Bagging players

[the ranger]

Are you serious? I think that may just be the most laughable load of bollocks I've ever read.Society has never been more dumbed-down than it is now. Most people these days could be convinced that the world is flat, all it would take is a slick advertising campaign or a series of "exposes" on A Current Affair. Half the populace is barely literate.Go read this forum for starters, if you need any proof. People can't even be arsed to spell basic words like "you" and "to" or properly articulate that they find something amusing , instead resorting to using childish acronyms.(And some them aren't just kids and are actually old enough to know better..they know who they are....)

Notions of "positive reinforcement" and "self esteem" are nothing but vacuous Southern Californian psycho-babble and double-speak. That crap is why we see so many delusional kids who can't carry a tune audition for Idol and why idiotic shows like that and Big Brother are popular. Why our schools are a joke. Western society is in a state of decline and on the verge of collapse, rotting with moral,spiritual and intellectual decay. People everywhere living beyond their means, brainwashed and blinded by empty materialism and embarking on worthless pursuits, leading meaningless lives and obssessed with the trivial. Weakness, decadence and stupidity is celebrated and encouraged like never before. The glib and the shallow are worshipped. The only thing shrinking faster than the world itself is our attention spans, at the opposite end of the spectrum everyone's sense of entitlement is only growing at the same rapid rate.

Sure some questionable ideas of the past are now rightly redundant, but in reality the babies that were common sense and noble values have by and large been thrown out with the bathwater of those incorrigable bigotries and backwards schools of thought in our rush to cleanse our consciences of both real and perceived injustices of before.The ignorance of old has merely been replaced by new kinds, if anything , more subtle and insidious. Basic manners and human decency have virtually no currency, real debate and opinion is ever increasingly surpressed, marginalised and shouted down as is a genuine diversity of thought....and I haven't even scratched the surface.
The last century was the most violent in human history, but it was a just a dress rehearsal for this one, all the same conditions that gave rise to extremism are in place at the turn of this century as they were at the turn of the last, only ten fold ,and the fact is these supposedly sensitive new age attitudes that you've praised are at least partly to blame for a lot of what's going on, as they are ultimately destructive to a cohesive, balanced, enlightened and well adjusted society. Stop living in a dreamworld and open your eyes, son, it's the fall of Rome all over again, and then some.

Great post, but I disagree about the use of acronyms (and emoticons) to express amusement. I used to avoid using them but it's much easier to convey the intended tone of a message with a wink or a LOL. As long as you know when it's inappropriate to use those devices, I think it's just fine LOL

 

[Wallaby]

A great post,Mario with only two minor flaws.

1. Judging spelling and grammar from an internet forum is unreliable, as is evidenced by your own post - 'incorrigable', 'surpressed', 'arsed'.

2. The glib and the shallow have always been worshipped in popular culture - there are whole worlds out there that do not rely on mass media attention for its existence - science, philosophy, economics. Perhaps you should look into some of these.

3. Literacy standards have never been higher in the world - according to almost all studies.

4. Depending on how you measure it the 20th century either was or was not the most violent century ever. Certainly there were more deaths, but that was primarily due to (i) greater populations (ii) better killing technology. In terms of actual conflicts, numbers were actually down.

5. Not sure how you define 'meaningless lives' - mine is fine. Perhaps you need to find yourself a spiritual mentor.

6. 'Slick advertising campaigns' work both ways - maybe you should be challenging some of the 'doom and gloom' messages you have been reading.

I realise that is more than 2 minor flaws, but once I got going it was hard to stop

 

[LC_15]

I think a nice cup of harden the **** up works better. I always responded to that.

I want to punch people who try to sugar coat garbage.

Football is a harsh sport, I can't see the very people who play it wanting a nice cup of cocoa and a "there there, it will be all ok" speech. Especially when they all run at each other with the explicit objective of hurting each other while grabbing a leather ball.

Positive reenforcement does one thing, it doesn't address the problem at hand. It just wallpapers of the issue until someone finally does explode.

 

[beaver fever]

Yup, good post Luigi SlownessHorse. Have you seen Decadence: The Meaninglessness of Modern Life on SBS? Good documentary exploring some of the issues you brought up.

 

[deliberate!!]

This generation is fararked if they think typing on a phone makes sense!

 

[cormick]

Diz genration is fukd if dey tink typin on a fone makez sence!

 

[getthefooty]

Is that you or your brother cormick?

 

[cormick]

Lol me acting even worse than what my bro is like.
But don't look down on him, he's a shitload smarter than me.

i think he's at uni atm...

 

[JSFish]

Hahaha touche GTF.

 

[mhill]

Well your obviously one of those "idiotic bogans" in Top_4_Tiger's nuetered little metrosexual world....

But seriously...his way of thinking, greatly disturbs and frustrates me...



Are you serious? I think that may just be the most laughable load of bollocks I've ever read.Society has never been more dumbed-down than it is now. Most people these days could be convinced that the world is flat, all it would take is a slick advertising campaign or a series of "exposes" on A Current Affair. Half the populace is barely literate.Go read this forum for starters, if you need any proof. People can't even be arsed to spell basic words like "you" and "to" or properly articulate that they find something amusing , instead resorting to using childish acronyms.(And some them aren't just kids and are actually old enough to know better..they know who they are....)

Notions of "positive reinforcement" and "self esteem" are nothing but vacuous Southern Californian psycho-babble and double-speak. That crap is why we see so many delusional kids who can't carry a tune audition for Idol and why idiotic shows like that and Big Brother are popular. Why our schools are a joke. Western society is in a state of decline and on the verge of collapse, rotting with moral,spiritual and intellectual decay. People everywhere living beyond their means, brainwashed and blinded by empty materialism and embarking on worthless pursuits, leading meaningless lives and obssessed with the trivial. Weakness, decadence and stupidity is celebrated and encouraged like never before. The glib and the shallow are worshipped. The only thing shrinking faster than the world itself is our attention spans, at the opposite end of the spectrum everyone's sense of entitlement is only growing at the same rapid rate.

Sure some questionable ideas of the past are now rightly redundant, but in reality the babies that were common sense and noble values have by and large been thrown out with the bathwater of those incorrigable bigotries and backwards schools of thought in our rush to cleanse our consciences of both real and perceived injustices of before.The ignorance of old has merely been replaced by new kinds, if anything , more subtle and insidious. Basic manners and human decency have virtually no currency, real debate and opinion is ever increasingly surpressed, marginalised and shouted down as is a genuine diversity of thought....and I haven't even scratched the surface.
The last century was the most violent in human history, but it was a just a dress rehearsal for this one, all the same conditions that gave rise to extremism are in place at the turn of this century as they were at the turn of the last, only ten fold ,and the fact is these supposedly sensitive new age attitudes that you've praised are at least partly to blame for a lot of what's going on, as they are ultimately destructive to a cohesive, balanced, enlightened and well adjusted society. Stop living in a dreamworld and open your eyes, son, it's the fall of Rome all over again, and then some.

Holy fwwwwwwwark!!!! What was that sh1t?

Big Brother was axed this year, is society back?

 

[oxx]

I bag the **** out of Joel Bowden.

I believe he is a lazy,complacent SOB and has promoted the same within the ranks of the club.

I believe he believes he is a worthy untouchable but in reality he's an unworthy touchable.

I hate the way he represents our club with mindboggling decisions,ones that bring the overall game into disrepute.

I hate the way people believe he's a CHAMPION(LOL).

He played a couple of good games and will continue to waste a spot on the list until he retires because he couldn't give a ****.

I hate the way people forgive him for a career of crap football because of 2 or 3 games a year.

I feel better.

 

[Dave Stevens]

Hey oxx, what you don't like Joel???
What a bombshell...

There are Kalahari Tribesman that have never heard of the internet that know how you feel about Joel.

 

[Tiger67]

Well your obviously one of those "idiotic bogans" in Top_4_Tiger's nuetered little metrosexual world....

But seriously...his way of thinking, greatly disturbs and frustrates me...



Are you serious? I think that may just be the most laughable load of bollocks I've ever read.Society has never been more dumbed-down than it is now. Most people these days could be convinced that the world is flat, all it would take is a slick advertising campaign or a series of "exposes" on A Current Affair. Half the populace is barely literate.Go read this forum for starters, if you need any proof. People can't even be arsed to spell basic words like "you" and "to" or properly articulate that they find something amusing , instead resorting to using childish acronyms.(And some them aren't just kids and are actually old enough to know better..they know who they are....)

Notions of "positive reinforcement" and "self esteem" are nothing but vacuous Southern Californian psycho-babble and double-speak. That crap is why we see so many delusional kids who can't carry a tune audition for Idol and why idiotic shows like that and Big Brother are popular. Why our schools are a joke. Western society is in a state of decline and on the verge of collapse, rotting with moral,spiritual and intellectual decay. People everywhere living beyond their means, brainwashed and blinded by empty materialism and embarking on worthless pursuits, leading meaningless lives and obssessed with the trivial. Weakness, decadence and stupidity is celebrated and encouraged like never before. The glib and the shallow are worshipped. The only thing shrinking faster than the world itself is our attention spans, at the opposite end of the spectrum everyone's sense of entitlement is only growing at the same rapid rate.

Sure some questionable ideas of the past are now rightly redundant, but in reality the babies that were common sense and noble values have by and large been thrown out with the bathwater of those incorrigable bigotries and backwards schools of thought in our rush to cleanse our consciences of both real and perceived injustices of before.The ignorance of old has merely been replaced by new kinds, if anything , more subtle and insidious. Basic manners and human decency have virtually no currency, real debate and opinion is ever increasingly surpressed, marginalised and shouted down as is a genuine diversity of thought....and I haven't even scratched the surface.
The last century was the most violent in human history, but it was a just a dress rehearsal for this one, all the same conditions that gave rise to extremism are in place at the turn of this century as they were at the turn of the last, only ten fold ,and the fact is these supposedly sensitive new age attitudes that you've praised are at least partly to blame for a lot of what's going on, as they are ultimately destructive to a cohesive, balanced, enlightened and well adjusted society. Stop living in a dreamworld and open your eyes, son, it's the fall of Rome all over again, and then some.

Great post MS.
It was interesting to read the couple of posts straight after it.
Confirmation that you hit the nail right on the head.

 

[Spielvogel]

i dont post here often, but your all nuts

 

[mhill]

Great post MS.
It was interesting to read the couple of posts straight after it.
Confirmation that you hit the nail right on the head.

If you bothered to read half the shit that he writes you would see that:-

1. He is guilty of half the crap he wrote in that post
2. The post is a typical rant of a person who only sees the negative of others before those of himself.

But hey its a free country.

 

[im a legend]

I bag the **** out of Joel Bowden.

I believe he is a lazy,complacent SOB and has promoted the same within the ranks of the club.

I believe he believes he is a worthy untouchable but in reality he's an unworthy touchable.

I hate the way he represents our club with mindboggling decisions,ones that bring the overall game into disrepute.

I hate the way people believe he's a CHAMPION(LOL).

He played a couple of good games and will continue to waste a spot on the list until he retires because he couldn't give a ****.

I hate the way people forgive him for a career of crap football because of 2 or 3 games a year.

I feel better.

Get a life and stop bagging Joel Bowden

 

[Peter SasseGum]

Posters who regularly bag the same players prove that they really don't know a whole loat about football.

A club is made of of 22 players, all with different skills, capabilities (natural or otherwise) and are up against a different team every week

This makes it difficult to single out certain players week in week out for critcism, as each game and every piece of game play is unique.

The beauty of our current coaching staff is that they can see past these idiocrasies and keep the whole side on track, week in, week out.

Well done to TW and his team for being such great captains of the good ship Richmond, steering it towards the shore of permiership success

 

[oxx]

Posters who regularly bag the same players prove that they really don't know a whole loat about football.

A club is made of of 22 players, all with different skills, capabilities (natural or otherwise) and are up against a different team every week

This makes it difficult to single out certain players week in week out for critcism, as each game and every piece of game play is unique.

Idealist.....

 

[boodsyboy]

Peter sassgum WTF good ship Richmond lollipops all round for the boys nice.
So TW next time we cop a flogging and players are missing in action dont say nasty words just give them a big girly kiss on the bottom and everything will be alright.

well done TW and the coaching staff for keeping everything warm and fuzzy on the good ship Richmond.

 

[CoggaRules]

Interesting topic when viewed in the context of the following article:

Plenty of 'good old fashioned bakes' for them still on the fan sites...be interesting to know how many read them occasionally...hopefully none.

The article is also interesting to ponder for those who complain Wallace seldom gives the players a public spray at 1/4 and 3/4 time. Maybe he's been smart enough to work out (faster than some of his fellow coaches) the 'new mentality' of players and changed his coaching persona from Year of the Dogs firebrand Terry to something altogether different.

And maybe he still is pretty 'old style' behind closed doors, and that is a source of friction with some.

I'd guess it would be the former.

"I had not been at Carlton long before I realised I would have to modify my ways," Pagan says.

"I had confronted a senior player about eradicating his bad habit of gaining cunning 'handball receives' across the back.

"As I spoke to him I could see him wilting in front of my eyes. It was as if he had never been spoken to like that before.

When did Wayne Campbell play for them?

 

[1980]

Interesting topic when viewed in the context of the following article:

Plenty of 'good old fashioned bakes' for them still on the fan sites...be interesting to know how many read them occasionally...hopefully none.

The article is also interesting to ponder for those who complain Wallace seldom gives the players a public spray at 1/4 and 3/4 time. Maybe he's been smart enough to work out (faster than some of his fellow coaches) the 'new mentality' of players and changed his coaching persona from Year of the Dogs firebrand Terry to something altogether different.

And maybe he still is pretty 'old style' behind closed doors, and that is a source of friction with some.

I'd guess it would be the former.

The problem with AFL is that it is such an inward looking sport. Compare other codes and countries such as English Premier League, NFL etc and you will find more often than not the most successful coaches are in charge, not the players.

And how many games did Pagan win at Carlton with his new age coaching methods anyway?

 

[1980]

They make it sound like everyone was tougher and better in the good old days.

The reality is, the population is becoming more intelligent. They need rational reasons, they need answers; not mindless abuse.

It's a fact that humans respond better to positive reinforcement.

The only types who respond to primative, caveman-like talk are idiot bogans working overtime to understand what was just said.

Gen Y >>> Gen X

Spoken like a guy who is scared of his boss at work