubs vs practice games that they can’t play in.

 

[The Bighouse]

Weitering, Young, Dean, McGovern, Haynes and HOF when fit, Duffy, Derksen (?). You don’t think that’s enough key defender depth?

McGovern is barely a defender let alone a KPD. Haynes (injured/last season?) is not a KPP either and is played out of position when done so.

We’re light on.
Duffy has to improve at a drastic rate to be considered in the conversation - struggle at VFL level vs AFL.

HOF is unavailable, which is part of the point on the coverage.
Dean in year# 1 and you’d prefer not to throw the wolves.

Khamis was our answer and he’s also not a KPD, or KPF.

 

[BigFrizz36]

Need to have a look at a Sam Frost type

For comedy value?

 

[JJBagger]

Need to cast the net wider.
Phillips is on trial II and looked poor in the match sim. VFL material that we’ve had a close enough look at, much like McMahon.
Derksen + +
Get them and have a look for 2-weeks to see who may have something to offer at AFL level. Should have been done earlier when we had intraclubs vs practice games that they can’t play in.

Okay, so who else is available to contribute to the KPD depth?

 

[The Bighouse]

Okay, so who else is available to contribute to the KPD depth?

That’s for our recruiting team to get to work on. Mick just left the building…

 

[JJBagger]

That’s for our recruiting team to get to work on. Mick just left the building…

So Philips and Derksen aren’t good enough, but you have no alternatives?

 

[The Bighouse]

So Philips and Derksen aren’t good enough, but you have no alternatives?

Again, read above - this is on the professional recruiting department at CFC to scour candidates.

Phillips is being shown up (for the 2nd time trialling) & Derksen has only just entered the fray.
There’s been the opportunity since 11th Jan with Motlop ACL to do this with extras training outside our VFL team.

The whiteboard should have plenty of names on it from trade/draft time to put under the microscope in pre-season training. It was an area of concern that wasn’t addressed at trade by the same CFC dept.

 

[JJBagger]

Again, read above - this is on the professional recruiting department at CFC to scour candidates.

Phillips is being shown up (for the 2nd time trialling) & Derksen has only just entered the fray.
There’s been the opportunity since 11th Jan with Motlop ACL to do this with extras training outside our VFL team.

The whiteboard should have plenty of names on it from trade/draft time to put under the microscope in pre-season training. It was an area of concern that wasn’t addressed at trade by the same CFC dept.

Again, who is available? Philips won our VFL best n fairest, and played some blinding games last season. Derksen was on an AFL list a couple of months ago. It’s okay to say they aren’t good enough, but if they aren’t, then who is? Also, I doubt the list management team expected half our best defenders to have injury concerns in pre season

 

[katmanblue]

This decision makes no sense. We can always make room in the mid season draft if any other injuries occur between now and then. Let's face it. We all know this is inevitable.

C'mon.

It's the same as last year with Newman. Was such a good decision not to put him on the inactive list. Came back and played some really good foot... He didn't did he?

 

[Beyond Blue]

Again, who is available? Philips won our VFL best n fairest, and played some blinding games last season. Derksen was on an AFL list a couple of months ago. It’s okay to say they aren’t good enough, but if they aren’t, then who is? Also, I doubt the list management team expected half our best defenders to have injury concerns in pre season

It was known before the end of last year that HOF would be out for the majority of the 2026 year. If they thought we could cover him with 2 non KP intercept defenders, a rookie out of junior footy and cat b rookie from Ireland then they probably don’t deserve a job in list management.

 

[JJBagger]

It was known before the end of last year that HOF would be out for the majority of the 2026 year. If they thought we could cover him with 2 non KP intercept defenders, a rookie out of junior footy and cat b rookie from Ireland then they probably don’t deserve a job in list management.

So are we offering a multi year, no doubt financially lucrative, deal to a bloke that will potentially be playing reserves in 3 years as Dean and HOF have been earmarked as our pillars to accompany Weitering in the backline?

Oh wait, we did that with Buku Khamis didn’t we?

 

[Bamboo Harvester]

Talking to a good family friend of Derken yesterday he believes his close to getting a spot.

He was one of the few players that came over to the boundary at the end of the session yesterday to spend time chatting to the faithful, signing autographs, doing photo selfies etc etc.

Seems like a confident young man listening to him. His listed height varies from 194 to 197cm depending on which website you venture onto, but when he was standing next to Lewy Young on the boundary, seems closer to the 194cm mark, similar to that turd who went to the Swans.

Either way, gets my thumbs up if we do take him

 

[Beyond Blue]

So are we offering a multi year, no doubt financially lucrative, deal to a bloke that will potentially be playing reserves in 3 years as Dean and HOF have been earmarked as our pillars to accompany Weitering in the backline?

Oh wait, we did that with Buku Khamis didn’t we?

Problem is he didn’t get the deal done for Khamis so now we’re short. Leaves the coach exposed to less than ideal work arounds at best. It’s poor list management. Even worse given we’ve had this situation play out as recently 2022 under his watch. We can’t keep making excuses for Austin.

 

[JJBagger]

Problem is he didn’t get the deal done for Khamis so now we’re short. Leaves the coach exposed to less than ideal work arounds at best. It’s por list management. Even worse given we’ve had this situation play out as recently 2022 under his watch. We can’t keep making excuses for Austin.

Poor list management because we didn’t get a tried and tested second or third tall defender when we have 2 that - while being young - have been earmarked as the future? Good luck getting a deal done without paying through the roof, while not potentially stifling the development of HOF and Dean