Research Alex (Alec) Joker Hall Melbourne Coach 1911????

[kick it to tim]

Hi there


I have been doing some research into the career of Alex (Alec) Joker Hall, and I believe I have found evidence he was the Melbourne coach in 1911.

Supermercado if I am going over old ground, I apologize!

Now I have had a good look on Demonwiki (http://demonwiki.org/Alex+Hall) and it states at the bottom that “Some sources list him as having coached Melbourne in 1911, and show him with the name Alec. He is also shown in most contemporary sources as a coach in 1914, but Football Records and newspapers from the time show that he was coach of Williamstown that year and that Len Incigneri coached the side.”


So what we do know is that Joker coached the demons in 1908 and 1909, he was at Richmond in 1910, but then left Richmond (not sure why Rhett do you have access to the minutes or any reasons why he may have left Richmond at the end of 1910?) He then coached Melbourne again from 1912-1913. Melbourne’s honor board has 1911 blank, (their official history on their websites states Alex Hall returned in 1912 https://www.melbournefc.com.au/history/year-by-year)



The articles I have come across talk about the MCC looking for a coach, then I have Articles from April – July that refer to him as coach. The Punch from April 27 1911, states that “All last year’s team and an old coach (Alex Hall) are available at Melbourne. “


1911 Alex (Alec) Joker Hall references.

March 11 MCC put out an application for coach https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/10885434

March 18 – RFC decide to appoint no coach https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/255870457

April 21 – Engaged as coach https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/242213398

April 27 - https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/175612181

April 27 – More reference here - https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/175612181

May 12 – Richmond Appoints coach

Coach in June 9 - https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/242228163

Coach in July 21 - https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/242841035


offer to coach Carlton in finals 1911 - https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/242842192


1912 – The Herald reports that it’s the same old coach for Melbourne https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/241503816




Also a sidenote, I notice that Boyles also records him as having coached from 1911-193 at Melbourne https://www.boylesfootballphotos.net.au/Alec+Hall



How do we go about getting this officially recognized and adding his name onto the 1911 space on the honour board?

 

[Hartwell FC]

Hi there


I have been doing some research into the career of Alex (Alec) Joker Hall, and I believe I have found evidence he was the Melbourne coach in 1911.

Supermercado if I am going over old ground, I apologize!

Now I have had a good look on Demonwiki (http://demonwiki.org/Alex+Hall) and it states at the bottom that “Some sources list him as having coached Melbourne in 1911, and show him with the name Alec. He is also shown in most contemporary sources as a coach in 1914, but Football Records and newspapers from the time show that he was coach of Williamstown that year and that Len Incigneri coached the side.”


So what we do know is that Joker coached the demons in 1908 and 1909, he was at Richmond in 1910, but then left Richmond (not sure why Rhett do you have access to the minutes or any reasons why he may have left Richmond at the end of 1910?) He then coached Melbourne again from 1912-1913. Melbourne’s honor board has 1911 blank, (their official history on their websites states Alex Hall returned in 1912 https://www.melbournefc.com.au/history/year-by-year)



The articles I have come across talk about the MCC looking for a coach, then I have Articles from April – July that refer to him as coach. The Punch from April 27 1911, states that “All last year’s team and an old coach (Alex Hall) are available at Melbourne. “


1911 Alex (Alec) Joker Hall references.

March 11 MCC put out an application for coach https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/10885434

March 18 – RFC decide to appoint no coach https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/255870457

April 21 – Engaged as coach https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/242213398

April 27 - https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/175612181

April 27 – More reference here - https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/175612181

May 12 – Richmond Appoints coach

Coach in June 9 - https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/242228163

Coach in July 21 - https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/242841035


offer to coach Carlton in finals 1911 - https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/242842192


1912 – The Herald reports that it’s the same old coach for Melbourne https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/241503816




Also a sidenote, I notice that Boyles also records him as having coached from 1911-193 at Melbourne https://www.boylesfootballphotos.net.au/Alec+Hall



How do we go about getting this officially recognized and adding his name onto the 1911 space on the honour board?

Hi there, I too have researched Joker Hall, I cannot find any trace of him coaching in 1911, and that a Carlton coaching position fell through.