Current 4yo Boy Missing Yunta SA

[Wallace52]

I wonder why they are taking so long after announcing it, to return to do a fourth search? Watching?

Maybe the cops are searching but due to lack of media coverage we as the public are not informed?

IMO

 

[PenfoldsFan]

I wouldn't allow any random from the public on to my station, potentially getting themselves lost, running out of water and/or fuel, passing out of dehydration, having heart attacks and ploughing through the dirt with their tyres also potentially destroying evidence.

The military have been right over the station taking imagery, if he's there I think they'll find him.

I wouldnt care who volunteered to help me find my loved one.
Id cook them as many lamb chops as they could eat, truck in pallets of water, provide fuel and have maps, plans and medical aid on site, no expense spared.


Its a 4yo child, not a mobile phone.

 

[31550]

Yeah it is and I've wondered if it's the shearer’s quarters, not far from this house is the shearing shed

Begs the question if police have thoroughly forensically searched all buildings on the property. And vehicles.

 

[Fifty n Closing]

If not already underway in the background it will be interesting to see how long until the likes of 60 minutes/Sunday Night etc put something together about this and release it.

 

[31550]

If not already underway in the background it will be interesting to see how long until the likes of 60 minutes/Sunday Night etc put something together about this and release it.

There may be suppression orders in place. The media silence is deafening.

 

[Collie_wobbles]

Begs the question if police have thoroughly forensically searched all buildings on the property. And vehicles.

Given the only narrative given by SAPOL is that Gus wandered off, it's highly unlikely they did a deep forensic analysis on all vehicles/buildings on that farm imo

 

[31550]

If true that's crazy.
Why not all States?
Maybe in South Australia they are scared of using them, might find too many people they don't want found

Has it been confirmed whether cadaver dogs have at least been considered by SAPOL? There are organisations which can supply them (and handlers) even if SAPOL don't have any themselves. Would seem to be a useful tool at this stage.

 

[Kurve]

This is an image taken by a police chopper and how they found AJ Elfalak in the NSW bush. You can see it's quite rugged terrain.

It was a happy ending to the story.

 

[31550]

This is an image taken by a police chopper and how they found AJ Elfalak in the NSW bush. You can see it's quite rugged terrain.

It was a happy ending to the story.

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Happy and also possibly lucky. Although only 500 metres from home, it took 3 days to find him, and it was noted that teams had probably walked right past his location multiple times. Doesn't look like they used sniffer dogs either?

 

[Kurve]

Happy and also possibly lucky. Although only 500 metres from home, it took 3 days to find him, and it was noted that teams had probably walked right past his location multiple times. Doesn't look like they used sniffer dogs either?

AJ was non verbal, he may have hidden in thick scrub from people he thought were strangers or he may also have been trying to make his way back to the house when he was found, he could have been further out.

 

[Kurve]

Maybe people in the bush and remote might consider putting a tracking device on their kids. If I had my time over again with little ones, I'd have them on so I could check where they were at any time.

 

[zedx]

Maybe people in the bush and remote might consider putting a tracking device on their kids. If I had my time over again with little ones, I'd have them on so I could check where they were at any time.

I had been secretly tracking my youngest since she received her first iPhone through access to 'find my iPhone' !! When she was around 18 and I admitted it to her and she told me she and all her friends always though I had some sort of crazy psychic ability !! She thought it was hilarious. Since then we agreed to use another APP because she said it makes her feel safe. Once when she went to a 'Bush doof' and realized she was out of phone range, she made her friend drive her back to phone range so she could ring me and tell me why she was off line!! It has actually helped make her a very strong and independent young woman as she always feels safe in doing as she wants. I do realise though, that it was 'kinda' wrong and things could have turned out differently but luckily we have a good relationship so it turned out well.

 

[31550]

AJ was non verbal, he may have hidden in thick scrub from people he thought were strangers or he may also have been trying to make his way back to the house when he was found, he could have been further out.

All the more reason to use dogs I thought?

 

[Kurve]

I had been secretly tracking my youngest since she received her first iPhone through access to 'find my iPhone' !! When she was around 18 and I admitted it to her and she told me she and all her friends always though I had some sort of crazy psychic ability !! She thought it was hilarious. Since then we agreed to use another APP because she said it makes her feel safe. Once when she went to a 'Bush doof' and realized she was out of phone range, she made her friend drive her back to phone range so she could ring me and tell me why she was off line!! It has actually helped make her a very strong and independent young woman as she always feels safe in doing as she wants. I do realise though, that it was 'kinda' wrong and things could have turned out differently but luckily we have a good relationship so it turned out well.

Reckon it's a great idea.

You can put them on kids schoolbags and backpacks, their clothing and get them a watch.

Last job I had on a boat which was 14 days at sea and on international waters, I was given a watch with tracking in case I fell overboard. lol It got a bit gnarly at times.

 

[31550]

Maybe people in the bush and remote might consider putting a tracking device on their kids. If I had my time over again with little ones, I'd have them on so I could check where they were at any time.

It's not going to report their presence in real time unless it's connected to the phone network somehow. The GPS will still operate but it can't send location data anywhere. All this will do at best will show you approximately where the kid was when they last pinged a tower (or sometimes a recognised WiFi network connected to the internet). Although if you are actively looking for them and in very close range (say 20-30 metres), bluetooth might find them.

 

[BonzaRam]

Whats 'fair' or reasonable is up to the individual. The question was how common is it that there is no public appeal from or on behalf of a parent in the case of a missing child. Are you able to name one single case in Australia where the child was still missing after a week, let alone a month and no public appeal or even appearance from a parent?. I can't.

Fair point (Whats 'fair' or reasonable is up to the individual. <<< I agree ) and no i cannot, but then i am not monitoring every single disappearance.

Here is some information/advice provided by the National Missing Persons Coordination Centre, it covers NOT contacting the media and why you wouldn't.

"Although using the media can have advantages, you may want to consider the following points before contacting the media. You are under no obligation to involve the media, nor are you obliged to answer any of their questions"

https://www.missingpersons.gov.au/sites/default/files/PDF%20-%20Publications/NMPCC/Factsheets/NMPCCFS_Media_2015.pdf

 

[Curious Clues]

Let’s hope there are rural property owners all over Australia currently building a safe secure fenced in outdoor play area for their little loved ones if they have any.

 

[31550]

Let’s hope there are rural property owners all over Australia currently building a safe secure fenced in outdoor play area for their little loved ones if they have any.

Many kids Gus's age or even older require active supervision for their own safety. They can only be left unsupervised when they develop certain skills and abilities, but even then, young children are still prone to accidents and misadventure. Fencing might help but it's not the solution.

 

[zedx]

Fair point (Whats 'fair' or reasonable is up to the individual. <<< I agree ) and no i cannot, but then i am not monitoring every single disappearance.

Here is some information/advice provided by the National Missing Persons Coordination Centre, it covers NOT contacting the media and why you wouldn't.

"Although using the media can have advantages, you may want to consider the following points before contacting the media. You are under no obligation to involve the media, nor are you obliged to answer any of their questions"

https://www.missingpersons.gov.au/sites/default/files/PDF%20-%20Publications/NMPCC/Factsheets/NMPCCFS_Media_2015.pdf

Thankyou for this info, very informative points regarding issues of involving the media. My personal experience with a media interview went quite wrong. I told them my child's club were off to the the Eastern states to compete Nationally. When the article came out it read she was off to compete, did not mention club. Put me in a very embarrassing situation with the club!!

 

[zedx]

Many kids Gus's age or even older require active supervision for their own safety. They can only be left unsupervised when they develop certain skills and abilities, but even then, young children are still prone to accidents and misadventure. Fencing might help but it's not the solution.

Yes true. My Grandson is just starting kindy at his local school, he was straight over the school fence (fence is official height around one meter) they cannot keep him in! The school has had to request funding to put in a higher fence to keep him in (he's not the first to escape, but the most 'enthusiastic' ).

 

[Curious Clues]

Many kids Gus's age or even older require active supervision for their own safety. They can only be left unsupervised when they develop certain skills and abilities, but even then, young children are still prone to accidents and misadventure. Fencing might help but it's not the solution.

Yes most definitely a fence in combination with active supervision.

 

[31550]

Why would anyone think they are OBLIGED to talk to media? They are not even obliged to talk to POLICE in ordinary circumstances other than provide name and address.

The question is why don't they WANT to? Given that in EVERY other known missing child case, a parent has eventually made some sort of a public appearance or statement when the child was not found after search attempts. Even if only to publicly thank police and volunteers.

 

[Kurve]

Yes true. My Grandson is just starting kindy at his local school, he was straight over the school fence (fence is official height around one meter) they cannot keep him in! The school has had to request funding to put in a higher fence to keep him in (he's not the first to escape, but the most 'enthusiastic' ).

LOL he too needs an air tag

 

[Wallace52]

why don't they WANT to? Given that in EVERY other known missing child case, a parent has eventually made some sort of a public appearance or statement when the child was not found after search attempts. Even if only to publicly thank police and volunteers.

That’s true. Even Phoebe Bishop’s mum fronted up and faced the media and asked for assistance from the public.

She took responsibility for her missing daughter, even though her child was living independently.

Even though, she was a victim and had no idea where her child was or what happened - (just like Gus’ family).

Because as parents, we step up, we are responsible for our children - even if they go missing.

 

[mrskafoops]

There was this statement made by the family