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[Moon]

I heard Cooper Cronk speaking, whom I consider the best analyst from either code, esp among ex-players.

He said "do what you're good at" in reference to a player who was under-performing bc he was trying to do other things that he felt were required in his position but that weren't within his own strengths. A fitting simplicity to the statement.

I disagree with Cronk .. ie stick with your strengths.

Players should be working on improving their weaknesses.

It's like rather than a natural Right footer practicing to kick on their left so that they are good on both sides ... chooses to do inside outs using their dominant Right foot when close to the boundary having a shot for Goal. You see Players shanking it rather than use their left because they haven't developed it. So much of an advantage being good on both sides.

Players need to be the best they can be rather than opting to take short cuts. It is the wrong mindset.
Which is better .. try avoiding your weaknesses or improve on them so that they are no longer weaknesses..?

 

[Stamos]

It brings me to a point that I bang on about all the time. It's not a Carlton thing. I'd say it's virtually competition wide, with player exceptions rather than club exceptions. So many of what are generally considered the basics have disappeared from modern day footy and I see it being so costly every week. I'm not even sure many players would understand what I mean by the basics, tbh - keeping the feet, hitting targets with handballs, shepherding (!), smothering etc. Every week, it drives me nuts watching the cost of not doing these things.

It's more of a Carlton thing though. Even when we were the best team in the league from mid 23 to mid 24, we were really bad at the basics.
Collingwood on the other hand are very good at it, it is the McCrae's biggest focus. And they got a flag, and regularly outperform their talent.

 

[charred_fate]

I disagree with Cronk .. ie stick with your strengths.

Players should be working on improving their weaknesses.

It's like rather than a natural Right footer practicing to kick on their left so that they are good on both sides ... chooses to do inside outs using their dominant Right foot when close to the boundary having a shot for Goal. You see Players shanking it rather than use their left because they haven't developed it. So much of an advantage being good on both sides.

Players need to be the best they can be rather than opting to take short cuts. It is the wrong mindset.
Which is better .. try avoiding your weaknesses or improve on them so that they are no longer weaknesses..?

Cronk wasn’t talking in the sense of not trying to improve your weaknesses but rather not trying to play a role that ends up being to the detriment of the value that you bring to a team.

In Cripps’ case for instance, if his value is elite skill is first possession and feeding it out, be that guy because the value to the team exceeds (theoretically at least) Cripps trying to be the line-breaking goal-kicker.

 

[charred_fate]

It's more of a Carlton thing though. Even when we were the best team in the league from mid 23 to mid 24, we were really bad at the basics.
Collingwood on the other hand are very good at it, it is the McCrae's biggest focus. And they got a flag, and regularly outperform their talent.

Yeah, Pies definitely best at it. I said to my mate yesty that I can’t help but feel that McCrae would still be getting the best out of Cripps.

 

[Moon]

And Collingwood have always been prepared to carry out the 1% ers ... play high IQ footy and conserve energy ... yet can still chase their opponents all Day and still manage to go up a gear in the 4th quarter and overtake their tiring opponents.
They get a sniff in the 4th and there is no stopping them

I don't know how they can do it .... but they do. They were doing this well before McRae arrived... in the Buckley era

 

[Accidental genius]

Cronk wasn’t talking in the sense of not trying to improve your weaknesses but rather not trying to play a role that ends up being to the detriment of the value that you bring to a team.

In Cripps’ case for instance, if his value is elite skill is first possession and feeding it out, be that guy because the value to the team exceeds (theoretically at least) Cripps trying to be the line-breaking goal-kicker.

Agreed...

In short....Cripps needs to stop trying to do what Bont does...

Chalk and Cheese.


Cripps in and under..getting dirty, extracting the ball and handpassing it out to an elite runner/ball user (dont have at this stage).

 

[HereComesJuddy]

Cripps can’t go the distance of 4 quarters at the pace the game is now at.

This recent game against the Dees, he was on the field for 84% of game time. If we compare that to Pendles at the Pies, he was on the ground 64% of game time in round 1.

Yes Pendles is 7 years older but Cripps is not built to run like what the game demands. It’s about being smart.

I’d be starting Cripps on the bench for at least the first 5 minutes of each quarter (except the 1st) and also give him a 5 plus minute rest 20 minutes or so into each quarter. Yes, it pushed up our rotations and will put more game time on our other mids, but if we value Cripps, we need to work within his limitations. Maybe 70% game time for Cripps is a better outcome than 84%??? Maybe…

Hewett probably similar which means we would need to play an extra mid off the bench imo.

But running non endurance footy players into the ground (in our midfield), 9 times out of 10, our second halves will be poor outcome for the club.

 

[Sharks On A Plane]

Cripps can’t go the distance of 4 quarters at the pace the game is now at.

This recent game against the Dees, he was on the field for 84% of game time. If we compare that to Pendles at the Pies, he was on the ground 40% of game time this week just gone.

Yes Pendles is 7 years older but Cripps is not built to run like what the game demands.

I’d be starting Cripps on the bench for at least the first 5 minutes of each quarter and also give him a 5 plus minute rest 20 minutes or so into each quarter. Yes, it pushed up our rotations and will put more game time on our other mids, but if we value Cripps, we need to work within his limitations.

Hewett probably similar which means we would need to play an extra mid off the bench imo.

But running non endurance footy players into the ground (in our midfield), 9 times out of 10, our second halves will be poor outcome for the club.

Pendlebury was injured and didn't come back on after half time, but your point re: Cripps is a valid one. Need to heavily reduce his TOG.

 

[HereComesJuddy]

Pendlebury was injured and didn't come back on after half time, but your point re: Cripps is a valid one. Need to heavily reduce his TOG.

Didn’t realise, but yes! Round 1 saw Pendles play 64% of game time

 

[Coops93]

He’s a free agent, and a bloody good player. You are just not going to get him to sign for a 2 year contract, never in a million years was that ever an option.
Once it got past last years trade period it was either accept free agency compo or sign to a long term contract. They were the ONLY options and anything else is just hyperbole

He was a RFA, so we still had rights to him no matter what. I'd rather have waited and seen how the year went before throwing out a hugely long contract.

 

[Coops93]

I would imagine at least one of Cripps, Cerra and Hewett will be moved on this year.

Walker, Walsh, Jagga is a far more balanced midfield mix than what we've been seeing the last 4-5 years.

I doubt Cripps gets moved, as no one would really trade much for him at this point, Cerra has years to go on a long term deal so unlikely, and Hewett likely has little value at this point. Only one I can see moved is Hewett, and it's a delisting, which I don't think happens.

Agree that's a better looking midfield in 3 yrs time, provided Walsh finally learns to play with some composure.

 

[Ninja Worrier]

Hewett or Cripps should be moved on applying the Carlos Pena principle

 

[Alice]

I disagree with Cronk .. ie stick with your strengths.

Players should be working on improving their weaknesses.

It's like rather than a natural Right footer practicing to kick on their left so that they are good on both sides ... chooses to do inside outs using their dominant Right foot when close to the boundary having a shot for Goal. You see Players shanking it rather than use their left because they haven't developed it. So much of an advantage being good on both sides.

Players need to be the best they can be rather than opting to take short cuts. It is the wrong mindset.
Which is better .. try avoiding your weaknesses or improve on them so that they are no longer weaknesses..?

Or …. Improve your strengths!!

 

[AndyLucimitis]

Didn’t realise, but yes! Round 1 saw Pendles play 64% of game time

Are people aware that Pendlebury came from a basketball background ?

 

[teagueyubeauty]

He was a RFA, so we still had rights to him no matter what. I'd rather have waited and seen how the year went before throwing out a hugely long contract.

The options don’t change

 

[Bletch]

SOS after Ethan Phillips now, following in the footsteps of Caminiti.

If it's not our senior list, he'll settle for our VFL list!

 

[Red Bull]

SOS after Ethan Phillips now, following in the footsteps of Caminiti.

If it's not our senior list, he'll settle for our VFL list!

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Bloke has real issues.
He needs some help …

 

[RAPPA]

Bloke has real issues.
He needs some help …

He needs an SOS

 

[TENACIOUS]

SOS after Ethan Phillips now, following in the footsteps of Caminiti.

If it's not our senior list, he'll settle for our VFL list!

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SOS and Saints obsessed with Carlton.

SOS stay away from Lewis Young and Motlop

 

[steviewonder36]

Why are the Camporeale boys not getting time in the 1sts?

They seemed to get alot of hype when Carlton drafted them

 

[HavUEvaSeenTheRain]

Why are the Camporeale boys not getting time in the 1sts?

They seemed to get alot of hype when Carlton drafted them

They went in the 40’s and 50’s of the draft

 

[Soapy V]

Cripps can’t go the distance of 4 quarters at the pace the game is now at.

This recent game against the Dees, he was on the field for 84% of game time. If we compare that to Pendles at the Pies, he was on the ground 64% of game time in round 1.

Yes Pendles is 7 years older but Cripps is not built to run like what the game demands. It’s about being smart.

I’d be starting Cripps on the bench for at least the first 5 minutes of each quarter (except the 1st) and also give him a 5 plus minute rest 20 minutes or so into each quarter. Yes, it pushed up our rotations and will put more game time on our other mids, but if we value Cripps, we need to work within his limitations. Maybe 70% game time for Cripps is a better outcome than 84%??? Maybe…

Hewett probably similar which means we would need to play an extra mid off the bench imo.

But running non endurance footy players into the ground (in our midfield), 9 times out of 10, our second halves will be poor outcome for the club.

It was so obvious on Sunday

5 man bench and modern game style has killed the effectiveness of names like Cripps & Hewett. Hewett is really struggling a defend and Cripps isn't much better. Even Jack Steele was running past them

It was made very clear to me on weekend that we have a heap of players OOC and with SC room and a heap of picks Wright will make big changes this off season to our list. As was said to me by more than one person, a few big names will be moved on.

 

[Accidental genius]

It was so obvious on Sunday

5 man bench and modern game style has killed the effectiveness of names like Cripps & Hewett. Hewett is really struggling a defend and Cripps isn't much better. Even Jack Steele was running past them

It was made very clear to me on weekend that we have a heap of players OOC and with SC room and a heap of picks Wright will make big changes this off season to our list. As was said to me by more than one person, a few big names will be moved on.

Big names can only mean Weitering Harry Cripps or Walsh....

Extremely unlikely to be Walsh or Weits.

Cripps - maybe if he wanted to play out his career back home over in the west....still think unlikely

Really only leaves Harry ??

Unless you consider Saad, Newman, Mcgov, haynes acres etc big names ??

 

[BluesForEternity]

Big names can only mean Weitering Harry Cripps or Walsh....

Extremely unlikely to be Walsh or Weits.

Cripps - maybe if he wanted to play out his career back home over in the west....still think unlikely

Really only leaves Harry ??

Unless you consider Saad, Newman, Mcgov, haynes acres etc big names ??

Worth noting that Gettable made a point to emphasise Cripps is an interesting “watch this space” situation. I think literally nobody would begrudge him at this stage if he wanted to go home to WA to play out his final years.

 

[ctwenty1]

Big names can only mean Weitering Harry Cripps or Walsh....

Extremely unlikely to be Walsh or Weits.

Cripps - maybe if he wanted to play out his career back home over in the west....still think unlikely

Really only leaves Harry ??

Unless you consider Saad, Newman, Mcgov, haynes acres etc big names ??

Big names for us

Expect Cerra and George in there