Andrew Fagan

[Thetrader15]

Fair go. We did get Gibbs.

it was "almost" the right year to get him as well

 

[jackster83]

Even when you get a response back it's not from him, it's from the PR department with his signature.

Or at least I really HOPE it's the PR department or his personal assitant.

If our CEO has nothing better to do than respond to random supporter emails then we are well and truly f’ed. Because he clearly isn't actually doing the job of being a CEO in that case.

I think we now know why Chappy was spending so many hours at the club.

I didn't think we could get a worse leader than Trigg, but here we are.

 

[Vhaluus]

it was "almost" the right year to get him as well

There was never a right year for that, other than arguably his free agent year if the price was right and he was willing (he wasn't)

 

[1970crow]

I have been a Crows member for a long time. I'm very level headed and don't go off based on emotion (well not too much) and in my correspondence with the club am always professional.

I have sent Fagan two emails. The first was mid 2018. Fagan responded, we spoke on the phone and discussed. All I will say now is that everything I said and suggested was proven correct.
In August 2019 I also emailed Fagan. I raised some concerns over club administration and club culture. Fagan again responded.

Yesterday I thought about emailing the club to express my concerns over the inexperience and ineptitude of our football department - in particular surrounding list management and negotiations. So I went back and read Fagan's last response to me.
The following statements from his response stood out;
"considerable internal awareness"
"My experience together with the vast experience around me, together with metrics right across the Club clearly demonstrate that a lot of things are done exceptionally well"

I didn't bother sending another email. Those statements tell me the club is absolutely deluded. They genuinely believe they are at the top of their game, despite all external evidence suggesting otherwise.

Congratulations Crows, you have broken me. I don't care enough anymore to invest time and energy on you. I have zero faith you can turn anything around, or that you even think there needs to be anything turned around.
I'm done.

At a minimum, when you've punched out a sentence with 2 'together' in it, it shouldn't take too long to switch one to 'combined' and if that's beyond you, use the thesaurus.

 

[1970crow]

Even when you get a response back it's not from him, it's from the PR department with his signature.

Or at least I really HOPE it's the PR department or his personal assitant.

If our CEO has nothing better to do than respond to random supporter emails then we are well and truly f’ed. Because he clearly isn't actually doing the job of being a CEO in that case.

Or maybe we know what Chappy spends his 40 hours on now.

 

[DJ75]

Even when you get a response back it's not from him, it's from the PR department with his signature.

Or at least I really HOPE it's the PR department or his personal assitant.

If our CEO has nothing better to do than respond to random supporter emails then we are well and truly f’ed. Because he clearly isn't actually doing the job of being a CEO in that case.

I can be 100% confident that both responses came directly from him.

 

[Vhaluus]

I can be 100% confident that both responses came directly from him.

Really not a good thing, is it?

 

[DJ75]

Really not a good thing, is it?

I have mixed feelings about it.
On one hand it is good that he is willing to engage members. I know that he will respond to people who are respectful and intelligent in their emails - but will ignore the raving loonie messages.
On the other hand, does he have time to do that?

I guess if he never responded to anyone, we would be claiming he's stuck in an ivory tower and has no idea about what the average punter thinks.

 

[MRB37]

I have mixed feelings about it.
On one hand it is good that he is willing to engage members. I know that he will respond to people who are respectful and intelligent in their emails - but will ignore the raving loonie messages.
On the other hand, does he have time to do that?

I guess if he never responded to anyone, we would be claiming he's stuck in an ivory tower and has no idea about what the average punter thinks.

I dunno, both times he's responded to me it's been at 8-9 at night, so I'd assume he was doing that in his own time.

 

[1970crow]

Even when you get a response back it's not from him, it's from the PR department with his signature.

Or at least I really HOPE it's the PR department or his personal assitant.

If our CEO has nothing better to do than respond to random supporter emails then we are well and truly f’ed. Because he clearly isn't actually doing the job of being a CEO in that case.

It is technically a 'club', so responding to members is actually something that is required. No different to the committee of a small sporting club responding to reasonable correspondence from members. Obviously it's a bit harder, but I would expect that there would be 4 broad categories of incoming correspondence that would be read at a level below Fagan or another appropriately authorised person on his behalf

1. No response - Aggressive, abusive, genuinely not worthy
2. Canned response - Reasonable, but not articulate or specific enough to demand a personal effort or sheer incoming volumes necessitate.
3. Fagan signature but not his words - more articulate and specific than 2, but no connection with the top office.
4. Fagan actual response - Past or present connection with the top office deemed important enough

 

[Vhaluus]

It is technically a 'club', so responding to members is actually something that is required. No different to the committee of a small sporting club responding to reasonable correspondence from members. Obviously it's a bit harder, but I would expect that there would be 4 broad categories of incoming correspondence that would be read at a level below Fagan or another appropriately authorised person on his behalf

1. No response - Aggressive, abusive, genuinely not worthy
2. Canned response - Reasonable, but not articulate or specific enough to demand a personal effort or sheer incoming volumes necessitate.
3. Fagan signature but not his words - more articulate and specific than 2, but no connection with the top office.
4. Fagan actual response - Past or present connection with the top office deemed important enough

I'd agree with all that. But lets face it, nearly all BF posters would get to level 3 at best.

No-one here has the clout or influence that they should qualify for 4 given the size of our organization. Unless we have a few board members for major sponsors here which I'm doubting.

Also I'll argue that technically we are NOT a club. We call ourselves a club but we aren't, we don't fit the definition.

We are a non profit organization pretending to be a club.

 

[1970crow]

I'd agree with all that. But lets face it, nearly all BF posters would get to level 3 at best.

No-one here has the clout or influence that they should qualify for 4 given the size of our organization. Unless we have a few board members for major sponsors here which I'm doubting.

Also I'll argue that technically we are NOT a club. We call ourselves a club but we aren't, we don't fit the definition.

We are a non profit organization pretending to be a club.

The pretending part is where we respond at all. Off the top of my head, I'd say Feenix, macca23 and Jen would get a genuine response from Fagan due to past interactions.

 

[jackster83]

 

[Alwaysacrow]

Seriously. Is there anyway that members can bounce this buffoon??? It absolutely has to be done.

 

[King Elvis]

The pretending part is where we respond at all. Off the top of my head, I'd say Feenix, macca23 and Jen would get a genuine response from Fagan due to past interactions.

I'm certain the email chain I had earlier this year was with him.

I dunno, both times he's responded to me it's been at 8-9 at night, so I'd assume he was doing that in his own time.

Probably just clearing the mechanism before bed

 

[jackster83]

Looking forward to this guy coming out of hiding in the next few days. He'll want to take the credit for our draft haul, as well as a mention about pre-season training and the upcoming AFLW season.

Doubt we'll hear about the five year plan though, nor anything about Smart leaving.

 

[1970crow]

Looking forward to this guy coming out of hiding in the next few days. He'll want to take the credit for our draft haul, as well as a mention about pre-season training and the upcoming AFLW season.

Doubt we'll hear about the five year plan though, nor anything about Smart leaving.

The lack of disclosure about the Smart departure is interesting. Esports such a huge part of our financial strategy and yet we don't officially announce key management departure.

 

[King Elvis]

The lack of disclosure about the Smart departure is interesting. Esports such a huge part of our financial strategy and yet we don't officially announce key management departure.

Lame duck leadership.

 

[1970crow]

Lame duck leadership.

Lame duck division.

 

[mort0089]

Looking forward to this guy coming out of hiding in the next few days. He'll want to take the credit for our draft haul, as well as a mention about pre-season training and the upcoming AFLW season.

Doubt we'll hear about the five year plan though, nor anything about Smart leaving.

man is a fraud, we are only stuck with him because nobody else is dumb enough to hire him.

AS if he is ever going to be honest and accountable for what he has done to the club.

Just expect more of his shitty emails which say absolutely nothing - oh and back the boys in.

He has no idea on what to do, until we get somebody with a plan and the intelligence to carry it out expect repeats of 2020.

 

[GameofSloanes]

The lack of disclosure about the Smart departure is interesting. Esports such a huge part of our financial strategy and yet we don't officially announce key management departure.

It was just right