Current 4yo Boy Missing Yunta SA

[Wallace52]

Who is Fleur Tiver? Not understanding the relevance.

She is a neighbour. She made a statement to the media regarding the case.

 

[Frank Bunn]

SApol public statements say no reason to believe foul play but their actions speak otherwise. Draining the dam only makes sense if they were looking for a body weighed down. Checking mine shafts where Gus could not have wandered to.

 

[MP_]

What sort of evidence would they be looking for?

Evidence of foul play, clothing, weapon???

 

[31550]

Thank you. Wheat Motley is currently closed so makes sense.

And I don't see how he could have wandered on foot to Wheal Motley. So there has to be suspicion of or evidence of foul play so why do they constantly deny this?

 

[Underarrest_]

And I don't see how he could have wandered on foot to Wheal Motley. So there has to be suspicion of or evidence of foul play so why do they constantly deny this?

The media seem to be ramping up with the possibility of human intervention.
Have they taken the weapons from the house yet?
Might be an idea before police comment if they believe foul play includes the member/s of the family.

 

[Earls Smother]

SApol public statements say no reason to believe foul play but their actions speak otherwise. Draining the dam only makes sense if they were looking for a body weighed down. Checking mine shafts where Gus could not have wandered to.

And the 12 detectives are only there to climb on each others shoulders to get in and out of the mines...

 

[Underarrest_]

And the 12 detectives are only there to climb on each others shoulders to get in and out of the mines...

12 Detectives!
Surely they know something.

 

[Earls Smother]

12 Detectives!
Surely they know something.

They're a wheal motley crew apparently.

 

[Underarrest_]

Is there any chance still that Gus did wander off?
I know…trying to see the good.
Some experts have said he could have reached up to 8kms.
Had no idea outside of the property boundary was so close.
But then is there any evidence he wandered off? None that we know of.

 

[MP_]

And I don't see how he could have wandered on foot to Wheal Motley. So there has to be suspicion of or evidence of foul play so why do they constantly deny this?

Probably to stop speculation and so they can concentrate on the job and not have to answer to the public

 

[Underarrest_]

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www.police.sa.gov.au

Inspections complete.

 

[31550]

Probably to stop speculation and so they can concentrate on the job and not have to answer to the public

But that's my point. Why say "No evidence of foul play"? Just say nothing or say "We are investigating all possible scenarios". Or say " We won't comment on an active investigation".

It is the apparent dismissal of foul play which is causing all the discussion and speculation.

 

[Cataholic]

But that's my point. Why say "No evidence of foul play"? Just say nothing or say "We are investigating all possible scenarios". Or say " We won't comment on an active investigation".

It is the apparent dismissal of foul play which is causing all the discussion and speculation.

So he's not in the dams, mineshafts or outbuildings, and hasn't left a single trace of his existence that day.

How does a wandering kid do that?

 

[Edna Mode]

What are the police going to say now after conducting a scrutinising search and coming back with nothing?

 

[Wallace52]

What are the police going to say now after conducting a scrutinising search and coming back with nothing?

They will probably say nothing.

 

[Sqotty from office works]

What are the police going to say now after conducting a scrutinising search and coming back with nothing?

They will get Gary Jubelin to vouch for the family.

 

[Underarrest_]

If the boundary to other places that people might visit is only 5.5 kms away, there’s an increased chance that someone might have been on the property. Maybe a bike.
More likely than by the 20 or so km road someone would have had to come down.
Maybe Grandma Shannon fell asleep with the little one for a bit and didn’t hear anything. IMO.

 

[dc3]

They have repeated that there is no evidence which suggests foul play. Yet they are concentrating their search on 6 mineshafts, off the property, and from 5km to 12km away. The experts advising police have said it's unlikely Gus walked more than 5km from the property.
How do we reconcile the actions with the words?
How does Gus end up in a mineshaft off the property and 12km away without foul play?

Nailed it but we all have the past 20 odd pages

Human intervention was the most probable outcome weeks ago

I’d love to know more about why Gus wasnt in Jess custody

 

[dc3]

Is there any chance still that Gus did wander off?
I know…trying to see the good.
Some experts have said he could have reached up to 8kms.
Had no idea outside of the property boundary was so close.
But then is there any evidence he wandered off? None that we know of.

There wasn’t a chance once the indigenous tracker said there was no trace

His body language at the time was like something is not right here

 

[Underarrest_]

There wasn’t a chance once the indigenous tracker said there was no trace

His body language at the time was like something is not right here

I agree, this is how I took this too.

 

[DropBearess]

I think there might be a midline between a lost child and "foul play". Foul play implies a deliberate, criminal action against another. If this didn't happen, SAPOL are fine to assert they don't suspect it.

I'm thinking something may have happened within Gus's family, or any foster care persons/arrangements involved. This would account for all the silence. As with William Tyrrell, DCS probably intervened, but not before Gus's sketchy details became available. From there, we know nothing.

There are so many maybes here. Maybe SAPOL know exactly what happened. Maybe Gus's family are indeed "fully co-operating". Maybe they truly have no idea of where he is now. Maybe someone in the family has mental health issues and the said family supports them? Maybe that's why SAPOL appear to be supporting them, despite their aggressive behaviours. Maybe arrangements and family promises have been breached and everyone is grieving in more than one way.

If any person was responsible for Gus's disappearance, perhaps they're unwilling or unable to co-operate so his little body can be retrieved. Maybe that's why SAPOL appear to be doing random things.

 

[MP_]

But that's my point. Why say "No evidence of foul play"? Just say nothing or say "We are investigating all possible scenarios". Or say " We won't comment on an active investigation".

It is the apparent dismissal of foul play which is causing all the discussion and speculation.

People are going to speculate regardless of what is or isn’t said, there’s no pleasing you.

 

[dc3]

I think there might be a midline between a lost child and "foul play". Foul play implies a deliberate, criminal action against another. If this didn't happen, SAPOL are fine to assert they don't suspect it.

I'm thinking something may have happened within Gus's family, or any foster care persons/arrangements involved. This would account for all the silence. As with William Tyrrell, DCS probably intervened, but not before Gus's sketchy details became available. From there, we know nothing.

There are so many maybes here. Maybe SAPOL know exactly what happened. Maybe Gus's family are indeed "fully co-operating". Maybe they truly have no idea of where he is now. Maybe someone in the family has mental health issues and the said family supports them? Maybe that's why SAPOL appear to be supporting them, despite their aggressive behaviours. Maybe arrangements and family promises have been breached and everyone is grieving in more than one way.

If any person was responsible for Gus's disappearance, perhaps they're unwilling or unable to co-operate so his little body can be retrieved. Maybe that's why SAPOL appear to be doing random things.

Agree with this but it’s heartbreaking for poor Gus though, he deserves better than this……any child does

 

[CodyRose]

So he's not in the dams, mineshafts or outbuildings, and hasn't left a single trace of his existence that day.

How does a wandering kid do that?

Beats me, probably have to suspend science.

 

[CodyRose]

If the boundary to other places that people might visit is only 5.5 kms away, there’s an increased chance that someone might have been on the property. Maybe a bike.
More likely than by the 20 or so km road someone would have had to come down.
Maybe Grandma Shannon fell asleep with the little one for a bit and didn’t hear anything. IMO.

or AFL turned up too loud