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Most of the speculation this year has focussed on Chris Tarrant. However, Collingwood have another underperforming KPP in their forward line - Anthony Rocca.

Unlike Tarrant, who appears to be a head-case, Rocca's big problem would appear to be a lack of fitness - something I'd trust our fitness staff to fix quick smart.

Adelaide are desperately in need of a KPP forward to replace the injured Hentschel. Would they be interested in Rocca (if he were available)? What would they be prepared to give up in order to secure his services?
 
NO. :thumbsd:

Too old.

Lack of fitness is who he is, and not only means he is unable to provide contests all day, he also lets defenders run off him far too easily.

Collingwood would want too much.

His current salary would be on par with the likes of Goodwin and McLeod, and I doubt he would accept a pay cut.
 
Vader said:
Most of the speculation this year has focussed on Chris Tarrant. However, Collingwood have another underperforming KPP in their forward line - Anthony Rocca.

Unlike Tarrant, who appears to be a head-case, Rocca's big problem would appear to be a lack of fitness - something I'd trust our fitness staff to fix quick smart.

Adelaide are desperately in need of a KPP forward to replace the injured Hentschel. Would they be interested in Rocca (if he were available)? What would they be prepared to give up in order to secure his services?
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Couldn't see him coming over, i like your thinking "outside the square" though :thumbsu: :thumbsu:
 
Vader said:
Most of the speculation this year has focussed on Chris Tarrant. However, Collingwood have another underperforming KPP in their forward line - Anthony Rocca.

Unlike Tarrant, who appears to be a head-case, Rocca's big problem would appear to be a lack of fitness - something I'd trust our fitness staff to fix quick smart.

Adelaide are desperately in need of a KPP forward to replace the injured Hentschel. Would they be interested in Rocca (if he were available)? What would they be prepared to give up in order to secure his services?
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I would say Rocca would be on the untouchable list at Collingwood, unless you were going to throw them a Top 5 Draft Pick. To his defence, I would say that he has been carrying an injury for the last 8 weeks. His early season form was very good......
 

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How about a straight trade - Rocca for Biglands?

Doesn't change our age profile one iota as both players were born within a month of each other (Rocca 15/8/77, Biglands 4/9/77).

Collingwood desperately need a ruckman. Fraser does what he can, but would be better suited to playing a Goodes type role. He simply doesn't have the bulk to compete with the better ruckmen in the competition.

Trades are about solving your immediate problems - ours is a lack of KPP forwards, theirs is the lack of a decent ruckman. Drafting is about solving problems you foresee arising in 3-4 years.

Salary could be an issue though and I'm not sure if Collingwood would be willing to give him up - though I suspect they would if the right deal came along.
 
jmorg1 said:
Forget it. Not that I'd want him but the guy wouldn't play for Sydney. Why would he play for Adelaide?
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Very different situations.

When he went to Sydney, he was drafted as a teenager. His older brother was playing for Collingwood. He got homesick.

Ten years on, he's a far more mature person. His brother is no longer playing AFL and he's well aware that his time in the AFL will not last indefinitely.

At the time he was there Sydney were a basket case. Adelaide are one of the most professional outfits in the competition. He would know that he would have a decent chance at playing in a premiership.

Chalk and cheese..

BTW, I don't think we should give up any draft selections for him, but if an appropriate player trade could be found then I'd be all for it.
 
Vader said:
Most of the speculation this year has focussed on Chris Tarrant. However, Collingwood have another underperforming KPP in their forward line - Anthony Rocca.

Unlike Tarrant, who appears to be a head-case, Rocca's big problem would appear to be a lack of fitness - something I'd trust our fitness staff to fix quick smart.

Adelaide are desperately in need of a KPP forward to replace the injured Hentschel. Would they be interested in Rocca (if he were available)? What would they be prepared to give up in order to secure his services?
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Anthony Rocca has not come up after a very serious leg operation ( wasn't it achilles or something like that??). No point in touching crock racehorses...so I wouldn't be going after crock footballers in the faint hope that our medicos could get them right. I am sure that Collingwood fans could help out with what his injury was and whether this has affected his form or ability.
 
Vader said:
Very different situations.

When he went to Sydney, he was drafted as a teenager. His older brother was playing for Collingwood. He got homesick.

Ten years on, he's a far more mature person. His brother is no longer playing AFL and he's well aware that his time in the AFL will not last indefinitely.

At the time he was there Sydney were a basket case. Adelaide are one of the most professional outfits in the competition. He would know that he would have a decent chance at playing in a premiership.

Chalk and cheese..

BTW, I don't think we should give up any draft selections for him, but if an appropriate player trade could be found then I'd be all for it.
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I think most of our list is better than him with the exception of Jericho and our rookies.
 
Vader said:
How about a straight trade - Rocca for Biglands?

Doesn't change our age profile one iota as both players were born within a month of each other (Rocca 15/8/77, Biglands 4/9/77).

Collingwood desperately need a ruckman. Fraser does what he can, but would be better suited to playing a Goodes type role. He simply doesn't have the bulk to compete with the better ruckmen in the competition.

Trades are about solving your immediate problems - ours is a lack of KPP forwards, theirs is the lack of a decent ruckman. Drafting is about solving problems you foresee arising in 3-4 years.

Salary could be an issue though and I'm not sure if Collingwood would be willing to give him up - though I suspect they would if the right deal came along.
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If you want a key forward, put biglands there. he is a better HF or FF than ruckman (although he showed he can play against freo on the weekend). Biglands certainly knows where the goals are, he has proven that this year with some great goals.
we also have mcgregor, stevens, bock, Perrie, rutten, (hentschel - when he comes back), Bonnadio who are big guys, i'm not sure thats what we really need.
Roo, Edwards, Goody, Macca and co are getting older, we have Reilly, VB, Porps, Douglas and co coming through and Shirley, Doughty, Stiffy, Mattner etc somewhere between. the midfield should be fine too.
Rutten, Stevens, Bock, Perrie, McGregor, Biglands can easily share FB, HB, HF, FF between them. Torney, Hart and Bass aren't getting any younger, maybe we should look at some medium sized backs for the future??
Clarke will almost certainly retire this year, leaving Hudson, Maric, Meese and Biglands as the main contenders for the rucking. Hudson and Biglands combo gives maric and meese a chance over the next year or two to refine their skills at AFL level before they are due to retire.

so i say backmen is what we need!
 
I understand the theory ... but Rocca's too unreliable for my liking. He's also unfit ... can barely run 100m without almost collapsing through exhaustion.
 

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I got an idea....Lets find Barry Standfield or coax Wayne Carey out of retirement then we will have at least one true centre half forward. :D
 
Vader said:
Just playing devils advocate. Had an idea and thought I'd see what sort of reaction I got. Predominantly negative. Seems the idea would not be a popular one.
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Agreed. If we need a hack, we will just call on Brent Williams or Laurence Angwin. :)
 

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KUNG FU said:
Pav or nothing.
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you can have both!

throughout the year you can have Pav and when it comes to finals you can get nothing from him! ;)

bit harsh granted, but stiffy brought this up a couple of days ago and it got me thinking... it might be circumstantial, but I'd feel better giving up a lot in trade, if he had performed in their 2 finals to date.

this week will be interesting.
 
Crow-mo said:
you can have both!

throughout the year you can have Pav and when it comes to finals you can get nothing from him! ;)

bit harsh granted, but stiffy brought this up a couple of days ago and it got me thinking... it might be circumstantial, but I'd feel better giving up a lot in trade, if he had performed in their 2 finals to date.

this week will be interesting.
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Its not only the 2 finals that sounded alarm bells for be but sometimes in real crunch matches he doesn't deliver. Remember that round 22 game (last year I think it was) where Freo needed to win against Port to make the finals and Pavlova was no where to be seen.

Having said all that, if I was given a choice of choosing one player and one player only from all the other clubs for the Crows, Pavlich would be my choice without a hint of hesitation. I think he would work much better in Craigy's "team first" system.
 
Stiffy_18 said:
Its not only the 2 finals that sounded alarm bells for be but sometimes in real crunch matches he doesn't deliver. Remember that round 22 game (last year I think it was) where Freo needed to win against Port to make the finals and Pavlova was no where to be seen.

Having said all that, if I was given a choice of choosing one player and one player only from all the other clubs for the Crows, Pavlich would be my choice without a hint of hesitation. I think he would work much better in Craigy's "team first" system.
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Stiffy pretty hard when for half a game (last week) your up an end with your team kicking into a 4 goal breeze and your freezing your proverbials off
 
Stiffy_18 said:
Its not only the 2 finals that sounded alarm bells for be but sometimes in real crunch matches he doesn't deliver. Remember that round 22 game (last year I think it was) where Freo needed to win against Port to make the finals and Pavlova was no where to be seen.

Having said all that, if I was given a choice of choosing one player and one player only from all the other clubs for the Crows, Pavlich would be my choice without a hint of hesitation. I think he would work much better in Craigy's "team first" system.
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Totally agree but word is Bell will relinquish the captaincy and Pavlich more than likely will get the nod.....hard to prize him out of Perth after that
 

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