Recruiting AFL Draft Watch 2025 - Picks 9, 10, 13, 37

[Lore]

 

[faible]

Twomey's proper phantom draft that's due Monday is usually pretty accurate, he has a lot of club info by the time he writes that up.

His power rankings are AFAIK just his view on the individual players.

The two things aren't the same.

 

[Keystone agony]

Scores to support would be hard to find and validate my view.
I see a lot more outside run based off the back of all the previous rule changes - much like you do.
The future changes next year will make for even less stoppages/congestion.
The AFL dont want head knocks etc.

I think the best bet is to use top picks on outside predominant players that are efficient on the inside, instead of the other way around.

Yeh spot on

I think scores from stoppage may well be a fair bit less than 40% tbh

 

[Keystone agony]

He actually went 50/50 split this year as far as contested / uncontested.
You still have to win the footy inside to be able to run it on the outside.

Or win it in turnover/intercept

 

[fl4gd0n5]

got anything to back up the 'I like Cal but' statement? Or is it one of those 'I'm not a racist but' type comments?

Perhaps I should’ve written - I like Cal, he could be withholding information etc.

I’ve met Cal and Riley a few times. Really nice people.

 

[Keystone agony]

If tigers are hell bent on Grlj then youd think theyre trading back with dees pick 7

7+F1(Suns)
For
4 + F2/F3

Just no mention of it so far, so youd think unlikely, maybe tigers arent taking Grlj

Youd think they may offer F1 or F2+38 for him at blues pick 9 or 11

 

[Red Black and Blue]

If tigers are hell bent on Grlj then youd think theyre trading back with dees pick 7

7+F1(Suns)
For
4 + F2/F3

Just no mention of it so far, so youd think unlikely, maybe tigers arent taking Grlj

Youd think they may offer F1 or F2+38 for him at blues pick 9 or 11

Bruv. Dees are not doing that.

 

[Keystone agony]

Bruv. Dees are not doing that.

Why not?

 

[Seagrave_Holmes]

A Collingwood supporter just posted in the draft rumours thread that the GM of Football at Richmond is in Mildura meeting Cumming today.

Cumming and Taylor to the Tigers, means we get Sharp and Robey. I can't see why Richmond take Robey and Cumming.

 

[Red Black and Blue]

Why not?

An F1 in a stronger draft. Even if it is the suns, pick 16-18 next year might be worth pick 4 here. The talent they'll get at pick 7 here is comparable to the talent at 4.

 

[Dons4days]

A Collingwood supporter just posted in the draft rumours thread that the GM of Football at Richmond is in Mildura meeting Cumming today.

Cumming and Taylor to the Tigers, means we get Sharp and Robey. I can't see why Richmond take Robey and Cumming.

Don't know why but I just see Cumming as very Richmond player. This would be almost best case scenario for us. Would be curious to see if we would double down on Mids and take Sharp or go another direction.

 

[jctrout]

Perhaps I should’ve written - I like Cal, he could be withholding information etc.

I’ve met Cal and Riley a few times. Really nice people.

Yeah that’s social media for you, never let the keyboard take you out of context . All good

 

[Skipper_]

We can’t really lose here.

We are guaranteed two of Sharp/Robey/Cumming/Taylor and I would honestly be happy with any combination.

 

[Keystone agony]

An F1 in a stronger draft. Even if it is the suns, pick 16-18 next year might be worth pick 4 here. The talent they'll get at pick 7 here is comparable to the talent at 4.

4 would get them Robey here in this example. How far ahead of a Cumming or Farrow they have him, im not sure

Theyre probably getting pick 20 in return with tigers F2

Id say Robey is going before pick 16 in next years draft

 

[King Patty]

Robey, Sharp and trade up for suns 15 or Blues 9/11
plus see where academy bids come.

 

[JayJ20]

Only Richmond stand between us and our next big hope.

****ing do something nice for giving you Dimma Richmond.

 

[Keystone agony]

I hope we had a hidden mic on kako

 

[Red Black and Blue]

4 would get them Robey here in this example. How far ahead of a Cumming or Farrow they have him, im not sure

Theyre probably getting pick 20 in return with tigers F2

Id say Robey is going before pick 16 in next years draft

Maybe but I don't think Robey is that much more exciting a prospect than Cumming or even Grlj himself. I don't think it's Caddy situation where the alternative is much worse off for the build, that requires them to give up extra.

 

[JDavey]

Robey/Taylor without having to trade would be a fever dream. Sign me up

 

[Keystone agony]

Maybe but I don't think Robey is that much more exciting a prospect than Cumming or even Grlj himself. I don't think it's Caddy situation where the alternative is much worse off for the build, that requires them to give up extra.

Grlj isnt really being linked with them

I guess im coming from the proviso they do, otherwise why would they trade for him

I personally think hes well ahead of cumming

 

[JayJ20]

Robey/Taylor without having to trade would be a fever dream. Sign me up

I think that would be the best case scenario for our list, although I do like a Robey/Sharp combo.

As far as list needs go, I'd rate my preference as follows:

Robey
Taylor
Cumming-Sharp

I highly doubt we walk away with Robey and Taylor though. Maybe one but not both.

 

[Red Black and Blue]

Grlj isnt really being linked with them

I guess im coming from the proviso they do, otherwise why would they trade for him

I personally think hes well ahead of cumming

Why is he ahead of Cumming? Because his contested/clearance work is way worse. Had some nice goals in the finals too but almost exclusively simple lead up stuff with a lot of space to work with or joe the goose stuff. It's nice stuff but not exactly salivating. He has a lot of potential based on his frame and atheletism, but he is a far rawer prospect than people are acting. There's a reason West Coast haven't pivoted from a 200cm ruckman to him.

 

[Keystone agony]

Im taking 1 of Robey/Sharp (Robey pref)

Then order

Grlj
Farrow
D.Sharp
O.Taylor
Cumming

 

[Keystone agony]

Why is he ahead of Cumming? Because his contested/clearance work is way worse. Had some nice goals in the finals too but almost exclusively simple lead up stuff with a lot of space to work with or joe the goose stuff. It's nice stuff but not exactly salivating. He has a lot of potential based on his frame and atheletism, but he is a far rawer prospect than people are acting. There's a reason West Coast haven't pivoted from a 200cm ruckman to him.

Robey far greater ceiling. Better kick, size, suited specific role*, scoreboard impact. I also have him better in clearance/contest work aswell but we obviously disagree there

* My worry is Cummings kicking and being stuck in between a big inside mid and a Naicos, Zerrett type whos smaller but has that running power/kicking

There arent may gun mids at 183 or smaller now

Rowell, Naicos, WAshcroft, Serong, Zerrett, Butters, Neale, Caldwell is about it for the best 40 inside mids in the comp now

Rowells a brute
Naicos ridiculous kicking/running
Zac Merrett kick elite
Butters is just different and a very good kick aswell

Can he be Caleb Serong/Caldwell? Is the question when regarding type

Im not saying im right ive struggled to watch enough compared to say yaself and have chopped snd changed a bit as ive watched more. All i know is nothing really grabs super entices me with guys like Farrow or Cumming

 

[Red Black and Blue]

Robey far greater ceiling. Better kick, size, suited specific role*, scoreboard impact. I also have him better in clearance/contest work aswell but we obviously disagree there

* My worry is Cummings kicking and being stuck in between a big inside mid and a Naicos, Zerrett type whos smaller but has that running power/kicking

There arent may gun mids at 183 or smaller now

Rowell, Naicos, WAshcroft, Serong, Zerrett, Butters, Neale is about it for the best 40 inside mids in the comp now

Rowells a brute
Naicos ridiculous kicking/running
Zac Merrett kick elite
Butters is just different and a very good kick aswell

Can he be Caleb Serong? Is the question when regarding type

He's at least 184cm as listed by Twomey, SANFL where he played has him at 186cm. In this range or lower you have Daicos, Butters, Rowell, JHF, McCluggage, Warner, Heeney, Gulden, Smith, Serong, Bailey. Which is like 3 quarters of the All australian mids over the last two seasons.

He's clearly a better clearance player than Robey, who can be slow in possession and has less clean hands. Kicking is fine, it's not like Robey is creative or incisive with his disposal, most of his gains come through his running.

 

[ydc55]

What are those flaws?

Sullivan lacks a bit of sideways movement in games for mine.
His short kicking is a bit iffy.
He has been stronger than his peers. A test for him will be coming up against big bodies.
I like Sullivan a fair bit though.
More than happy to see him at the bombers