AA Starting 6 Defenders

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If Max conceeded only 8 possessions and 2 goals to any forward in the league I would be bloody happy with that performance and consider it a win, the fact that it was Buddy just makes Max's victory clearer. You are joking if you think that that isn't beating a forward. And btw there was only 1 more ball directed to Buddy in the second half than the first, so there goes your supply theory. It was the supply to Williams and Roughead that dried up in the second, whilst Buddy became the sole focal point.

My point about the supply isn't the quantity it's about the quality - it came in much more slowly and gave the st kilda ruckmen and every other bloke time to drop in front. Not to mention the pressure the saints midfielders put on the kicker after half time.

9 possessions for the match, that is a beating every day of the week. And as I said above supply to Buddy actually dropped of very little in the 2nd half.

Fevola's AVERAGE disposal count is 11. Are you saying that he regularly cops a beating? I mean, against melbourne he had 9 disposals for 7 goals. Is that considered a beating?

That is not a bias stat, do you understand what goals conceeded means? One of Buddy's 3 goals was from a (incredibly soft I might add) free kick against Gilbert, hence Buddy only kicked 2 goals on Max.

It's an extremely biased stat because the 8.2 statistic you pulled is from buddy getting goals in all manner of ways, whereas for the Max comparison you only count ones that you think deserve to be tagged against Maxy, hence exagerrating the difference that Max made on the night. So yes, extremely biased, and the fact you don't realise that makes you even more biased and less credible.

How is that a bad strike rate for a backman? If you offered a backman a 60% strike rate against buddy he would take it every day of the week. And you neglect to mention that that was in the air, on the ground I didn't bother counting because Buddy touched it so few times.

It's a bad strike rate because a forward can have 9 shots on goal from 15 contests at that rate. Can you imagine thinking that conceeding 9 shots is a great strike rate? Ridiculous.

Max got help from his backmen, but even pure one on one was won more times by Max despite Buddy's huge size advantage. And you have to take into account how may times it was one on one. Most backmen, for example our poll leader here Scarlett, struggle to keep up with Buddy on the lead never mind beat him one on one. Max did both.

Again with the "max did well considering it's buddy". Geezus, if we put Luke Ball on him and Buddy kicks 13 goals will we call it a win to Ball because of the height difference? BEATING your opponent means doing better than them, without these handicap rules you keep pulling out.

If beating Lance Franklin 11 times out of a possible 18 one on one contests, and conceeding just 8 possessions (whilst picking up 11 himself) and 2 goals to him is not beating him than what the hell is? Max could keep him to 0 touches and you'd still be here blaming 'supply' and saying it's not a victory to the backman. Give Max some credit and admit that he beat Buddy, plenty of other Hawks fans had no problem in doing so after the match, why do you?

His possession count has gone down since the last time you posted? Max just keeps getting better and better, doesn't he?
Max did better than most but didn't win.

Saints fans severly overrate hudgeton.

 

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And now we're chatting about buddy.

Anyhoo, I think Harley will make it, and possibly Captain as well. But, I guess we'll see.

This will sound like a troll but I don't agree with the Harley inclusion because he's not often made accountable by the opposition. He's left free to play a loose man chopping off leads. He does this as well as anyone in the league but I don't consider that worthy of an AA selection.

 

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This will sound like a troll but I don't agree with the Harley inclusion because he's not often made accountable by the opposition. He's left free to play a loose man chopping off leads. He does this as well as anyone in the league but I don't consider that worthy of an AA selection.

Doesn't sound like a troll at all. Just a good way to look at it. Either He isn't AA because he isn't made accountable, but that could be good as well, as he has been very successful this year in making that decision to leave his man and cut off the attack.