USA AOC, Bernie Sanders and Zohran Mamdani. The need for strong progressive voices in US politics.

[GreyCrow]

So you like Dan Andrews?
The a**hole who teamed up with Catholic fundamentalist Perritot during COVID?
The guy who decided that 44 public housing towers can be demolished so that real estate parasites backed by finance capital can move in and take over prime inner city property?

Explains something about you.

No I dont care about Andrews. Thats the point. He affects my life 0 % - but I did love your reaction. Just proved my point.

 

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Chris Cuomo asked Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez how we pay for Medicare for All, tuition free college, and the green new deal. It gives people sticker shock. Her answer:

“People talk about the sticker shock of Medicare for All, but they do not talk about the sticker shock of our existing system. In a Koch brothers funded study, it shows that Medicare for All is actually much cheaper than the current system.

Let's not forget that the Supreme Court upheld the Affordable Care Act because they ruled that each of these monthly payments that everyday Americans make is a tax. We pay it every single month. (Or we pay at tax season if we don't buy plans off of the exchange.)

Americans have the sticker shock of healthcare as it is. Why aren't we incorporating the cost of funeral expenses of those who die because they can't afford access to healthcare? That is part of the cost of our system. Or the cost of reduced productivity because of people who need to go on disability or are not able to participate in our economy because they don't have access to the healthcare that they need?

At the end of the day, we see that this is not a pipe dream. Every other developed nation in the world has this. Why can't America? And that is the question we need to ask.

We write blank checks for war. We just wrote a $2 trillion check for the GOP tax cut. And nobody asks how are we going to pay for it.
So my question is why are our pockets only empty when it comes to education and healthcare for our kids? Why are our pockets only empty when we talk about 100% renewable energy that is going to save this planet and allow our children to thrive?

We only have empty pockets when it comes to the morally right things to do. But

when it comes to tax cuts for billionaires or unlimited war, we seem to be able to invent that money very easily. To me it belies a lack of moral priorities that people have right now, especially the Republican Party.”

 

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"What we are fighting for – a government that works for all and not just the few, a government based on economic, racial, social justice – this is not utopia, this is not some pie-in-the-sky idea. This is something the American people want and was manifested today,"

Bernie Sanders Speaks with Zeteo After Swearing In Zohran Mamdani

Sanders described his joy at Mamdani proudly standing behind Democratic socialism – and why he sees him as a ‘national spokesperson’ for the movement.

zeteo.com

 

[spinynorman]

The two fake socialists, Sanders and AOC, played a leading role in Mamdani's official inauguration. This cements Mamdani as truly an icon of the Democratic Socialists, ie the pseudo left cover for the Democratic Party.

Mamdani has already made clear to Wall street that he does not represent any threat to the corporate billionaires, whose interests he fully respects. He has also made clear that he sees a future of a shared dream with Donald Trump in his infamous meeting with the fascist in the White House a few weeks ago.

Hundreds of thousands who voted for Mamdani hoping for a genuine alternative to the rightward lurch of the entire political establishment in the US will be cruelly disappointed, but at the same time will learn crucial political lessons.

It's fair to say the structural disadvantages in the US system make it difficult to enact or pass left wing policies in the US. Nonetheless, wouldn't a Mamdani figure and his enormous (electoral) success be an opportunity? Attract people to the left cause and in doing so build the organisations and mass movements required to win and grow political power.

Going so hard on your criticism before he was even mayor makes it seem like you're critical for the sake of being critical. Mamdani being elected mayor doesn't mean the work should stop on building an organised mass movement that aims to overhaul the system, but you've got someone sympathetic to much of your program who has won a powerful position, and that shouldn't be thrown away now.

Given the structural disadvantages mentioned above, it's worth asking yourself honestly what you would do differently to him and how.

 

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'I was briefed this morning on the U.S. military capture of Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro and his wife, as well as their planned imprisonment in federal custody here in New York City.

Unilaterally attacking a sovereign nation is an act of war and a violation of federal and international law.

This blatant pursuit of regime change doesn’t just affect those abroad, it directly impacts New Yorkers, including tens of thousands of Venezuelans who call this city home. My focus is their safety and the safety of every New Yorker, and my administration will continue to monitor the situation and issue relevant guidance."

mayor mamdani

 

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and looking after his kleptoctat mates.

 

[Seeds]

No I dont care about Andrews. Thats the point. He affects my life 0 % - but I did love your reaction. Just proved my point.

Thats simply not true if you live in Victoria. Everyone has been impacted by the policies implemented by its government and continues to be so. Its gross naivity to think otherwise.

 

[Seeds]

"What we are fighting for – a government that works for all and not just the few, a government based on economic, racial, social justice – this is not utopia, this is not some pie-in-the-sky idea. This is something the American people want and was manifested today,"

Bernie Sanders Speaks with Zeteo After Swearing In Zohran Mamdani

Sanders described his joy at Mamdani proudly standing behind Democratic socialism – and why he sees him as a ‘national spokesperson’ for the movement.

zeteo.com

Why does he not want a utopia? I want a utopia.

 

[faible]

Isnt it fantastic

Its like a Dan Andrews hater just hating because they have no other emotion - and realising the political reality is that Mamdani will not only survive but thrive - therefore reinforcing the hate

Good times to know someone cant shit each day because they are blocked up with hate

There's no one that will ever be elected that will meet that posters standards of perfection. By the time someone has made the compromises necessary to get popularly elected, they'll no longer be perfect.

It's a nice fantasy he has about this socialist utopia, but there's little evidence he realises that it'll never become reality.

 

[faible]

It's fair to say the structural disadvantages in the US system make it difficult to enact or pass left wing policies in the US. Nonetheless, wouldn't a Mamdani figure and his enormous (electoral) success be an opportunity? Attract people to the left cause and in doing so build the organisations and mass movements required to win and grow political power.

Going so hard on your criticism before he was even mayor makes it seem like you're critical for the sake of being critical. Mamdani being elected mayor doesn't mean the work should stop on building an organised mass movement that aims to overhaul the system, but you've got someone sympathetic to much of your program who has won a powerful position, and that shouldn't be thrown away now.

Given the structural disadvantages mentioned above, it's worth asking yourself honestly what you would do differently to him and how.

I've always believed flawed but practical and achievable is better than perfect but unattainable.

Is Mamdani going to be the perfect version of socialism that they write about in books? No. The reality of being a local city Mayor (even if it's of a major city) means that there's no practical way he could implement these kinds of things even if he had the popular support to do so, and lived in a country where it was possible to do so (Federal laws and funding is a thing after all).

Is Mamdani going to be better for the average New Yorker than most other realistic alternatives? My guess is it's a yes.

 

[GreyCrow]

Thats simply not true if you live in Victoria. Everyone has been impacted by the policies implemented by its government and continues to be so. Its gross naivity to think otherwise.

But I dont. I love how you still hate someone no longer in office

Enjoy your morning shit

 

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I've always believed flawed but practical and achievable is better than perfect but unattainable.

Is Mamdani going to be the perfect version of socialism that they write about in books? No. The reality of being a local city Mayor (even if it's of a major city) means that there's no practical way he could implement these kinds of things even if he had the popular support to do so, and lived in a country where it was possible to do so (Federal laws and funding is a thing after all).

Is Mamdani going to be better for the average New Yorker than most other realistic alternatives? My guess is it's a yes.

i have greater hopes than you. those being, even with partial success of his platform, he'll start a movement

 

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Why does he not want a utopia? I want a utopia.

maybe be argument. however, i tried to move to utopia, but couldn't find the passport.