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Fraser is a GIRL he is a bloody GIRL! he was so scared out there today it wasnt funny! and its disapointing cose he started the year off alright. but someone has to tell him that dominating against melbourne means nothing! they are in the race for the wooden spoon and if fraser wants make and play in finals he has to grow so balls!
we should put him in the ring with bryan and tell them to have a spaing session! maybe that will toughen him up a bit. and if it doesnt dont play him and trade him! cose we wont win a flag with him! he is to mentally and physicly soft!
once hill went down and ryder was left to ruck it out alone fraser just should of jumped straight into him with his knee and hurt him. or at least let him now that he was in for a very long and hard day! yes he might have given away a free kick but it would of set the standard for ryder for the day!
insted this pathetic exuse of a SENIOR footballer didnt even look interested out there and was walking for most of the match and he was dominated!
ABSOLUTLY PATHETIC FRASER! that was the worst game i have ever seen a seasoned football play! PATHETIC!



P.S someone should print this thread off and send it into the lexus center for fraser to read.
but then again he might cry and complain that everyone is picking on him. bloody pathetic girl!
 
I am bemused by all this.

Sure, Josh wasn't great today.

However, if he was the difference between Essendon beating us in the last 5 mins of footy, in a game which should have been stitched up, despite us playing poorly all day and brain fades from experienced players such as Lockyer (kicking it in long from a kick-in with 30 sec on the clock), I was watching a different game.

That match was lost at selection.

Josh has been rucking 100% of games for 1 month on his OWN! L. Brown is rubbish back-up and when the heat is on, he was founded out. Cannot believe we picked him up.

MM doesn't want to "gift" Wood or Bryan games, however he fails to realise that eventually 1 ruck show will become vulnerable and tired. It was shown today with Josh barely being able to jump in the centre bounces. The buck stops with the coach. You cannot expect ruckmen to go at it consistently for 22 games + finals (if you get there) solo. No other team in the competition plays with the 1 ruckman or at least without adequate assistance.

Far too top heavy today.

Rocca is borderline finished. I think he too is being selfish in wanting to play on. Needs to realise his time is nearing and give some of our other young forwards the opportunity. He is becoming a liability.

Oh, and the game plan or lack-of.....I'll leave it that.
 

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You don't? WATCH TODAYS REPLAY AGAIN! the guy is not a ruckman's a-hole, he was beaten by a fill in half back flanker who at one stage was laughing at Josh.

Obviously you don't watch much in general , sure ..he had an off day, pathetic in fact, by the time i wrote the previous post it was what ?? half time ? ... and he was to get even worse by the end of the game !

BUT ... your gonna look at one bad game are you ? Today was very un Josh like in terms of overall effort not just ruckwork... but in every single area.

When Josh is'nt playing i usually begin to worry a little in many area's , that's how much i think he needs to be a part of the Pies.

Why i still feel i have to post these stupid Justified post's to promote the fact that a certain player is good enough is beyond me, it's like trying to convince an idiot that LAVA ... is indeed Quite hot !

Can't people think in some form of depth ?
 
Obviously you don't watch much in general , sure ..he had an off day, pathetic in fact, by the time i wrote the previous post it was what ?? half time ? ... and he was to get even worse by the end of the game !

BUT ... your gonna look at one bad game are you ? Today was very un Josh like in terms of overall effort not just ruckwork... but in every single area.

When Josh is'nt playing i usually begin to worry a little in many area's , that's how much i think he needs to be a part of the Pies.

Why i still feel i have to post these stupid Justified post's to promote the fact that a certain player is good enough is beyond me, it's like trying to convince an idiot that LAVA ... is indeed Quite hot !

Can't people think in some form of depth ?

The major thing that pisses me off is his lack of intensity.
It happens all the time when he takes the skippership and we all seem to play the same.

He was beaten by a kid who doesn't play in the ruck and who is smaller body size & height wise. The fact is Josh just doesn't give Collingwood enough over the season. He'll play 4 great games, 2 good games but the rest are pretty much crap. And the club is always quick to pass the blame
 
Poor showing today from the big fella after a month of really good footy. He looked really tired and could hardly get off the ground at the centre bounces. Ryder just kept jumping over the top of him.

Although what can we expect when you are carrying the ruckload week in week out.

Finally someone is talking sense. Its MM fault he is the way he is Malthouse has never helped him out the whole time he has been at the club
 
If he was a horse he definitely would have got taken out to the back field after that excuse for a game for football today.
 
This time last week he was a star, today he was shit.

How about some perspective?

Sooner or later we were going to get burnt by playing a lone ruckmen, ironically this occurred against a side that lost it's only ruck in the first few minutes, then proceeded to get pantsed by a talented young KPP who is a stop gap ruck at best, but we were bound to be exposed at some point.

He was probably leading the Copeland before today and in career best form, but everyone is entitled to a shit game - just seems much worse because of everything else that went wrong today.

Memo to the coach - we will never achieve anything as a football club playing one ruckman, start getting some games into Wood or some other support act or we're doomed to more years in the wilderness.
 
Josh was let down by MM and the selection panel.

For 3 weeks he has worked his arse off, to the point where in the 2nd half today, he just couldnt go.

We were lucky that Hille went down early, we wouldve been smashed by 8 goals if he played on, double teaming Josh.

Wake up MM and the selection committee, it's time for Bryan and Wood, or it's time to piss off.

Other selection blunders this week include;

* No wellingham or Corrie to defend Lovett, Lovett Murray, Davey etc
* McCaffer and Rocca played, both shouldnt have.

Next week we are up against 3 ruckmen, Hale, Petrie and McIntosh, if Wood or Bryan dont play, it will be a ^%$#ing disgrace.
 
Couldn't agree more, the selection panel totally blundered this one. Josh couldn't jump from the start, he looked burn't (well, as did the rest of the team). The panel is killing him, and on ANZAC day we paid for it.

Of course, next week they'll rectify it, but it didn't take much foresight to see this was going to happen by playing 1 ruckmen, especially if they were so concerned pre-match about fatigue from the previous week. Ridiculous amateurish blundering from the coaching panel, match committee, and fitness staff.

Let's not also forget how they've burn't Cloke from over playing him in the pre-season.
 

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