AFC's youngsters

[Douglas26]

Players must be 23 or under:

Midfielders

Richard Douglas
Jason Porplyzia
Darren Pfeiffer
David Mackay
Nathan van Berlo
Brent Reilly
Scott Thompson
Bryce Campbell
Chris Knights

Defenders

Ben Rutten
John Hinge
Luke Jericho (wait and see next year, his run off half back...)
Graham Johncock

Forwards

James Sellar
Nathan Bock
Kurt Tippett
Bernie Vince

Rucks

John Meesen
Ivan Maric
Jonothan Griffin

With Hart's delisting our average age has practically halved and we have several impressive young players on our list. When I look through that list I can't really say that any of them are duds as such (Jericho on past performances, Griffin and Hinge need to improve though).

We also have several players in the 24 - 27 age bracket:

Scott Stevens
Nick Gill
Ken McGregor
Ben Hudson
Trent Hentschel
Marty Mattner
Matthew Bode
Robert Shirley

Roo has 1 or 2 years left.
Goody has 2 years.
Edwards 2 years.
McLeod 2 + years.
Bassett 2 years.
Burton 2 + years (he is super fit)

By the time these guys hang up the boots, our young midfielders will be ready to fill the void.

Bring on 2007 and I must say even though some interstate posters are majorly ignorant towards our young players, we have some gems!

 

[CaptainDangerfield]

I bet supporters from other clubs have done exactly the same type of list.

 

[Vader]

Our average age has dropped by 0.67 years (243 days).

With Clarke, Hart, Gibson, Skipworth and Obst on the list our average age (as of today) would have been 25.11 (25 years, 39 days).

With those players delisted and Sellar, Tippett, MacKay, Gill and Campbell added our average age (as of today) is 24.44 (24 years 160 days).

We've delisted the two oldest players on our list, but Gibson and Obst were both still under 20. Of the players we've gained, Gill is 24 and Campbell 22.

I would be mildly surprised if ANY other club fields a list with an average age over 24 (the average is usually around 23.5). Maybe Fremantle, considering they didn't delist any veterans and added only three teenagers to their list.

Make no bones about it, we still have a very old list. That being said, we have far more (and better) young talent than we did before Neil Craig took the reigns three drafts ago.

 

[KUNG FU]

Forwards before the Draft:
Nathan Bock, Bernie Vince

Forwards after the Draft:
James Sellar, Nathan Bock, Kurt Tippett, Bernie Vince

 

[mymansyd]

With those players delisted and Sellar, Tippett, MacKay, Gill and Campbell added our average age (as of today) is 24.44 (24 years 160 days).

We've delisted the two oldest players on our list, but Gibson and Obst were both still under 20. Of the players we've gained, Gill is 24 and Campbell 22.

I would be mildly surprised if ANY other club fields a list with an average age over 24 (the average is usually around 23.5). Maybe Fremantle, considering they didn't delist any veterans and added only three teenagers to their list.

Make no bones about it, we still have a very old list. That being said, we have far more (and better) young talent than we did before Neil Craig took the reigns three drafts ago.

According to my Stats...the average team ages, as at today, are as follows:

Club AgeAvg CarGms Players
Adel 23.93 3090 40
Frem 23.75 3364 40
StK 23.65 2972 37
Melb 23.53 3227 40
Syd 23.29 3119 38
WB 23.23 3197 40
Ess 23.03 3028 39
Coll 22.79 2987 39
Nth 22.78 2687 40
Geel 22.59 2410 39
WC 22.55 2736 38
Rich 22.33 2437 39
Port 22.28 2163 39
Bris 22.15 2334 39
Carl 21.95 2209 37
Haw 21.92 2105 39

These are the birthdates I have for Crows players...

Player
Bassett, Nathan 07-Dec-76
Biglands, Rhett 04-Sep-77
Bock, Nathan 20-Mar-83
Bode, Matthew 29-Jun-79
Burton, Brett 04-May-78
Campbell, Bryce 07-Sep-84
Doughty, Michael 05-Aug-79
Douglas, Richard 06-Feb-87
Edwards, Tyson 06-Aug-76
Gill, Nick 25-Aug-82
Goodwin, Simon 26-Dec-76
Griffin, Jonathon 14-Jan-86
Hentschel, Trent 25-Dec-82
Hinge, John 06-Jun-86
Hudson, Benjamin 24-Feb-79
Jericho, Luke 18-Oct-84
Johncock, Graham 21-Oct-82
Knights, Chris 25-Sep-86
MacKay, David 25-Jul-88
Maric, Ivan 04-Jan-86
Massie, Kris 30-May-80
Mattner, Martin 06-Aug-82
McGregor, Ken 29-Jan-81
McLeod, Andrew 04-Aug-76
Meesen, John 20-Jun-86
Perrie, Ian 19-Apr-79
Pfeiffer, Darren 28-Sep-87
Porplyzia, Jason 27-Nov-84
Reilly, Brent 12-Nov-83
Ricciuto, Mark 08-Jun-75
Rutten, Ben 28-May-83
Sellar, James 24-Mar-89
Shirley, Robert 09-Jun-80
Stevens, Scott 15-Jan-82
Thompson, Scott 14-Mar-83
Tippett, Kurt 08-May-87
Torney, Jason 16-Jun-77
Van Berlo, Nathan 06-Jun-86
Vince, Bernie 02-Oct-85
Welsh, Scott 01-Dec-78

 

[ShearMagic9]

Future has gotta be lookin up. There are some quality names on that youngster list

 

[GoSarge]

According to my Stats...the average team ages, as at today, are as follows:

Club AgeAvg CarGms Players
Adel 23.93 3090 40
Frem 23.75 3364 40

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Carl 21.95 2209 37
Haw 21.92 2105 39

These are the birthdates I have for Crows players...

Player
Bassett, Nathan 07-Dec-76
Biglands, Rhett 04-Sep-77
Bock, Nathan 20-Mar-83
Bode, Matthew 29-Jun-79
Burton, Brett 04-May-78
Campbell, Bryce 07-Sep-84
Doughty, Michael 05-Aug-79
Douglas, Richard 06-Feb-87
Edwards, Tyson 06-Aug-76
Gill, Nick 25-Aug-82
Goodwin, Simon 26-Dec-76
Griffin, Jonathon 14-Jan-86
Hentschel, Trent 25-Dec-82
Hinge, John 06-Jun-86
Hudson, Benjamin 24-Feb-79
Jericho, Luke 18-Oct-84
Johncock, Graham 21-Oct-82
Knights, Chris 25-Sep-86
MacKay, David 25-Jul-88
Maric, Ivan 04-Jan-86
Massie, Kris 30-May-80
Mattner, Martin 06-Aug-82
McGregor, Ken 29-Jan-81
McLeod, Andrew 04-Aug-76
Meesen, John 20-Jun-86
Perrie, Ian 19-Apr-79
Pfeiffer, Darren 28-Sep-87
Porplyzia, Jason 27-Nov-84
Reilly, Brent 12-Nov-83
Ricciuto, Mark 08-Jun-75
Rutten, Ben 28-May-83
Sellar, James 24-Mar-89
Shirley, Robert 09-Jun-80
Stevens, Scott 15-Jan-82
Thompson, Scott 14-Mar-83
Tippett, Kurt 08-May-87
Torney, Jason 16-Jun-77
Van Berlo, Nathan 06-Jun-86
Vince, Bernie 02-Oct-85
Welsh, Scott 01-Dec-78

Not sure I know what all this means. So Carlton will be playing Hawthorn next year in the grand final ? Or will they make the finals the next couple of years because their squad is young ? Are Freo and Adelaide doomed from next year because we have an old list ?

Please explain.

 

[Vader]

According to my Stats...the average team ages, as at today, are as follows:

Club AgeAvg CarGms Players
Adel 23.93 3090 40

I don't want to get into a "your stats are wrong, mine are right" argument, but I'd be curious to know how you arrived at the average age of 23.93. The average by my calculations is currently 24.44 - almost exactly half a year greater than your figure (or a cumulative difference of 20 years, so it's not insignificant).

I've gone through the list of birth dates you provided, comparing them with mine. I found three discrepancies, each of which I then checked on the afc website.

I had Knights birth date out by one month (25/10/86 vs the correct date of 25/9/86). You are incorrect on both Perrie and Welsh. Perrie was born on the 9th, not the 19th. Welsh was born on the 7th, not the 1st.

None of these three errors are significant enough to shift the average by anywhere near 0.5.

I have done up an excel spreadsheet which calculates their ages automatically (given the birth dates) and hence calculates the averages. PM me your email address and I'll pass it on to you.

FWIW, I agree with your total of 3090 games experience on our list.

 

[Jars458]

This just shows we have a very good blend on our list.

The guys in the last two years of their careers are all still playing excellent football

If we can overcome our West Coast hodooo (through more options in the middle) then we are a genuine shot at a flag again.

Craigy Alan Stewart et all inspire confidence that are youngsters can develop sufficiently over the next three years to fill the void left by our senior players as they gradually retire.

Having said that, guys like Roo and McLeod come along very rarely.

 

[raikkonen]

So how would people rateh them at this stage of the season. Given the amount of injuries to first choice players, Id say they are doing quite well. Loving the Griff.