Current 4yo Boy Missing Yunta SA

[31550]

Half km is a long way for a little 4 year old boy to be away from the homestead at any time and they said he didn’t wander.

Who said he didn't wander? How do we know what they meant by that, and if it's true? A 4YO kid would only take about 6 or 7 minutes to walk 500 metres. In the context of a remote rural property, where the child is familiar with the surroundings, I don't think it's unreasonable. He may have been accompanied by someone else when he went to the dam anyway - but maybe he was the only one who stepped in the mud? To leave a footprint, the ground would need to be wet, then dry out. It wasn't wet on the day he disappeared AFAIK. Therefore, the footprint was left previously.

 

[Kurve]

Josie mustn't have seen or heard Jonica Bray otherwise Josie would have been at the front with the shotgun long before she and the photographer got anywhere near the house, and before they had a chance to talk to Shannon.
Didn’t Shannon talk to Jonica first before Josie?

Not necessarily imo.

They weren't to know who was going to get out of the vehicle and what their purpose for visiting was. Of course they were going to wait and find out.

 

[Underarrest_]

Who said he didn't wander? How do we know what they meant by that, and if it's true? A 4YO kid would only take about 6 or 7 minutes to walk 500 metres. In the context of a remote rural property, where the child is familiar with the surroundings, I don't think it's unreasonable. He may have been accompanied by someone else when he went to the dam anyway - but maybe he was the only one who stepped in the mud? To leave a footprint, the ground would need to be wet, then dry out. It wasn't wet on the day he disappeared AFAIK. Therefore, the footprint was left previously.

All I’m saying is the boot print might be of relevance to the case.
Where did it come from? How did it get there if it was recent or from a week ago. Police haven’t said it’s of no relevance and they haven’t said which direction it was (to my knowledge) or if anything was found nearby.

 

[Curious Clues]

I didn't "get them from anywhere". I was illustrating the difficulty of searching. They may say the have searched a 5.5km area but logistically they could not have thoroughly covered that area in a fingertip to fingertip search. I used 1.5 kms and 2.5 kms to show that there is no way even that smaller area has been searched over every meter. And as the radius increases the distance to travel to grid search increases exponentially.
To grid search a 5.5 km radius (which is what I have heard is claimed to have been searched) would require searchers to walk 95,000 kms. Or 100 searchers to each walk 950kms. They haven't covered the ground to that extent.
So very possible he is still in the search area and just has not been found. Probably within the first 2 kms.

And I know they have been using drones but they wouldn't find a body under a thick mallee bush or in a crevice or small overhang. Eyeballs on the ground is the only way.

Apart from the family friend reading out a Thankyou note on day 3, we haven’t heard that the family are dissatisfied with the search efforts since then.
I wonder if the family have privately employed anyone to search the bushy areas or crevices or overhangs with their eyeballs? Sounds like Bob and Fleur are up for it.

 

[winyhill]

Apart from the family friend reading out a Thankyou note on day 3, we haven’t heard that the family are dissatisfied with the search efforts since then.
I wonder if the family have privately employed anyone to search the bushy areas or crevices or overhangs with their eyeballs? Sounds like Bob and Fleur are up for it.

I am pretty sure the family are aware more than anyone of the difficulty of the search and the terrain. I didn't mean they were unhappy and as far as I know, they understand that the Police are doing everything they can with the available resources. If they were not happy, I am sure we would hear about it.

 

[31550]

I am pretty sure the family are aware more than anyone of the difficulty of the search and the terrain. I didn't mean they were unhappy and as far as I know, they understand that the Police are doing everything they can with the available resources. If they were not happy, I am sure we would hear about it.

Not sure about the relevance of the family's happiness or otherwise. What matters most is that everything possible is being done to locate Gus.

 

[PenfoldsFan]

Half km is a long way for a little 4 year old boy to be away from the homestead at any time and they said he didn’t wander.

Why would he need to 'wander' to leave it?

Checking dams on rural properties is a regular thing, many dams are linked via pipelines to shift water to where its needed for livestock.
Its quite plausible Gus went out with an adult checking dams and left the bootprint well before the day of his disappearance.

 

[Underarrest_]

Why would he need to 'wander' to leave it?

Checking dams on rural properties is a regular thing, many dams are linked via pipelines to shift water to where its needed for livestock.
Its quite plausible Gus went out with an adult checking dams and left the bootprint well before the day of his disappearance.

This is why the boot print might be relevant. Where was the print found?Is there a logical explanation for it being that far away from the homestead at any time? Was there any other prints/tracks nearby? We don’t know.

 

[PenfoldsFan]

This is why the boot print might be relevant. Where was the print found?Is there a logical explanation for it being that far away from the homestead at any time? Was there any other prints/tracks nearby? We don’t know.

Id like to think SAPOL asked the Family when the last time Gus would have been at that location wearing his boots that they knew of.

 

[Underarrest_]

Id like to think SAPOL asked the Family when the last time Gus would have been at that location wearing his boots that they knew of.

Of course they probably did but it was the tracker who said it could have been there for a week and I think they’d be looking at the evidence to match anyone’s story.

 

[dc3]

It’s probably been ruled out because it’s an adult size ?

 

[Lady O]

Why would he need to 'wander' to leave it?

Checking dams on rural properties is a regular thing, many dams are linked via pipelines to shift water to where its needed for livestock.
Its quite plausible Gus went out with an adult checking dams and left the bootprint well before the day of his disappearance.

I doubt that a station of that size would have dam linked by pipeline! Maybe a little hobby farm, but not a real property in that area.

 

[PenfoldsFan]

I doubt that a station of that size would have dam linked by pipeline! Maybe a little hobby farm, but not a real property in that area.

My Wifes family had a big station a bit further north of there and the dams were linked by pipe which is why I mentioned it.

Edit, not just for moving it between dams either, can simply be piped to stock watering troughs to reduce animals muddying up the dams themselves.
Either way, pipes, pumps and water levels are regularly monitored and can explain why a boot print was found near one.

 

[winyhill]

My Wifes family had a big station a bit further north of there and the dams were linked by pipe which is why I mentioned it.

Plus the pipelines from dams to the trough network that need to checked constantly. Sheep can't survive in that country without reliable water.

 

[PenfoldsFan]

Plus the pipelines from dams to the trough network that need to checked constantly. Sheep can't survive in that country without reliable water.

Yep, edited and added that to my post.

 

[Underarrest_]

Maybe police asked the family if Gus would have been in that direction before to see what they said and then they’ve come out to the media and said the print could be a week old. The tracker was brought in because they found the boot print.

 

[Awakening]

I believe the police do monitor all the crime boards

No we don’t

 

[passball]

No we don’t

How rude

 

[31550]

No we don’t

 

[Lady O]

Anyone know what this is??

 

[Kurve]

Anyone know what this is??

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A sector antenna on a telecommunications tower?

 

[31550]

A sector antenna on a telecommunications tower?

I think it might just be a high-gain panel directional antenna. Often used to extend connectivity in isolated regions. Could be used for paging systems, mobile base stations and sometimes point to point comms.

Sector antennas are usually deployed in clusters to provide 360 degree coverage. Are there others like this nearby?

Either way (sector or panel) both these antennae support Emergency Comms including CFA, SES, also the Government radio network. They can also be used for cellular (LTE) backhaul. Possibly also used for remote monitoring of infrastructure (soil moisture, dams, weather stations) and the like.

Not sure why this antenna is relevant.

 

[Lady O]

I think it might just be a high-gain panel directional antenna. Often used to extend connectivity in isolated regions. Could be used for paging systems, mobile base stations and sometimes point to point comms.

Sector antennas are usually deployed in clusters to provide 360 degree coverage. Are there others like this nearby?

Either way (sector or panel) both these antennae support Emergency Comms including CFA, SES, also the Government radio network. They can also be used for cellular (LTE) backhaul. Possibly also used for remote monitoring of infrastructure (soil moisture, dams, weather stations) and the like.

Not sure why this antenna is relevant.

It's just someone reckoned there would be no phone, mobile or internet there. I was just looking at the tower, which looks like a Telstra voice, data, etc tower we have locally. Also there seems to be an aerial which might be for some kind of two way radio and a satellite dish on the roof. I'm not sure what the white round thing is on the top of the roof. Any ideas?

 

[31550]

It's just someone reckoned there would be no phone, mobile or internet there. I was just looking at the tower, which looks like a Telstra voice, data, etc tower we have locally. Also there seems to be an aerial which might be for some kind of two way radio and a satellite dish on the roof. I'm not sure what the white round thing is on the top of the roof. Any ideas?

From what I can see, the existing Telstra towers would not provide coverage to cell phones on the property, however it's possible that the property has a privately owned tower which could be used to extend/repeat the cellular network. And maybe this antenna in the picture is such a tower? Bit beyond my field of expertise though.

 

[KurtNeverDied]

I looked up the address a few days ago and it said it was connected to Telstra Sky Muster. Uses a white round satellite dish.