Beachballs

[Mags]

Cops are pricks end of story...... Whats wrong with a beachball being thrown around? Come on for ****sake.

When I saw cops go for the beachballs yesterday they were on the biggest powertrip I have ever seen.

GET OVER URSELFS.

Mags

 

[blurton]

Beachballs just add to the entertainment at the cricket, let's face it, it's a pretty harmless activity. Seriously, there are much more important public safety issues that the police should be addressing.

 

[Bomber Spirit]

Has anyone ever been hurt with a beach ball? How would it be possible?
Throwing debris into the air can be a safety issue, but nothing wrong with beachballs.

 

[BW]

Heard on the radio that the mexican wave is now banned at im pretty sure the MCG or it might of been Rod Laver Arena. Whats next???

 

[Bomber Spirit]

I'm not a fan of throwing rubbish in the air during the wave, but there's nothing wrong with standing up and waving your arms in the air.
Of course we only do it to boo the members.

 

[Satay Mat]

I go to the cricket at the MCG and at Adelaide oval. A big thing you notice at the G is the amount of rubbish on the ground....blowing across the pitch etc. How does it get there ? Morons throw it in the air and the wind takes it on to the arena.

Seriously, with the support cricket gets from the Adelaide public they should shift games from the MCG to AO. Then open the gates at the G...sell full strength grog and Mags you can go your hardest...through as many beachballs and do as many stupid immature waves as you like...knock yourself out.

At the end of the day it is a cricket match....watch the cricket or piss off.

Satay Mat

 

[Catman]

Originally posted by blueworms
Heard on the radio that the mexican wave is now banned at im pretty sure the MCG or it might of been Rod Laver Arena. Whats next???

How on earth could they ban the Mexican Wave?

Throw everyone out who participates?

There goes your crowd!!

 

[Catman]

Originally posted by Satay Mat
Seriously, with the support cricket gets from the Adelaide public they should shift games from the MCG to AO. Then open the gates at the G...sell full strength grog and Mags you can go your hardest...through as many beachballs and do as many stupid immature waves as you like...knock yourself out.

At the end of the day it is a cricket match....watch the cricket or piss off.

Shift games from the G to AO?

The ACB will never do it. The $$$ they will miss out on from games at the G will never be made up by games at AO.

 

[Catman]

Originally posted by Mags
Cops are pricks end of story...... Whats wrong with a beachball being thrown around? Come on for ****sake.

When I saw cops go for the beachballs yesterday they were on the biggest powertrip I have ever seen.

GET OVER URSELFS.

Mags

I was at the game yesterday as well and the cops were like Seagulls onto a stray chip at the beach.
One kid was thrown out for having beachballs. The cop took the beachballs and kicked the kid who had them, out.
Surely just confiscate the beach balls but why evict the person who had them?

I also saw one cop throw out someone for skulling a beer. How is this endangering the crowd?
Okay he might become drunk, then send him out, but not for a bit of fun which it was. That's what it is, a bit of fun, yet the police or MCC can't see this and have to overuse their power on the softest of incidents.

 

[gPhonque]

Originally posted by Satay Mat
I go to the cricket at the MCG and at Adelaide oval. A big thing you notice at the G is the amount of rubbish on the ground....blowing across the pitch etc. How does it get there ? Morons throw it in the air and the wind takes it on to the arena.

Then throw people out who throw things in the air! Easy.

But don't punish the people there who want to have a bit of fun!

The REASON the crowds these days are getting more restless than they were a few years ago is because they're not allowed to fart now without having 5 idiot cops throw them out for it.

Cricket is not like going to the footy. It goes ALL DAY. Not for 3 hours. And sometimes those days are damn hot. It's only natural that people are going to look for extra ways to have fun. Therefore, instead of slowly destroying these extra things the crowds like to do, we should be letting them have a bit of fun. Sure, throw the idiots out starting fights and throwing things in the air (although i hardly think a bit of water has ever hurt anybody on a hot day - i do realise that's not all that is thrown in the air), but there's nothing wrong with punching a bloody beach ball around. It's harmless fun. If you don't like it, DON'T SIT THERE. End of story.

Why do people such as yourself feel the need to take things away from people who aren't actually hurting you?

The crowd need to be informed as to what they CAN do and what they CAN'T do, and the police should act only on those who are actually CAUSING TROUBLE.

But the last few years, the police have spent more time running around chasing after beachballs than they have actually identifying the REAL troublemakers and ejecting THEM from the ground.

Do you seriously expect a crowd of 60,000+ people to sit still on a hot day ALL day and watch every single ball of the day? Making noise only whenever runs are scored or a wicket is taken?

I'm sure you're not so stupid as to not realise that that will never happen.

The police/security have to stop treating the crowds like idiots. The amount of ridiculous thing people are being thrown out for these days:

Possession of a beach ball
skulling a beer
trying to start a wave
splashing water on their own friends
yelling Aussie Aussie Aussie at the perfectly wrong time. (when it was really quiet - this guy was hilarious. Had the timing of a born comedian. And i usually cringe whenever i hear anything containing the words "Aussie" and "Oi.")

They're just a few of the things i've seen people get thrown out for the past couple of years.

Look at those things - NONE of them are anything more than harmless fun. If they are really pissing you off so much, then you still have two choices - either don't go, or sit somewhere else! There's plenty of decent places to sit where you can get away from all that.

Seriously, with the support cricket gets from the Adelaide public they should shift games from the MCG to AO. Then open the gates at the G...sell full strength grog and Mags you can go your hardest...through as many beachballs and do as many stupid immature waves as you like...knock yourself out.

"Immature"??? I guess that makes the 90% of the crowd who participate in the wave and the punching of the beach balls immature morons then does it?

Get over yourself Satay Chicken. I'm not a yobbo. I don't take beach balls with me to the cricket. I don't throw things into the air during the wave. I don't get pissed and try to skull beers. (god forbid......I might hurt somebody and get thrown out....and besides, i don't drink beer anyway...) I don't swear. I don't start fights. I've never even sat in the middle of the yobbos in my life.

I go to watch the cricket. I don't go to watch "Australia" win. (in fact, i can't stand the Aus Cricket team.) I go to watch THE CRICKET. Doesn't matter who's playing.

But because i might punch the beach ball if it comes around my way, does that make me "immature" also? What about the 100's of families i see jumping up and punching the beach ball? Them too? Immature? Or are they just people trying to have a bit of extra fun?

At the end of the day it is a cricket match....watch the cricket or piss off.

Why are you so intolerant of others? You seem like a very sad person.

 

[The_Flying_Egg]

Originally posted by Catman


Shift games from the G to AO?

You mean turn the One Dayers from a ground that has a great atmosphere and where the crowd is half the fun, to a tiny little pisser of a ground where people wouldn't know fun if it bit them in the arse

 

[Satay Mat]

Originally posted by gPhonque

Then throw people out who throw things in the air! Easy.

But don't punish the people there who want to have a bit of fun!

often they are the same people


The REASON the crowds these days are getting more restless than they were a few years ago is because they're not allowed to fart now without having 5 idiot cops throw them out for it.

so it is some sort of rebellion against authority then ???



Cricket is not like going to the footy. It goes ALL DAY. Not for 3 hours. And sometimes those days are damn hot. It's only natural that people are going to look for extra ways to have fun. Therefore, instead of slowly destroying these extra things the crowds like to do, we should be letting them have a bit of fun. Sure, throw the idiots out starting fights and throwing things in the air (although i hardly think a bit of water has ever hurt anybody on a hot day - i do realise that's not all that is thrown in the air), but there's nothing wrong with punching a bloody beach ball around. It's harmless fun. If you don't like it, DON'T SIT THERE. End of story.



now that is tripe. The boxing day test crowd is quite well behaved. How many pitch invasions did you have during the test match ? 1 ? 0 ? that is a test match which goes for 5 days. If people get bored at a 1 day game then why are they there ? Why ? Because they do not go for the cricket at all. They go to get pissed, throw balls, run on the ground...nothing to do with the cricket at all.



Why do people such as yourself feel the need to take things away from people who aren't actually hurting you?


that is not the question......why do idiots run out on the ground is the question....why do they throw things at players is the question.....why do they start fights is the question. You write as though the people who do this and the people in "bay 13" are different. They are the same people. I think this is no longer a couple of people ruining the fun for everyone. It is a culture, especially at the 1st ODI of the season in Melbourne....a culture which has nothing to do with Cricket. You don't get it at the test matches half as much as the one day games.....why ????

ultimately it is my right to comment on what I think is appropriate behaviour and what is not. I am not asking you to agree but society is all about taking things away from people where it is not in the public good.


The crowd need to be informed as to what they CAN do and what they CAN'T do, and the police should act only on those who are actually CAUSING TROUBLE.

But the last few years, the police have spent more time running around chasing after beachballs than they have actually identifying the REAL troublemakers and ejecting THEM from the ground.



they are...and yet they persist. People know you are not allowed on the ground....it becomes a joke...a competition which was funny once in 1971 but has worn very thin.



Do you seriously expect a crowd of 60,000+ people to sit still on a hot day ALL day and watch every single ball of the day? Making noise only whenever runs are scored or a wicket is taken?

I'm sure you're not so stupid as to not realise that that will never happen.



yes I do.....noise is fine....but disrupting the game, throwing rubbish etc is not on. They don't do it at the test match, they don't do it at the AFL, they don't do it at the Olympics....what is so special about one day cricket that makes these things acceptable ????

The police/security have to stop treating the crowds like idiots. The amount of ridiculous thing people are being thrown out for these days:

Possession of a beach ball
skulling a beer
trying to start a wave
splashing water on their own friends
yelling Aussie Aussie Aussie at the perfectly wrong time. (when it was really quiet - this guy was hilarious. Had the timing of a born comedian. And i usually cringe whenever i hear anything containing the words "Aussie" and "Oi.")

They're just a few of the things i've seen people get thrown out for the past couple of years.

Look at those things - NONE of them are anything more than harmless fun. If they are really pissing you off so much, then you still have two choices - either don't go, or sit somewhere else! There's plenty of decent places to sit where you can get away from all that.


"Immature"??? I guess that makes the 90% of the crowd who participate in the wave and the punching of the beach balls immature morons then does it?

Get over yourself Satay Chicken. I'm not a yobbo. I don't take beach balls with me to the cricket. I don't throw things into the air during the wave. I don't get pissed and try to skull beers. (god forbid......I might hurt somebody and get thrown out....and besides, i don't drink beer anyway...) I don't swear. I don't start fights. I've never even sat in the middle of the yobbos in my life.

I go to watch the cricket. I don't go to watch "Australia" win. (in fact, i can't stand the Aus Cricket team.) I go to watch THE CRICKET. Doesn't matter who's playing.

But because i might punch the beach ball if it comes around my way, does that make me "immature" also? What about the 100's of families i see jumping up and punching the beach ball? Them too? Immature? Or are they just people trying to have a bit of extra fun?


Why are you so intolerant of others? You seem like a very sad person.

not really interested in personal abuse actually.


Satay Mat

 

[Mr Ripper]

I'm with ftmch on this one.

 

[gPhonque]

originally posted by Satay Mat
not really interested in personal abuse actually.

First things first - i apologize. I shouldn't have said that. I guess i was a bit pissed off. Sorry.

Originally posted by Satay Mat
often they are the same people

Absolutely - you could even say that all of the troublemakers who act like idiots are there to have fun.

But no matter how you look at it, the majority of people at the ground are there to have fun as well. And the majority don't act like meatheads either.

Look at the amount of people at the ground who participate in the mexican wave. I'd guess it's about 75% of people there. Therefore, why are the police constantly trying to ban it?

The majority of the crowd is being punished by the police, and all because of a small group of idiots.

I truly believe that if the police were to ease up on the crowd, there's be less trouble. I'm not going to guarantee that there would be NO trouble - just as the police could not guarantee there'd be no trouble. But i feel that if the crowd were still allowed to enjoy the day a little more, then i believe there'd be a lot less people looking for "trouble."

Look - i don't particularly care for the wave. I don't care for the beach balls. I'll still participate if they come my way, but it's not what i go to the cricket for. But no matter what you or i go there for, a big percentage of the crowd go for the occasion - the party type atmosphere.

And that atmosphere has been a tradition at one day cricket for quite a while now. And the more the police take it away from the spectators, then the more people are going to find other more damaging things to do.

so it is some sort of rebellion against authority then ???

Of course it is! Why else do you think they do it?

They know they're going to get caught if they run onto the ground. But they still do it. And when you think about it, all they're really saying when they do it is a big "F#$K YOU" to the police. Of course it's a rebellion against authority!

And the attitude of the police is NOT making it any better.

now that is tripe. The boxing day test crowd is quite well ehaved. How many pitch invasions did you have during the test match ? 1 ? 0 ? that is a test match which goes for 5 days. If people get bored at a 1 day game then why are they there ? Why ? Because they do not go for the cricket at all. They go to get pissed, throw balls, run on the ground...nothing to do with the cricket at all.

All fair points. But one-day cricket attracts a different crowd to test cricket. A lot of people are there for the party, and not just the cricket. And i see nothing wrong with that as long as they're not hurting anybody! And in my opinion, the things i mentioned in my earlier post (beach balls, splashing water etc) are NOT hurting anybody.

that is not the question......why do idiots run out on the ground is the question....why do they throw things at players is the question.....why do they start fights is the question. You write as though the people who do this and the people in "bay 13" are different. They are the same people. I think this is no longer a couple of people ruining the fun for everyone. It is a culture, especially at the 1st ODI of the season in Melbourne....a culture which has nothing to do with Cricket. You don't get it at the test matches half as much as the one day games.....why ????

Because they're restless. The beach balls are gone. They're pissed. There's nothing else to do. And i know you're going to say "they could watch the cricket".

But that's not going to happen. Hey, it would be fantastic if it did! But it's not. That's why the police need to back down a little. Punching a beach ball is not hurting anybody - why do they spend half the day chasing them down then? Is that what our taxes are paying for??? What a waste of time. Time that, as i said, could be used for more constructive things like throwing the actual troublemakers out. And i don't believe a 14 year old with a beach ball is a troublemaker. Yet that is who they are throwing out.

ultimately it is my right to comment on what I think is appropriate behaviour and what is not. I am not asking you to agree but society is all about taking things away from people where it is not in the public good.

Well, again - how many people participate in the mexican wave? Easily more than half the ground. (as i said above - my guess would be 75%) Therefore, is banning the mexican wave actually for the GOOD of the public? The majority of people at the ground participate, yet they're banning it?

Not very logical.

they are...and yet they persist. People know you are not allowed on the ground....it becomes a joke...a competition which was funny once in 1971 but has worn very thin.

You don't need to tell me that.

But we need to prevent it from happening. And running around after beach balls is not helping it.

yes I do.....noise is fine....but disrupting the game, throwing rubbish etc is not on. They don't do it at the test match, they don't do it at the AFL, they don't do it at the Olympics....what is so special about one day cricket that makes these things acceptable ????

I don't know. What IS so special about one day cricket that makes these things acceptable? I don't believe they're acceptable. Do you? Why are you asking me this? I thought it would be fairly apparent that i don't believe these things are acceptable.

Again, the key is to prevent these things from happening.

A combination of the police easing up on the harmless fun, and at the same time bringing in heavier fines for those that are acting dangerously (throwing things/pitch invasions etc) would do the trick.

Let the crowd know that harmless fun is ok, but troublemakers will be dealt with extremely severely. At the moment, the crowd really aren't allowed to do a thing. And that is what i believe is the main factor in the increase in dangerous behaviour.

cheers

 

[Satay Mat]

no worries...apology accepted.....git


here is where it sits for me....


if people want to do the wave once or twice a game then I can live with that. If people want to throw a beach ball, without hitting it over the fence (clearly hard) then I can live with that (although I think it is not possible). However the biggest chears are always when a ball goes over the fence and a player sends it back....so even that is disruptive as what do you think the next thing the crowd do ?

But essentially if you can do it walking down a street then you should be able to do it at the cricket....without disrupting the game.

These things are not on.....

1. throwing rubbish....especially during the wave. Most of it ends up on the grond and disrupts the game. Can't do it outside so why at the cricket ?

2. throwing water. If I walked past you on the street and threw a container of water in your face you would have me locked up. Being at the cricket is no different.

3. running on the pitch.

4. throwing things at players.

Now....most people would agree with 4 and 3...and there would be debate over 1 & 2. My point is that the ringleaders of 1&2 are the same people as those doing 3&4. So stop the lot of them. Shift the games to Adelaide to prove your point. Yes this disadvantages the majority but sends a clear message.

As someone said earlier this will never happen because of the almighty dollar but it is a useful point nonetheless.

Ultimately it is a culture....you can't stop that by enforcing one part of the behaviour....you need to stop the culture. The people of Melbourne who go to the MCG for the cricket need to stand up and say that they find it unacceptale....and maybe the threat of losing games to another city may shift them out of their apathy.

Satay Mat

 

[Catman]

Originally posted by The_Flying_Egg


You mean turn the One Dayers from a ground that has a great atmosphere and where the crowd is half the fun, to a tiny little pisser of a ground where people wouldn't know fun if it bit them in the arse

I think you misinterpreted my message Egg. I was sarcastically having a go at whoever suggested moving games from the G to the Adelaide Oval. I'm with you, the atmosphere at the G is awesome and I loved every moment of it on Sunday and it would be downright stupid if they moved games from the G to the AO.

 

[The Hippie]

Here's a novel idea, take all your beachballs to the beach!! There, you can have all the fun you want, and do all the Mexican waves you like.

BTW, how do you know it's all water the fools are tossing around? It wouldn't be beyond them (or beneath some) to p*ss in the empty water bottles and throw them around.

 

[The_Flying_Egg]

Originally posted by Satay Mat


Ultimately it is a culture....you can't stop that by enforcing one part of the behaviour....you need to stop the culture. The people of Melbourne who go to the MCG for the cricket need to stand up and say that they find it unacceptale....and maybe the threat of losing games to another city may shift them out of their apathy.

Satay Mat

The people who go to the cricket for a bit of fun, should stand up to the kid beating Pigs in blue who kick people out for using the word ****, for putting water on their best friends, for standing on seats, for punching a ball and for starting a mexican wave