Conspiracy Theory Australian Politics

[bourbons]

Meanwhile I'm just happy to accept Avi's word for it...

Oh nearly forgot, how funny is this bit.

Would have expected you to take a fairly strong stance against and not believe a single thing convicted domestic abusers have to say - or is that only in the cases of immigrants dear leader wants to deport?

Avi Yemini, 'spokesperson' for Tommy Robinson, convicted of assaulting his ex-wife - The Jewish Chronicle

She described being 'terrorised' and feeling like 'just a vessel for his hatred' in statement read out in court

www.thejc.com

 

[HitTheNailOnTheHead]

Oh nearly forgot, how funny is this bit.

Would have expected you to take a fairly strong stance against and not believe a single thing convicted domestic abusers have to say - or is that only in the cases of immigrants dear leader wants to deport?

Avi Yemini, 'spokesperson' for Tommy Robinson, convicted of assaulting his ex-wife - The Jewish Chronicle

She described being 'terrorised' and feeling like 'just a vessel for his hatred' in statement read out in court

www.thejc.com

Yeah mate. Avi sending a couple of angry text messages, flinging a chopping board which accidentally hit his wife once (she didn't make a complaint about this until years after the incident) is ...

eXaCtlY dA sAmE aS wOt Abrego Garcia got up to isn't it, you two pot screamer.

Yep Abrego Garcia, a literal repeat wife beater who punched and scratched her multiple times, ripped off her shorts and shirt, grabbed hold of one of his steel capped work boots to flog her with it, dragged her out of a vehicle by her hair and left her stranded on the side of the road, mentally abused her children, locking them in their bedroom while they cried is almost identically vicious.

 

[HitTheNailOnTheHead]

Thanks, turns out I only needed 3 seconds

This would be confirmation of Sewell talking uninterrupted and applauded ...

Off the sauce and onto the harder stuff now mate? Absolutely no applauding heard there whatsoever. I get it mate there's no way you'll believe Sewell and/or the NSN gatecrashed this event until the MSM reports that is what occurred. No problem believing he gatecrashed Jacinta Allan's press conference a few days earlier because the Age reported it.

‘Likely risk of injury or death’ if neo-Nazi released, police say

Thomas Sewell was at risk of killing someone unless he renounced his white supremacist views, a bail hearing was told.

www.theage.com.au

No problems believing masked up Victorian Nazis gatecrashed a pro refugee rally last year either presumably, because that's what Channel 9 reported.

https://www.9news.com.au/national/n...elbourne/831dfbe0-924a-4364-8328-7fe853776964

However until a similar outlet reports that is what occurred at the March for Australia event, you believe Thomas and his mates have reformed and have put their gatecrashing days behind them.

 

[bourbons]

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Yeah mate. Avi sending a couple of angry text messages, flinging a chopping board which accidentally hit his wife once (she didn't make a complaint about this until years after the incident) is ...

eXaCtlY dA sAmE aS wOt Abrego Garcia got up to isn't it, you two pot screamer.

"Accidentally"

Add domestic abusers to the hallowed list of degenerates you'll reflexively defend if it works for your narrative, alongside nazis and rapists. A shining example to all mate, you're going beautifully no notes

And I wouldn't say its exactly the same... Abrego Garcia and his wife had reconciled and been living together happily for years, no such repentance from Avi of forgiveness from his ex as far as I'm aware.

 

[bourbons]

Absolutely no applauding heard there whatsoever.

lolz

Excruciating as always mate

First instance 26 seconds in, with an even bigger round of applause at 1 min 20. Sewell also helpfully confirms around this 2nd timestamp that "his men" were at the forefront of the march and actually defending it from the "palestinians and communists" - ya know, pretty much the literal opposite of what you're pretending happened?

 

[HitTheNailOnTheHead]

Add domestic abusers to the hallowed list of degenerates you'll reflexively defend

No mate you're projecting again. You think that because Garcia and his wife reconciled and he apparently stopped beating her with his fists and steel caps, that absolves him of previously punching and scratching her multiple times, ripping off her shorts and shirt, grabbing hold of one of his steel capped work boots to flog her with it, dragging her out of a vehicle by her hair leaving her stranded on the side of the road as well as the abuse of her children. So much so you think he's a better human than Avi who flung a chopping board once. Your alcohol-addled pea brain just can't comprehend that your hero Garcia might have reconciled with his wife in order to convince her to drop the charges she had sought against him.

alongside nazis

Lying again. Which Nazis have I reflexively defended?

 

[HitTheNailOnTheHead]

lolz



First instance 26 seconds in, with an even bigger round of applause at 1 min 20.

Seriously? Look at the panning shots mate. It's only his goons cheering. **** me you're cooked.

 

[bourbons]

No mate you're projecting again. You think that because Garcia and his wife reconciled and he apparently stopped beating her with his fists and steel caps, that absolves him of previously punching and scratching her multiple times, ripping off her shorts and shirt, grabbing hold of one of his steel capped work boots to flog her with it, dragging her out of a vehicle by her hair leaving her stranded on the side of the road as well as the abuse of her children. So much so you think he's a better human than Avi who flung a chopping board once. Your alcohol-addled pea brain just can't comprehend that your hero Garcia might have reconciled with his wife in order to convince her to drop the charges she had sought against him.

So angry

Look mate, its ok - domestic abusers on your team = good, domestic abusers not your team = bad, we get it. No biggie for you, honestly I'd be more surprised if you ever managed to maintain a consistent line on anything related to your narratives at this point.

 

[bourbons]

Seriously? Look at the panning shots mate. It's only his goons cheering. **** me you're cooked.

lol

Anyway good that we've established that there was in fact cheering and applause, progress

I checked the panning shots, quite a large crowd there - who somehow seemed utterly unperturbed that they were being forced to listen to a nazi who had just "bashed his way" into the rally, subdued the organisers and set up his own podium

Would have expected maybe a few boos at the very least. Considering the vision it almost comes across like you're just making things up

 

[HitTheNailOnTheHead]

Look mate, its ok - domestic abusers on your team = good, domestic abusers not your team = bad, we get it.

Speak for yourself.

Wait .. I see you already have.

 

[faible]

So angry

Look mate, its ok - domestic abusers on your team = good, domestic abusers not your team = bad, we get it. No biggie for you, honestly I'd be more surprised if you ever managed to maintain a consistent line on anything related to your narratives at this point.

Old mate really covering himself in glory today. Up and about defending sex offenders and domestic abusers so long as they like what he said.

 

[HitTheNailOnTheHead]

Anyway good that we've established that there was in fact cheering and applause, progress

From his own goon squad yeah. **** me.

rofl

Always know how well you're going when you retreat to semantics of this degree, superb

 

[bourbons]

Speak for yourself.

Wait .. I see you already have.

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Ahh we've reached the "no you are" stage of your debate flowchart, good stuff

No surer indication that you've run out of coherent arguments

 

[bourbons]

From his own goon squad yeah. **** me.

Hell mate, they're your own words lol ¯\(ツ)/¯

Absolutely no applauding heard there whatsoever.

And now, in addition to "no you are", the selective quote dropping the part you'd prefer not to address, we've got the HitTheNail quinella

Seriously, any idea why the large crowd somehow seemed utterly unperturbed that they were being forced to listen to a nazi who had just "bashed his way" into the rally, subdued the organisers and set up his own podium?

 

[bourbons]

Old mate really covering himself in glory today. Up and about defending sex offenders and domestic abusers so long as they like what he said.

We're surely only a few days away from another extended spiel on why Andy Tate really isn't that bad, nothing proven, text and voicemails faked, he's just misunderstood/mischaracterised etc.

 

[HitTheNailOnTheHead]

Ahh we've reached the "no you are" stage of your debate flowchart, good stuff

No surer indication that you've run out of coherent arguments

Not in the slightest mate. I just never let up on an opportunity to once again highlight your hypocrisy.

 

[bourbons]

Not in the slightest mate. I just never let up on an opportunity to once again highlight your hypocrisy.

Lets cut to the chase shall we, I don't have a 7 post deflectory tangent in me today sorry

Meanwhile I'm just happy to accept Avi's word for it...

Now, if you could just show me where I've ever said I accept Abrego Garcia's word for anything that'd be grand.

But do it after you address the last question about the crowd not seeming to care that nazi's had just bashed their way into the rally, please.

 

[HitTheNailOnTheHead]

Seriously, any idea why the large crowd somehow seemed utterly unperturbed ...

Did you catch the comments of many of those who booed him, turned their back on him or walked away?

 

[HitTheNailOnTheHead]

... just show me where I've ever said I accept Abrego Garcia's word for anything that's (sic) be grand.

Sorry, you did or did not believe it when Garcia said through his lawyer (in response to the wife bashing allegations) that they'd reconciled and lived together happily in the years following the incidents?

 

[bourbons]

Did you catch the comments of many of those who booed him, turned their back on him or walked away?

Can't have been too many, sure didn't come through on any of the videos I've seen.

In any case

I totally accept that many of the rally goers wouldn't have known who he was and what he stands for - the rally organisers certainly did though. Thats the whole point, an attempted smuggling of pure nazi shit into mainstream discourse via leveraging of and grafting on to other causes. Its not a new approach.

In addition to this, I also accept that some rally goers (not many by the sounds of things) knew who he was and weren't happy he was speaking - but this does nothing to disprove that rally organisers did know, co-ordinated with him to speak and that he most certainly didn't "bash his way" in there.

 

[bourbons]

Sorry, you did or did not believe it when Garcia said through his lawyer (in response to the wife bashing allegations) that they'd reconciled and lived together happily in the years following the incidents?

No, I believed his wife when she said that.

 

[FlowersByIrene]

Can't have been too many, sure didn't come through on any of the videos I've seen.

In any case

In addition to this, I also accept that some rally goers (not many by the sounds of things) knew who he was and weren't happy he was speaking - but this does nothing to disprove that rally organisers did know, co-ordinated with him to speak and that he most certainly didn't "bash his way" in there.

I find the participation of the NSN at the rally concerning and confusing - it would be interesting to figure out exactly who organised the event and why there was even tacit support for the NSN contributing in the event.

I get that the right has been so downtrodden by the media and business that it can be hard for people to stand up on the centre-right and fight for their beliefs, including setting up these (necessary and well intended) protests to Labor's far left government, but the fact that it takes the contribution (whether fully intentional or not) of promoters with some sort of soft spot for groups like the NSN concerning.

 

[bourbons]

I find the participation of the NSN at the rally concerning and confusing - it would be interesting to figure out exactly who organised the event and why there was even tacit support for the NSN contributing in the event.

Coz the organisers have no issue with nazis speaking at their event, its not some big mystery.

One organiser and promoter of the rally is Hugo Lennon, a far-right anti-immigration influencer who has a history of promoting extreme-right and racist materials online.

They pretended it was about housing affordability and stuff, whereas in reality the marches were mostly

an attempted smuggling of pure nazi shit into mainstream discourse via leveraging of and grafting on to other causes. Its not a new approach.

Possible that some speakers and quite a few of the attendees weren't thinking along those extremist lines. Rest assured the organisers who coordinated with the nazi groups and allowed them to speak were, though.

And yes you're right, its very concerning.

 

[HitTheNailOnTheHead]

No, I believed his wife when she said that.

Link me up. I can only remember his lawyer making the statement on his behalf.

 

[HitTheNailOnTheHead]

Coz the organisers have no issue with nazis speaking at their event, its not some big mystery.

If it was held in a hired hall or stadium they would have control but this was held in a public place. Not much you can do to prevent people speaking in a public place. As the ABC revealed yesterday, Melbourne had no official organiser as the original dropped out.