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Originally posted by E.A.
hahahahahaahaha

So, you're a cat?
i'm sure all 'cats' outplay the other 150 players within his comp's age group and the host of other trialists from other districts invited as well. nice one f*ckwit.

Originally posted by E.A.
Why is it that AFL people think they're genuinely impartial?

I'm impartial too and I played all 4 codes. League was the hardest of the 4 to play. AFL was the easiest by far. didn't have to do anything.
am i strictly an afl person? i've lived and breathed rugby league all my life. i've stated why i believe rules is more a game of skill than league. what was your contribution? league hardest, rules easiest but, no elaboration on why. why didn't you have to do anything - told to stay out on the wing because you were so sh*t, or maybe you were picking splinters out of your arse. once again, nice one f*ckwit.

Originally posted by E.A.
You went to AFL because you couldn't hack it in League. It's ok, every kid who couldn't hack League in Sydney ended up playing Soccer or if they were really bad, they played Aussie Rules.
how flawed is this argument? i think i would have got out of it after the first year if this was the case, not after the 8th and a couple seasons in reps. i started watching rules during the superleague fiasco and decided to have a go at it. i enjoyed rules much more and that is the reason why i stuck with it.

Originally posted by E.A.
So, you made SG Ball in League?
that's what i've written.

Originally posted by E.A.
And you made the Sydney AFL competition?
you're bringing a lot of new discussion to this topic aren't you?

Originally posted by E.A.
Good for you, they're about the same level. The Sydney AFL comp is abysmal in comparison to AFL. SG Ball is a kids rep team. Actually, SG Ball would be a higher level of League than the Sydney Aussie Rules comp is to AFL.
why are you telling me? i'm the one who has played both.

Originally posted by E.A.
But back to the crux of your post.
you hadn't commented on it yet.

Originally posted by E.A.
A 40 metre pass in AFL gives the bloke at the other end time to move to where the ball is going. Backwards, forwards, sideways it doesn't matter, he has time to move to the ball. A 20 metre pass in League isn't going to go forward so the room for error is much smaller.
yes, i see players like shane webcke, peter cusack, and jason stevens perform this every week. each player in the afl must be competent at finding a player by foot at any distance. and how about overhead contested marks, and the player decisions that need to be made out on the park. no mention, i wonder why? just tuck the ball under your arm and run, who can't excel at that. why did you eliminate the other skills from your reply?

Originally posted by E.A.
It seems to me that you changed to AFL because you couldn't hack it in League and for some reason you think that pouring your heart out on a messageboard will be sufficient penance.

It isn't, you just weren't tough enough to play the greatest game of all.
haven't you already covered this? read above. i was giving my view on why i believe afl is more a game of skill than league. what have you added? i also mentioned that i found it easier to bring down a big forward front on than a back one-on-one in the clear...surpise, there's no response to that as well. you've sifted through the post, picked out what you like and tried to form a poor argument on that basis.

Originally posted by E.A.
In years to come, you'll tell people that you played AFL with Sydney Uni and they won't give a stuff. Make sure you tell them you played for the Bunnies if you want to impress them.
you've devoted a whole 3 sentences of an upteenth paragraph, repetitive response, to the 'crux of my argument'. great work.
 
I can't add to this arguement because i have really only played League... I played Union for a one day knockout comp at school only because they made the League team play in it!!! But who cares? All three games have it's con's and pro's...
 

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Originally posted by mcgarnacle
i'm sure all 'cats' outplay the other 150 players within his comp's age group and the host of other trialists from other districts invited as well. nice one f*ckwit.

Who did that then?

You?

LOL

Christ, you're a nobody, if you were anybody you'd be playing AFL or NRL. You're a wally who came here to brag when in reality you've done nothing. You just weren't good enough, just like the rest of us.

I know you think you're something special, but you aren't.

am i strictly an afl person? i've lived and breathed rugby league all my life. i've stated why i believe rules is more a game of skill than league. what was your contribution? league hardest, rules easiest but, no elaboration on why. why didn't you have to do anything - told to stay out on the wing because you were so sh*t, or maybe you were picking splinters out of your arse. once again, nice one f*ckwit.

Oh, I'm cut. An AFL nancy boy called me a ****wit.

What elaboration do you need?

AFL is a sissy's sport in comparison to League and even Union for that matter. AFL is as much a body contact sport as Netball.

?

Sufficient?

how flawed is this argument? i think i would have got out of it after the first year if this was the case, not after the 8th and a couple seasons in reps. i started watching rules during the superleague fiasco and decided to have a go at it. i enjoyed rules much more and that is the reason why i stuck with it.

Yeah, I'm sure that was the reason and not because you couldn't handle League.

Not that you did any better in AFL, **** I reckon I could just about get a start in the Sydney competition.

that's what i've written.

Yeah, I noticed.

you're bringing a lot of new discussion to this topic aren't you?

All you brought to it was nonsense. You're trying to brag with nothing to brag about.

why are you telling me? i'm the one who has played both.

I've played both too. And I've played Soccer and Union. But, not at the extremely high levels you played at.

LOL

you hadn't commented on it yet.

Yes I did, I hung crap on you for being a ****er. That the crux of it.

yes, i see players like shane webcke, peter cusack, and jason stevens perform this every week. each player in the afl must be competent at finding a player by foot at any distance. and how about overhead contested marks, and the player decisions that need to be made out on the park. no mention, i wonder why? just tuck the ball under your arm and run, who can't excel at that. why did you eliminate the other skills from your reply?

Overhead contest marks?

You mean the ones where the crowd oohs and aahh because some bloke has shoved his knee into the back of an opponent or his own player?

Yeah, that's fascinatingly difficult.

You're saying that running the ball up with the intention of getting past 13 people who are trying to knock you over isn't skilful?

hahahahahahah

Compared to what?

Kicking a ball the size of a shoe 50 metres?

Punching the ball?

Elbowing an opponent in the back of the head?

haven't you already covered this? read above. i was giving my view on why i believe afl is more a game of skill than league. what have you added? i also mentioned that i found it easier to bring down a big forward front on than a back one-on-one in the clear...surpise, there's no response to that as well. you've sifted through the post, picked out what you like and tried to form a poor argument on that basis.

Ok, so you tackled a forward and I'm sure you went off crying afterwards and that's when you decided AFL is where someone like you should be. I notice you mentioned Shane Webke, there isn't a player playing in the AFL that he wouldn't run over the top of.

I also notice that you in your effort to denigrate League seem to be pretty familiar with some of the players names. If you think it's so inferior to AFL, why do you watch it?

In my opinion AFL is inferior to League so I don't watch AFL. I couldn't name 1/2 a dozen Swans players, yet you named Peter Cusack who is hardly a high profile League player.

Face it, your just another person who enjoys League but can't admit it because the other AFL devotees here will see you as some sort of heathen.

you've devoted a whole 3 sentences of an upteenth paragraph, repetitive response, to the 'crux of my argument'. great work.

Talk up AFL all you want dopey but don't denigrate League in the process. There's no basis for comparison of the two games only one's that boofheads like you make up in your head.

How simple is that?
 
Originally posted by E.A.

58593 Brisbane v St_George QE_II 27-Aug-1993
57212 Brisbane v Gold_Coast QE_II 18-Jun-1993
54751 Brisbane v Canterbury QE_II 25-Jul-1993
54645 Brisbane v Warriors QE_II 27-Aug-1995
51517 Brisbane v Parramatta QE_II 28-Mar-1993
49607 Brisbane v South_Qld QE_II 31-Mar-1995
47486 Brisbane v Balmain QE_II 28-Aug-1994
46001 Brisbane v Canberra QE_II 04-Apr-1993
45257 Brisbane v Parramatta QE_II 20-Aug-1999
44511 Brisbane v Penrith QE_II 10-Apr-1994
44395 Brisbane v Canterbury QE_II 21-Apr-1995
42361 Brisbane v Warriors QE_II 01-Mar-1997
41211 Brisbane v Easts QE_II 07-Aug-1994
40733 Brisbane v Wests QE_II 06-Jun-1993
39843 Brisbane v St_George QE_II 17-Apr-1995
39193 Brisbane v Balmain QE_II 13-Aug-1993
39109 Brisbane v Manly QE_II 13-Mar-1998
38302 Brisbane v Canterbury QE_II 10-Jun-1994
37749 Brisbane v St_George QE_II 25-Mar-1994
37248 Brisbane v Canberra QE_II 12-May-1996
:rolleyes: so you believe everything you see on the internet??

Idiot.
 
Re: Re: Re: afl rulz

Originally posted by Hit And Rum


Play Union see the world


Clearly a myth.

When was the last time the Wallabies, SA and the All Blacks played in, Spain? Romania? the USA? Canada? the Pacific Islands?

The big 3 in the SH are so busy looking after themselves and the 6 nations teams, they have little time to see the real world.

Now if you were a 7's player, then that would be a different story.

Originally posted by Hit And Rum


Play League see Wigan


Or if your good enough to make the kangaroo tour this year, you can go to the USA.
 
Re: Re: Re: Re: afl rulz

Or if your good enough to make the kangaroo tour this year, you can go to the USA.

Murdochs pleasure game for all the expats? It's bloody awesome that the 2 richest "Australian" families are Leaguies..
 
Originally posted by littleduck


Yeah true, but thats the nature of expansion teams where other football codes are ahead. The same goes for the Lions, they better keep on winning to maintain public interest.


Exactly right. Kiwis are no different to anyone else when their team is losing, and especially so in Auckland.

You only have to look at the crowds for the Blues early season games to see that.
 

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Originally posted by AuckMel
Pity they have no influence in Melbourne.
Packer owns 9 in Syd Bris & Melb, but has no influence in Adel & Pth.

On that basis, Packer wouldnt be interested in further expansion into SA & WA would he?

Sadly, the reality is that SA & WA dont exist as far as League is concerned, now or in the future. Oddly, I tend to agree.
 
Re: Re: Re: Re: afl rulz

Originally posted by AuckMel
Clearly a myth.


Or if your good enough to make the kangaroo tour this year, you can go to the USA.

USA, France, Wales, London, Nth England.

Not a bad little trip for our league team this year.
 
"Had the Western Reds continued in Perth, I am sure they would have been properly embraced by the city"

In the end low crowds and continuing high costs forced the decision

"totally different situation to the Storm."

Yes it's a much bigger population target .However this has been found to be a false rational .It's easier to conquer good medium sized targets than large cities like Sydney and Melbourne .

"A succesful Western Reds would have made it far more difficult for AFL to establish a 2nd team & for the Perth Glory to attract the level of support they are now."

Only from a revenue perspective .Dockers are basically a team for people who dont like the WCE .

"Now my opinion has changed to be that Perth is lost forever and the market isnt worth trying to crack again. What League loses in SA & WA to AFL, we will make up with continued expansion across NZ (pop. 4 mil)."

Totally agree . Good luck .

On the dynamics of expansion it's interesting to note that the Dockers started poorly and are slowly building themselves into a powerhouse position .The Reds started absolutely brilliantly and faded to almost nothing . the Glory has enjoyed great support but in spite of being a constant grand finalist it has faded and now is in debt and in danger of not being reformed .The Wildcats similarly have gone from more to less to debt to danger of disbanding .The Heat have gone forever .The Netball was never a winner .

Yes it is for the long term .
 

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The problem with the Reds, Rams and probably the others like the Crushers and so on COULDN'T build a quality team. It was interesting to hear Gallop say last week on radio(when I was in Sydney) that John Quale stated that at the time they couldn't police the salary cap.

So the existing teams could pay almost whatever they wanted to keep their players from going to the Reds(and the rest). Which made it extremely hard to build any kind of a competitive team.

Perhaps if they were willing to expand to Perth in the future, lessons learned might help build a good side over there. Personally, I'd be looking at least 10-15 years from now. Play regular NRL games. An Origin and Test match. Spend time educating school kids. Help the WARL to attract more players. Try and get an NRL game on TV live.


Basically everything that the NRL DIDN'T do for the Storm.
 
Originally posted by cos789
"Had the Western Reds continued in Perth, I am sure they would have been properly embraced by the city"

In the end low crowds and continuing high costs forced the decision
Rubbish.

SL chopped the Reds & Rams for no other reason than it was "easier" to chop any of the others SL teams. Likewise, the ARL chopped the Gold Coast & South Queensland etc because they werent Sydney teams, & since the ARL was a Sydney comp the Qld teams were "easiest" to chop.

That's the way it was.

"totally different situation to the Storm."

Yes it's a much bigger population target .However this has been found to be a false rational .It's easier to conquer good medium sized targets than large cities like Sydney and Melbourne .
What is your basic for such a claim.

"A succesful Western Reds would have made it far more difficult for AFL to establish a 2nd team & for the Perth Glory to attract the level of support they are now."

Only from a revenue perspective .Dockers are basically a team for people who dont like the WCE .
Rubbish, from every perspective (not just revenue), obviously revenue being one of the most important.

"Now my opinion has changed to be that Perth is lost forever and the market isnt worth trying to crack again. What League loses in SA & WA to AFL, we will make up with continued expansion across NZ (pop. 4 mil)."

Totally agree . Good luck .
Good luck with what?

On the dynamics of expansion it's interesting to note that the Dockers started poorly and are slowly building themselves into a powerhouse position .The Reds started absolutely brilliantly and faded to almost nothing .
How did the Western Reds start brilliantly?
 
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