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Re: Cousins - a bit of perspective.

Mooney_d'King said:
If that's true then it's easy to speculate that the valium was for the come-down. The telling point is that he refused drug testing.
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This is so true i dont think alot of people know about come-down drugs, after taking drugs like ICE or SMACK you have a massive come down and you feel low as shit so alot of users take drugs like Valium to help ease there way into it. Hope that halps anyone :thumbsu:
 
He is a drug addict what sort of employer would willfully employ a drug addict? Add to the fact that Geelong has no major need for him. Why would a successful club want to take on such a liability.

Ben must first cure his addiction before h can begin to organise any other aspects of his life.
 
catpounce said:
He is a drug addict what sort of employer would willfully employ a drug addict? Add to the fact that Geelong has no major need for him. Why would a successful club want to take on such a liability.

Ben must first cure his addiction before h can begin to organise any other aspects of his life.
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Um 30+ possesion player,everyone would have to agree he is a gun onfield prob in the best 5 in the AFL when hes up and going, we dont need him but some other clubs could do wonders with him, Imagine him at the Dogs or tiges.
 

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bigdroppunt said:
Um 30+ possesion player,everyone would have to agree he is a gun onfield prob in the best 5 in the AFL when hes up and going, we dont need him but some other clubs could do wonders with him, Imagine him at the Dogs or tiges.
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does the risk outweigh the benefits of getting 2 or 3 years at most out of him? perhaps, but i think health in this instance will prevail and force him into retirement. (that's if he can now retire after being sacked)
 
We dont need him. Why in gods name would be want to bring truble to a club taht is going extremley well at the moment, it just wont happen.

I wish him al lthe best in his recovery
 
Ammo Man said:
No way. At thirty I think it's the end for Ben. What a waste. Really feel for Bryan.
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Ok his 28 and his still here. As a footy player he has achieved alot for himself but as a person he has made many mistakes. I don't like the bloke at all but bagging him for making mistakes in his life is just not right. I think that he gets that he needs help and that he has problems. I don't even know why the need for this thread was done? Why does this concern Geelong? And i think that anyone who thinks that every cats player is a golden boy should get ur head out of the clouds. May i remind you of Mackie and Stevie J!!! Anyway i know i may be bagged for my opinion but i don't care, look at it as person not as a footy supporter! Best wishes for Ben to get his life back.
 
eliiiiza said:
Because it's a football discussion board, and this is a huge discussion at the moment.
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As of now he is not an AFL player and its not really about footy its his life and i don't see the need to post something just to bag someone who has a drug addiction footy player or not.
 

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Cat_Lady19 said:
As of now he is not an AFL player and its not really about footy its his life and i don't see the need to post something just to bag someone who has a drug addiction footy player or not.
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i think it was more aimed at if we would try and get him.
 
From The Age (http://realfooty.com.au/news/news/police-drop-cousins-drug-charge/2007/10/19/1192301010101.html):

Meanwhile, prescription drugs including diazepam, oxycontin and Viagra were found in the car that Cousins was driving when he was arrested, West Australian police said today.

WA Assistant Commissioner for Special Crimes, Wayne Gregson, said police had dropped the one drug possession charge against Cousins on advice from the Director of Public Prosecutions (DPP).

Mr Gregson said a diazepam, or Valium, pill was found on Cousins, but the DPP said that it was only a prohibited drug in a liquid, injectable form.

However he said several other drugs were also found in the car, in which there were also two passengers.

"The following drugs were seized from the vehicle: oxycontin, which is a prohibited drug, diazepam, Viagra ... and a $20 note which preliminary indications and analysis show traces of MDMA, which is ecstasy and cocaine," Mr Gregson said.

Cousins now faces one charge of refusing a test for narcotics whilst driving.
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Pussys said:
benny is a champ
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there is somthing so suss about this shit, My old man rekons benny refused a club drug test all so, and they club dumped him so he may of had a chance at another club. the more i think about it,It dosnt sound too far off beliveable.
 

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bigdroppunt said:
there is somthing so suss about this shit, My old man rekons benny refused a club drug test all so, and they club dumped him so he may of had a chance at another club. the more i think about it,It dosnt sound too far off beliveable.
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yer ive also heard this
 
Stoney said:
Yeah good call :thumbsd: hopefully someone close to u at some stage in ur ignorant life has a drug problem... maybe then u'd show a little compassion instead of making out that ben wanted all this sh!te to go wrong.

If he could the last 24 months of his life he would, once ur in over ur head - its hard to get out... and losers like u dont make the process any easier.
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what are you on about? ben cousins is a winner off the field but he is a loser off it.

he had a chance and he blew it. end of story.

and for the record i have lost a family member to addiction so dont be so quick to jump to conclusions you parrot.
 
Re: Cousins - a bit of perspective.

MmkMrMackie said:
Judging by our trades involving Gardiner and King, we're in the business of doing favours... What bigger favour could we do for Cousins' dad than to take Ben in. We'd get him cheap, and he is after all a brownlow medallist.
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The only way - absolute only way - I'd take him would be some sort of arrangement where he would play VFL for a year basically for subsistence wages. No f*** ups and he gets the chance to compete for a senior position, which wouldn't be at market rates but would be at a reasonable price. Screw up at any time and he's delisted for life with no chance of ever playing any role in football ever again. Contact with any of his old mates - gone. ANy instance of non-cooperation with police - gone. If he can't compete for a position, he doesn't get one. And I'd expect him to go to the ACC and explain in one of their hearings everything he knows about those he's been hanging around with.

Of course you've got to look at whether that would be viable given his age and how many years he's got left. Personally, if it came off, I think it would be good for everyone - he gets a chance away from the environment over there, we get a chance to pick up a handy player, and the AFL gets the chance to turn what is at the moment a disaster on every level into something that could be a positive story. Frankly even if he never played a senior game but was just straightened outand contributed to the VFL team it would be worth while.

I don't like Ben Cousins in any way. I don't think he deserves another chance. I don't see him as a victim of anything but his own stupidity (and that of the Eagles and the AFL, who seem to think that a couple of weeks at a health spa is the cure for an addiction). But if you can turn something into a positive then I think it's worth considering. Our premiership was built on hard work, discipline and persistence, and he has to realise that's what he needs.
 
Re: Cousins - a bit of perspective.

Brasil2007 said:
The only way - absolute only way - I'd take him would be some sort of arrangement where he would play VFL for a year basically for subsistence wages. No f*** ups and he gets the chance to compete for a senior position, which wouldn't be at market rates but would be at a reasonable price. Screw up at any time and he's delisted for life with no chance of ever playing any role in football ever again. Contact with any of his old mates - gone. ANy instance of non-cooperation with police - gone. If he can't compete for a position, he doesn't get one. And I'd expect him to go to the ACC and explain in one of their hearings everything he knows about those he's been hanging around with.

Of course you've got to look at whether that would be viable given his age and how many years he's got left. Personally, if it came off, I think it would be good for everyone - he gets a chance away from the environment over there, we get a chance to pick up a handy player, and the AFL gets the chance to turn what is at the moment a disaster on every level into something that could be a positive story. Frankly even if he never played a senior game but was just straightened outand contributed to the VFL team it would be worth while.

I don't like Ben Cousins in any way. I don't think he deserves another chance. I don't see him as a victim of anything but his own stupidity (and that of the Eagles and the AFL, who seem to think that a couple of weeks at a health spa is the cure for an addiction). But if you can turn something into a positive then I think it's worth considering. Our premiership was built on hard work, discipline and persistence, and he has to realise that's what he needs.
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The bolded part would be a good way to get himself killed.

But agree with the rest
 

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