Current 4yo Boy Missing Yunta SA

[Percel]

Maybe it was.
Have seen someone missing that looks very similar to a person with the last name Lamont.
I have been studying photos of both men and I'm seeing what could be the same person.
It's late so I could be seeing double

Maybe it was.
Have seen someone missing that looks very similar to a person with the last name Lamont.
I have been studying photos of both men and I'm seeing what could be the same person.
It's late so I could be seeing double

I think you may be onto something though if your seeing similarities with the cousin

 

[CodyRose]

I think you may be onto something though if your seeing similarities with the cousin

Where can I find a photo? Been searching for ages! Is it behind a paywall?

 

[KurtNeverDied]

Where can I find a photo? Been searching for ages! Is it behind a paywall?

Now I'm searching missing people in S.A. Spill the beans people!

 

[CodyRose]

Now I'm searching missing people in S.A. Spill the beans people!

I had a look IMO - ears are different, no gap between the two middle teeth, eye color not the same.

 

[passball]

I had a look IMO - ears are different, no gap between the two middle teeth, eye color not the same.

What photos are you looking at?

 

[Percel]

I had a look IMO - ears are different, no gap between the two middle teeth, eye color not the same.

Did you find the cousin?

 

[31550]

Please don't repeat her name again in this thread in relation to the disappearance of Gus.

I come from the country, having 16 guns on the property, many likely passed down from generation to generation on a station that big, wouldn't be unusual.

Hmmmm. We've just seen in Bondi what this indifferent attitude to firearm ownership can result in. Of course there are many responsible firearm owners who have a legitimate use or reason for ownership of multiple firearms. But there needs to be checks and balances. We can't just rubber stamp ownership of multiple firearms because someone belongs to a gun club, or lives in a rural area. These owners need to regularly front up and show authorities that their firearms are stored safely and properly and that they are in fact being used only for their stated purpose. The purchase of hundreds (or thousands) of rounds of ammo should raise red flags. FFS these guys were on the radar of AFP for many years, as members of a group 'of interest'. But they were still allowed to own multiple firearms and obtain ammo? When was the last time they were paid a visit by authorities? When was the last audit of the gun club they belonged to? We've become complacent again.

 

[Jim Cricket]

Hmmmm. We've just seen in Bondi what this indifferent attitude to firearm ownership can result in. Of course there are many responsible firearm owners who have a legitimate use or reason for ownership of multiple firearms. But there needs to be checks and balances. We can't just rubber stamp ownership of multiple firearms because someone belongs to a gun club, or lives in a rural area. These owners need to regularly front up and show authorities that their firearms are stored safely and properly and that they are in fact being used only for their stated purpose. The purchase of hundreds (or thousands) of rounds of ammo should raise red flags. FFS these guys were on the radar of AFP for many years, as members of a group 'of interest'. But they were still allowed to own multiple firearms and obtain ammo? When was the last time they were paid a visit by authorities? When was the last audit of the gun club they belonged to? We've become complacent again.

ONE of them was on police radar and didn't own any guns, the one not on police radar owned them and was licenced and the guns were owned legally, so what could police do? It's this type of misinformation that gets repeated until it becomes fact. I do agree that people should be allowed to own very limited quantities of guns and not several copies of the same gun or multiple guns for the same use. You can only fire one at a time and can reload when empty, so why the need for more than one of a kind? Also agree about ammo quantities. If you need a thousand rounds to kill a couple of animals you can't be a very good shot, which is dangerous in itself. The whole ownership system needs changing.

https://www.alannahandmadeline.org.au/news/bondi-terror-attack-what-went-wrong-with-australias-gun-laws

https://www.alannahandmadeline.org.au/news/australia-led-gun-reforms-after-port-arthur-bondi-attack-demands-we-do-it-again

 

[31550]

ONE of them was on police radar and didn't own any guns, the one not on police radar owned them and was licenced and the guns were owned legally, so what could police do? It's this type of misinformation that gets repeated until it becomes fact. I do agree that people should be allowed to own very limited quantities of guns and not several copies of the same gun or multiple guns for the same use. You can only fire one at a time and can reload when empty, so why the need for more than one of a kind? Also agree about ammo quantities. If you need a thousand rounds to kill a couple of animals you can't be a very good shot, which is dangerous in itself. The whole ownership system needs changing.

https://www.alannahandmadeline.org.au/news/bondi-terror-attack-what-went-wrong-with-australias-gun-laws

https://www.alannahandmadeline.org.au/news/australia-led-gun-reforms-after-port-arthur-bondi-attack-demands-we-do-it-again

That's a cop out IMO if you'll forgive the expression. Father and son. One in, both in. You can't properly 'surveill' one and not the other.
The one with the licence should still have been subject to regular checks. There were reportedly hundreds of rounds of ammo found at the scene. How did this happen? Is it legal to buy or hold such a large amount of ammo? Why are the guns and all this ammo in possession of the individual and not stored at the gun club or the venue where it is supposed to be used legally?

 

[Underarrest_]

Hmmmm. We've just seen in Bondi what this indifferent attitude to firearm ownership can result in. Of course there are many responsible firearm owners who have a legitimate use or reason for ownership of multiple firearms. But there needs to be checks and balances. We can't just rubber stamp ownership of multiple firearms because someone belongs to a gun club, or lives in a rural area. These owners need to regularly front up and show authorities that their firearms are stored safely and properly and that they are in fact being used only for their stated purpose. The purchase of hundreds (or thousands) of rounds of ammo should raise red flags. FFS these guys were on the radar of AFP for many years, as members of a group 'of interest'. But they were still allowed to own multiple firearms and obtain ammo? When was the last time they were paid a visit by authorities? When was the last audit of the gun club they belonged to? We've become complacent again.

The circumstances that this came up in the thread are not where the gun/property owner used guns in an inappropriate manner but where the gun/property owners had their guns securely locked away and became a victim of a home invasion.
What’s your thoughts on how to stop these sick perpetrators?
Not have any registered guns, have a secret gun safe, no ammunition allowed to be kept?

 

[31550]

The circumstances that this came up in the thread are not where the gun/property owner used guns in an inappropriate manner but where the gun/property owners had their guns securely locked away and became a victim of a home invasion.
What’s your thoughts on how to stop these sick perpetrators?
Not have any registered guns, have a secret gun safe, no ammunition allowed to be kept?

We are getting off topic.
But my view is that if you need a firearm for a specific purpose and you can demonstrate are a fit and proper person, then you should be allowed to own an appropriate registered firearm and an appropriate amount of ammo for that purpose, and for that purpose only.
My view is that 'sporting shooters' should only be allowed to own a limited number of suitable firearms and ammo. They should only carry or use one at a time unless there is a specific event which needs multiple firearms to be used.
My view is that 'collectors' should only be allowed to collect firearms which have been disabled, and should never have ammunition, unless they have a specific licence and qualifications and store these firearms under very strict conditions at specific locations only, and any movement or use of such firearms should be pre approved in writing by authorities.
All firearm owners should be subject to random and regular inspections to ensure legislation is being complied with. Any breach should result in immediate cancellation of licence and confiscation of firearms.
Any purchase of ammunition must be only by a person who holds an appropriate licence. Quantities of ammo should be restricted to reasonable amounts at any one time. All ammunition must be accounted for. Regular returns and reports of ammunition used must be provided. Excessive purchases or use should also lead to licence cancellation and firearm confiscation.
Regular interviews of licences should be conducted. Anyone who cannot demonstrate they are still a fit and proper owner, and still have a genuine purpose should have their licence revoked, and firearms confiscated.

 

[Curious Clues]

The Lamont family have indicated they will not give up hope — even as the festive season deepens the ache of his absence. The family’s only wish is for Gus to come home.

Does that suggest the Lamont family believe Gus was abducted?

Christmas without Gus as investigation continues into missing outback boy

The four-year-old has not been seen since September 27.

7news.com.au

 

[31550]

The Lamont family have indicated they will not give up hope — even as the festive season deepens the ache of his absence. The family’s only wish is for Gus to come home.

Does that suggest the Lamont family believe Gus was abducted?

Christmas without Gus as investigation continues into missing outback boy

The four-year-old has not been seen since September 27.

7news.com.au

It's an unattributed and undated quote. We don't know who said this or when. AFAIK there is no official formal public statement from any true family member. Only the comments from Bill Harbison made back when Gus disappeared.

 

[passball]

The Lamont family have indicated they will not give up hope — even as the festive season deepens the ache of his absence. The family’s only wish is for Gus to come home.

Does that suggest the Lamont family believe Gus was abducted?

Christmas without Gus as investigation continues into missing outback boy

The four-year-old has not been seen since September 27.

7news.com.au

It's an unattributed and undated quote. We don't know who said this or when. AFAIK there is no official formal public statement from any true family member. Only the comments from Bill Harbison made back when Gus disappeared.

If Bill made that statement recently then I'm sort of angry the family can't front the media themselves.
It's insulting for Gus that his own family remain silent and hidden.
I hope something has been happening with police in the background for Gus's sake.

In the article it says,

'Authorities stress there is no evidence of foul play but have not ruled it out.'

Is that the first time that has been said?
NOT RULED IT OUT

 

[dc3]

If Bill made that statement recently then I'm sort of angry the family can't front the media themselves.
It's insulting for Gus that his own family remain silent and hidden.
I hope something has been happening with police in the background for Gus's sake.

In the article it says,

'Authorities stress there is no evidence of foul play but have not ruled it out.'

Is that the first time that has been said?
NOT RULED IT OUT

I wonder what the process is for when the case is starting to go cold?

Pull back resources , update family only less frequently and pass over to different team ?

 

[Frank Bunn]

If Bill made that statement recently then I'm sort of angry the family can't front the media themselves.
It's insulting for Gus that his own family remain silent and hidden.
I hope something has been happening with police in the background for Gus's sake.

In the article it says,

'Authorities stress there is no evidence of foul play but have not ruled it out.'

Is that the first time that has been said?
NOT RULED IT OUT

After all the searches had been done and they hadn't found Gus the emphasis should have switched to possible foul play. Interview each family member about the day he was alleged to have disappeared. But this would depend on South Australia police force being competent.

 

[31550]

After all the searches had been done and they hadn't found Gus the emphasis should have switched to possible foul play. Interview each family member about the day he was alleged to have disappeared. But this would depend on South Australia police force being competent.

Police are not sworn to tell the truth in media conferences.
For strategic and tactical reasons, they may make statements which are known to be false.
For example, they may not want to release information as it may be prejudicial to a future trial.

Clearly the statement "no evidence of foul play" is false. Gus is missing. There is no trace of him despite extensive searches - this is clear evidence of foul play. Little boys don't disappear into thin air.

Therefore the statement, "we don't suspect foul play" may also be false. It would be highly unusual, even foolish for them to say, "we have categorically ruled it out".

They don't want everything out in the public domain. It doesn't help their investigation or their (possible) case.

 

[CodyRose]

What photos are you looking at?

ones on the sapol missing persons page

 

[CodyRose]

If Bill made that statement recently then I'm sort of angry the family can't front the media themselves.
It's insulting for Gus that his own family remain silent and hidden.
I hope something has been happening with police in the background for Gus's sake.

In the article it says,

'Authorities stress there is no evidence of foul play but have not ruled it out.'

Is that the first time that has been said?
NOT RULED IT OUT

Sounds like the authorities are inching towards are broadening of official view by using those words.

 

[CodyRose]

I wonder what the process is for when the case is starting to go cold?

Pull back resources , update family only less frequently and pass over to different team ?

Distance makes the case go cold quicker IMO. They should bring some detectives out of retirement to work on the case. Like in the TV program New Tricks.

 

[CodyRose]

After all the searches had been done and they hadn't found Gus the emphasis should have switched to possible foul play. Interview each family member about the day he was alleged to have disappeared. But this would depend on South Australia police force being competent.

But they would still get the same story. it's hard to dispute without input from others who were on the scene, of which there seem to be none. I would have a good look at close associates of the family, to get a sense of what life was like on the station around that time. Maybe the police don't have a budget for this.

 

[Frank Bunn]

But they would still get the same story. it's hard to dispute without input from others who were on the scene, of which there seem to be none. I would have a good look at close associates of the family, to get a sense of what life was like on the station around that time. Maybe the police don't have a budget for this.

The Lamont family members have no reason to turn down an interview, have a lawyer present or give 'no comment' answers. If asked to repeat their version of events in detail, without another family member being present, some discrepancies might arise. Experienced detectives would be able to sniff out if someone is lying.

 

[passball]

The Lamont family members have no reason to turn down an interview, have a lawyer present or give 'no comment' answers. If asked to repeat their version of events in detail, without another family member being present, some discrepancies might arise. Experienced detectives would be able to sniff out if someone is lying.

Is that what's happening?