Barlow

[E Shed]

It's extremely unlikely we would be training at Freo if the Oval was in any way substandard.
DeBoer is quoted today in the West saying Mick is fine, it's just precautionary so he's cherry ripe for Rd 1.
http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/sport/a/-/sport/12946422/de-boer-promises-tougher-freo/

 

[Superkoops]

I dunno really. It's just some nagging feeling that I have and a nagging doubt not to mention the amount of injuries last year and putting 2 and 2 together

It's hard to be on the oval when you're on the other side of the country but I'd certainly like to put my fears to rest at some stage

I've played quite a few games on Freo oval the last being 5 years ago. It was my last game and I lasted 5mins after being tackled into the ground. I came to sometime after the game. I can assure you the sand under the grass has always been quite hard. Certainly my head felt the hardness. The grass length/thickness on the oval varies depending on what time of the year. At the moment it looks in pretty good nick with regular watering.

I think the grounds in WA are in general quite hard and I reckon a number of the young interstate recruits suffer stress type fractures. Cam Sutcliffe being the one this Pre-Season and young Mitchie last year during the season. Stress fractures are usually a resut of training too hard. Been there and done that. With the amount of running that young Cam has put in since coming to Freo it is no surprise.

Re: Barlow, who hasn't pulled up sore from their first competitive hit out and him coming back from broken leg probably pulled up a little more sore. I support the overly conservative approach. No issue him missing a couple of practice matches. I'd rather see him playing 80 - 100% of the regular season games/finals.

 

[surfsup]

Tinfoil hat type stuff right there. I fail to see what they have to do with each other.

No, you haven't failed to spot the link because there is no real link.
You might call it 'tinfoil' stuff but it's something we've come to expect from The West and Channel 7 over the years. Many times in the past whenever something negative happened with West Coast there shortly pops up some kind of negative story about Fremantle.
This stuff regarding Barlow in my opinion will amount to absolutely nothing. Did it make some hardcore West Coast supporters happy on a grim day after hearing the LeCras news?....probably.

 

[sTeeL]

Hardly. Thats your fellow supporters over at Dockerland.

 

[holy diver]

Eaglesflyinghigh, dockerland..

Every club has its fringe extremist web sites.

 

[93567]

Interesting. I've had my collar bones plated 3 times and never had any problem with restricted movement. The only reason they were taken out is because the doc said if they broke with the plate in it would break at the ends and therefore couldn't be fixed with another plate

You caught me giving the patronising talk Lots of patients (I've only ever seen the public system, so I can't comment on the private case) complain about the plate restricting their movement, so you generally just placate them by saying it's coming out for that reason. Of course, it doesn't restrict movement and it is dangerous to leave in for precisely the reason you give. In fact, all plates are dangerous to leave in.

Barlow had a plate removed, not an IM rod. It is not standard practice to have an IM rod removed, it does not cause the same set of problems as a plate.

P.S. And their shoulder movement is almost always restricted because they haven't been vigilant with their rehab. You can't tell someone that, though.

 

[Jimmy_the_Gent]

Isn't metal harder than bone? Seems like a bit of an unfair advantage.

 

[mayne iac]

You caught me giving the patronising talk Lots of patients (I've only ever seen the public system, so I can't comment on the private case) complain about the plate restricting their movement, so you generally just placate them by saying it's coming out for that reason. Of course, it doesn't restrict movement and it is dangerous to leave in for precisely the reason you give. In fact, all plates are dangerous to leave in.

Barlow had a plate removed, not an IM rod. It is not standard practice to have an IM rod removed, it does not cause the same set of problems as a plate.

P.S. And their shoulder movement is almost always restricted because they haven't been vigilant with their rehab. You can't tell someone that, though.

I had a rod in my femur removed, is that a IM rod?

 

[Arcassius]

So Barlow has a titanium skeleton, how cool is that!

Out of interest, has he said that he's back?

you'll find it was actually adamantium

 

[93567]

I had a rod in my femur removed, is that a IM rod?

Yep. Fractures to the shaft of the femur are unique and often result from very high forces. Treatment is more delicate. Different kettle of fish to the tibia.

Having put some proper thought into all this, though, I've decided that the idea that Barlow ever had an IM rod might be incorrect. The story that was floating around was that it was a mid-to-high fracture of the tibial shaft, which would be treated with an IM rod (and that was the claim). From the original footage, I thought it was a proper "proximal" (high) fracture of the tibial plateau (where the tibia begins to widen up the top). If it was what I originally suspected, then it is unlikely that he ever had an IM rod.

Now that I have put in this thought, I apologise for my posts in this thread. I should have stopped to think.

 

[rgauci]

Yep. Fractures to the shaft of the femur are unique and often result from very high forces. Treatment is more delicate. Different kettle of fish to the tibia.

Having put some proper thought into all this, though, I've decided that the idea that Barlow ever had an IM rod might be incorrect. The story that was floating around was that it was a mid-to-high fracture of the tibial shaft, which would be treated with an IM rod (and that was the claim). From the original footage, I thought it was a proper "proximal" (high) fracture of the tibial plateau (where the tibia begins to widen up the top). If it was what I originally suspected, then it is unlikely that he ever had an IM rod.

Now that I have put in this thought, I apologise for my posts in this thread. I should have stopped to think.

Never had a tibial plateau fracture. Chance of returning from a plateau fracture is borderline zero. Trent Hentschel a good example. From memory was a simple fracture of proximal 3rd of the tibia with accompanying fibula fracture. Might of had a small comminuted part on the posterior aspect.

Don't know how it was managed.

 

[93567]

Never had a tibial plateau fracture. Chance of returning from a plateau fracture is borderline zero. Trent Hentschel a good example. From memory was a simple fracture of proximal 3rd of the tibia with accompanying fibula fracture. Might of had a small comminuted part on the posterior aspect.

Don't know how it was managed.

The reports all talk about the removal of a plate. You do not use a plate unless it is too proximal to the knee to get an IM rod in place (i.e. plateau). Proximal 3rd of diaphysis is distal enough for best practice (IM rod).

 

[hoss]

The reports all talk about the removal of a plate. You do not use a plate unless it is too proximal to the knee to get an IM rod in place (i.e. plateau). Proximal 3rd of diaphysis is distal enough for best practice (IM rod).

That guy from Germany who was quoted earlier in the thread is not the only one with English as a second language - you and Gauci now too!

 

[Frigate]

That guy from Germany who was quoted earlier in the thread is not the only one with English as a second language - you and Gauci now too!

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[BigRang]

you'll find it was actually adamantium

Paha this
Reckon Ryhs Palmer wears a funny shaped helmet and cape in his spare time? Seriously all this talk about plates, and rods, and screws blah blah blah... Everything I've heard about Barlow is that hes been flying in the pre-season! Every club nurses certain players through the NAB and rests others at pre-determined stages of the pre-season so that everyone is peaking for round 1 of the season proper. I've got a mate whos been to a few training session and he reckons he's one of the fittest blokes out there. He was never the fastest bloke out there anyway he uses footy-smarts to get the ball. A broken leg won't affect his ability to read the play.