Armfield and Browne – a recruiting Masterstroke

[parrot]

The more I hear about these 2, the more I realise that these draft choices have been carefully thought out. Both are below 185cm, something we needed to counteract the excess height on our list, and both seem physically ready for the demands of AFL footy. Browne already has sensational skills, well in advance of a player of his age. Going to start as a small defender no doubt, but he has the skill set, and desire to become a more than valuable midfielder. Armfield has blistering speed, excellent skills, and a tough, aggressive attitude. Might play a role similar to Campbell Brown. Armfield is the perfect match for the soft, selfish small receiver types like Nathan Brown and Thomas. Wouldn’t be surprised to see him go forward on occasions as well.

 

[Pie_squasher]

Hope you're right Parrot - although I'm happy with the recruiting of these 2, as they say "The proof will be in the Pudding".

 

[CFC_4LYF_TRUE BLUE]

The more I hear about these 2, the more I realise that these draft choices have been carefully thought out. Both are below 185cm, something we needed to counteract the excess height on our list, and both seem physically ready for the demands of AFL footy. Browne already has sensational skills, well in advance of a player of his age. Going to start as a small defender no doubt, but he has the skill set, and desire to become a more than valuable midfielder. Armfield has blistering speed, excellent skills, and a tough, aggressive attitude. Might play a role similar to Campbell Brown. Armfield is the perfect match for the soft, selfish small receiver types like Nathan Brown and Thomas. Wouldn’t be surprised to see him go forward on occasions as well.

Exactly right
I was really pleased with our drapht choices, when i heard about these two I was really impressed and looking forward to seeing them perform in 08

 

[Pie_squasher]

Armfield does however remind me of an Andy Mackay (here's hoping!!!!)

 

[parrot]

Armfield does however remind me of an Andy Mackay (here's hoping!!!!)

Yep. And Mackay's role was often under-rated. He was a tough small-medium rebounding defender. But what he also had, was outstanding skill execution.

 

[The Cranium]

Happy 2008 to all you Blue Baggers. No rally this year, so here's for a fruitful year for the CFC.

 

[audas]

Happy to see we are making some Draft choices rather than Daft choices.

Armfield is what we need as he will release Walker into the middle or wing where he can cause untold damage.

Browne, not as keen on as he seems to have less determination, drops the ball in his kicking action, can dispose into danger. (All this from one 2 minute video...wow), however will release Gibbs to move forward and provide depth.

I feel parrot you could have mentioned Pfieffer in this post? May release waite to go forward.

 

[audas]

Happy 2008 to all you Blue Baggers. No rally this year, so here's for a fruitful year for the CFC.

Birdman Rally ?

 

[Pie_squasher]

Happy to see we are making some Draft choices rather than Daft choices.

Armfield is what we need as he will release Walker into the middle or wing where he can cause untold damage.

Browne, not as keen on as he seems to have less determination, drops the ball in his kicking action, can dispose into danger. (All this from one 2 minute video...wow), however will release Gibbs to move forward and provide depth.

I feel parrot you could have mentioned Pfieffer in this post? May release waite to go forward.

Wouldn't be too harsh yet Audas - from what I've been told Carlton were very suprised to see him go outside Top 20. Very, very highly rated intra club although I don't know too much about him personally!!!

 

[Salaryman]

Happy to see we are making some Draft choices rather than Daft choices.

Armfield is what we need as he will release Walker into the middle or wing where he can cause untold damage.

Browne, not as keen on as he seems to have less determination, drops the ball in his kicking action, can dispose into danger. (All this from one 2 minute video...wow), however will release Gibbs to move forward and provide depth.

I feel parrot you could have mentioned Pfieffer in this post? May release waite to go forward.

Just as well, would look pretty stupid if he didn't

 

[Silvagnis]

Armfield is the perfect match for the soft, selfish small receiver types like Nathan Brown and Thomas.

I'd like to see Pfeiffer play on Thomas, he has the speed, hardness. and the leap after he recorded the biggest leap at the 2005 draft camp. Thomas acts like he's had 30 touches and 6 hard ball gets when he kicks a goal after receiving the ball in space to kick an easy uncontested goal.

I hope someone smashes that show pony if he ever dares to run into a pack.

Thomas isn't worth Murphy's or Gibbs' ^&&%&%^.

 

[audas]

Just as well, would look pretty stupid if he didn't

Giggiddy!

 

[audas]

I'd like to see Pfeiffer play on Thomas, he has the speed, hardness. and the leap after he recorded the biggest leap at the 2005 draft camp. Thomas acts like he's had 30 touches and 6 hard ball gets when he kicks a goal after receiving the ball in space to kick an easy uncontested goal.

I hope someone smashes that show pony if he ever dares to run into a pack.

Thomas isn't worth Murphy's or Gibbs' ^&&%&%^.

I have dark inner thoughts as well.......does any get the feeling that pfieffer may have a little darkness in him...some Henry Rollins ?

 

[Bluebear]

They are training well no doubt, but can we wait until they have actually done something at senior level before we blow to much wind up the recruiters arses.

I think they will be as good as we are all saying, but most of the comments in this thread seem to be congratulating our selections already.

Jetta looked a good pick too, sometimes you just never know.

 

[HBF]

Out of the two, Armfield is the one that has been the more impressive on the track - just. His speed and disposal are very good, and he does all of the one-percenters very well. Sheparding, blocking, tackling, chasing, etc, etc, he does it all. If he can produce in game time what he does on the track, then I really think we might have found a player here.

 

[Blue Dawn]

Very exciting at this early stage. I expect Armfield to slot straight into our 22 and Browne to take an extra year or so come on.

 

[AlecDuncan]

Yep. And Mackay's role was often under-rated. He was a tough small-medium rebounding defender. But what he also had, was outstanding skill execution.

Er, he was a mediocre kick. He was especially bad when he got near goals.

Still a champ though.

 

[parrot]

Er, he was a mediocre kick. He was especially bad when he got near goals.....

Not when rebounding from the back half. His delivery was top-rate.

 

[AlecDuncan]

Not when rebounding from the back half. His delivery was top-rate.

Only when he handpassed. People bag Walker and Carazzo's kicking, but they're both better than Macca was.

 

[gandaal]

Only when he handpassed. People bag Walker and Carazzo's kicking, but they're both better than Macca was.

The issue with Walker's kicking is his inability to hit targets when under pressure. McKay didn't have those issues.

 

[parrot]

The issue with Walker's kicking is his inability to hit targets when under pressure. McKay didn't have those issues.

That is correct, McKay could maintain balance, and kick perfectly even under extreme pressure. When Walker has time, his kicking is actually quite good. He's had problems disposing accurately when running at top pace, and when under pressure, although he has improved a lot over the past 12 months. Murph is a classic example of a player who can kick well under pressure, pretty much from day 1. It's obviously a skill he's worked on for a long time. Even when he is being tackled, it's very hard to push him off the ball, and he maintains enough control to make his kick effective. Walker is an explosive type player, and his acceleration and pack busting strength, adds an extra technical difficulty that slower players or fast players that play wide of packs (e.g. Deledio) don't have. Although Deledio often sprays his kicks all over the place.

 

[Artie Bucco]

That is correct, McKay could maintain balance, and kick perfectly even under extreme pressure. When Walker has time, his kicking is actually quite good. He's had problems disposing accurately when running at top pace, and when under pressure, although he has improved a lot over the past 12 months. Murph is a classic example of a player who can kick well under pressure, pretty much from day 1. It's obviously a skill he's worked on for a long time. Even when he is being tackled, it's very hard to push him off the ball, and he maintains enough control to make his kick effective. Walker is an explosive type player, and his acceleration and pack busting strength, adds an extra technical difficulty that slower players or fast players that play wide of packs (e.g. Deledio) don't have. Although Deledio often sprays his kicks all over the place.

Good summary, from what I saw last time at training he seems to be working a bit on his pressure kicks.

 

[AlecDuncan]

The issue with Walker's kicking is his inability to hit targets when under pressure. McKay didn't have those issues.

I think nostalgia's gotten the better of you. Macca was a champ, but he was a very ordinary kick.

 

[Bluebear]

I think nostalgia's gotten the better of you. Macca was a champ, but he was a very ordinary kick.

I would have to agree with you here AD.
My memories of Macca are that he kicked "like a backman" and that he was much better dishing off to Campo and Braddles and trying to spot up a target under pressure.

Can't recall his goal kicking too often so I'll take your word on that, but field kicking under pressure was not his best attribute.

 

[HBF]

The issue with Walker's kicking is his inability to hit targets when under pressure. McKay didn't have those issues.

And having a chat to someone who followed the kids back when Walker was drafted, this was what they were concerned about. I'm not sure the best way he can overcome this, just more practice at training I guess under match simulated conditions.