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#26
Bet the Cats fans are happy he never went to the Cats under the father son 10 years back (whenever it was) although he would've been away from the media hype of Perth if he was in Geelong.
 

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#28
Just when I think you can't post anything more foolish you surpass yourself. You've just effectively cast aspersions on every Geelong player.
I'm not saying there are Geelong players as deeply involved in drugs and hte underworld as Ben Cousins, but only a fool would believe that no players at their club have done drugs at a nightclub.
 

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That's addiction for you, it is the only thing that could explain him getting busted for possession a week and a day after he has buried one of his friends who died from a suspected drug overdose :( I hope he gets the help he needs.
 
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#30
I definitely don't want him at Geelong.
He's dumb. He's arrogant. He's a drug user.
He's 29. He's blown it big time.

Brilliant player but that's not enough, nowhere near.

The Cats proved this year what can be done in creating a team culture where no-one was more important than the team, Not Gazza, Not Moons, Not Steve J, no-one.

Cousins has shown that he is a law unto himself. He would undermine all of the positive culture at Geelong.
No other club should touch him either but if I was a betting man I'd say he'll end up at the Bulldogs if anywhere, they showed they were willing to take a risk on flawed geniuses when they signed Akermanis.

But I honestly think BC"s AFL career is over.

Worsfold must be SPEWING MAD!

Judd got out just in time!
 

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#32
Right, I'm an idiot just because you disagree with what I said...

So you're saying we should just accept his attitude and drug problems just because he has talent? Because there's no way even Geelong could change his problems, seriously what would we do? Suspend him for 6 weeks like Dog? I doubt that would help, c'mon he's been to rehab and that didn't help. What sort of punishment could a club inflict that would actually make a difference to such a problem, both attitude and substance?
I honestly don't think we need druggies and controversy bringing down a perfectly good club.
Suspending him or punishsing him would do nothing. He has serious substance abuse issues. THe last thing the club would want to do is send him back to train with the VFL like dog.
 

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#34
You're dreaming if you think that none of the guys at Geelong are into it. I'd take Cousins in a heart beat.
As stupid as this sounds... I'm not going to justify it by agreeing, but this is a valid point that we would be niaeve (spelling) to overlook.

I know of 3-4 very high profile footballers who have used illicit drugs from others clubs that u wouldnt suspect - and no to all the idiots who ask - im not going to name names so dont ask for a source.

Sure we like to think that our entire club is faultless (and I agree - on the surface it appears so), but I think drug use is widespread and by no means confined to the WCE.

I agree why Geelong wouldnt take Cousins, but I personally would take him as from my personal experiences in life - i do not play better or worse bcoz my teammates have alcohol or drug problems, nor do i fall for the excuse that its a bad influence on younger guys - younger guys are 18 at least - which means they are accountable for there own actions.

I didnt bcom a drug addict bcoz there was an opportunity (who at 18-21 doesnt know ppl who regularly use???) and to all those in my situation who have taken the different path - its an absolute discrace by saying it was someone else's fault u got hooked on the sh!te.

Based on his profession and his willingness to apply himself to preparing himself for his occupation - Cousins is second to none. He is arguably the best endurance runner in the AFL - so dont go saying he isnt committed bcoz thats absolute bullsh!t.

Hopefully a club gives Benny a break, but unless he removes himself from WA i cant see him radically changing his lifestyle.
 
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#35
I don't think he deserves a break - he was given one and failed miserably - he can suffer for his mistakes - it's not like he wasn't told what would happen. He had choices and he made his - pity he took the stupid one, but now has to live and deal with it...stupid idiot....
 

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#36
I would take Laurence Angwin before Cousins......his AFL career is done and dusted my friend.

If he was to come to Geelong (will never happen) it would have to be for peanuts and the first sign of trouble he'd be out the door.
 

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#37
sack him, everyone has bent over backwards to try and help him and this is how he repays them.
 
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As stupid as this sounds... I'm not going to justify it by agreeing, but this is a valid point that we would be niaeve (spelling) to overlook.

I know of 3-4 very high profile footballers who have used illicit drugs from others clubs that u wouldnt suspect - and no to all the idiots who ask - im not going to name names so dont ask for a source.

Sure we like to think that our entire club is faultless (and I agree - on the surface it appears so), but I think drug use is widespread and by no means confined to the WCE.

I agree why Geelong wouldnt take Cousins, but I personally would take him as from my personal experiences in life - i do not play better or worse bcoz my teammates have alcohol or drug problems, nor do i fall for the excuse that its a bad influence on younger guys - younger guys are 18 at least - which means they are accountable for there own actions.

I didnt bcom a drug addict bcoz there was an opportunity (who at 18-21 doesnt know ppl who regularly use???) and to all those in my situation who have taken the different path - its an absolute discrace by saying it was someone else's fault u got hooked on the sh!te.

Based on his profession and his willingness to apply himself to preparing himself for his occupation - Cousins is second to none. He is arguably the best endurance runner in the AFL - so dont go saying he isnt committed bcoz thats absolute bullsh!t.

Hopefully a club gives Benny a break, but unless he removes himself from WA i cant see him radically changing his lifestyle.
Who would have suspected Joey Johns?
 

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#42
If he does go into the PSD and Cousins ends up at Geelong I will not be happy.
We don't need someone with that attitude around our club.

I agree. We have things going right at the moment, and don't need these elements here.

I didn't want Chris Judd either, but for different reasons, that being that WCE would have wanted someone akin to Bartel or Gary Ablett in exchange, and we should try to keep our premiership team together as much as we can.

I'm now glad that Geelong didn't get Ben Cousins under the father-son rule. His father, John Cousins, played enough games for Geelong, but AFL manipulated the rules so that West Coast coud get him first. This used to annoy me, but I'm glad now. His indiscretions this year would have derailed our season, and we wouldn't have won the flag.

The funny thing is, maybe West Coast should have punished Cousins by having his teammates impose the penalty. Geelong did this with Steve Johnson, and you know the rest. WCE failed to punish Cousins earlier, Collingwood didn't suspend Didak for associating with that gunman, and yet Geelong's discipline measure worked. So much for Geelong not having "leadership".
 

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#43
Cousins stood no cance with all that is going on over there
the media have not reported half the stuff

he is a regular with the bikkie gangs, strippers (with kevin), and has substance issues
look at the eagles and everywhere he turned he was in trouble
embey should be named captain and kerr traded as well
 
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#44
Cousins - a bit of perspective.

I know a lot of you love to hate the bloke, but have a look at this photo and see if you still feel the same way.



It's sad, and you've got to feel for the bloke and his family. Had it all, but got caught up with the wrong crowd and ****ed things up.
 
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Re: Cousins - a bit of perspective.

I don't love to hate him. In fact, if any club could, I reckon Geelong could help him turn his life around with a good atmosphere. Tom Harley I think could really help straighten him out.
 
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Re: Cousins - a bit of perspective.

I don't love to hate him. In fact, if any club could, I reckon Geelong could help him turn his life around with a good atmosphere. Tom Harley I think could really help straighten him out.
Exactly. If Cousins' dad made a plea to the club to give his son a chance and help him get his life back on track, I'd be more than happy to have Cousins at Geelong.
 

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#47
Re: Cousins - a bit of perspective.

You can't just keep giving him another chance... he is obviously a bit screwed up... I would want to put Cousin's on suicide watch in the next few weeks haha.
 
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Re: Cousins - a bit of perspective.

You can't just keep giving him another chance... he is obviously a bit screwed up... I would want to put Cousin's on suicide watch in the next few weeks haha.
He's been caught with Valium for christ's sake!

What's the Lions and Saint's boys did to that bloke outside the Prince of Wales was 100 times more serious.
 
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I agree. We have things going right at the moment, and don't need these elements here.

I didn't want Chris Judd either, but for different reasons, that being that WCE would have wanted someone akin to Bartel or Gary Ablett in exchange, and we should try to keep our premiership team together as much as we can.

I'm now glad that Geelong didn't get Ben Cousins under the father-son rule. His father, John Cousins, played enough games for Geelong, but AFL manipulated the rules so that West Coast coud get him first. This used to annoy me, but I'm glad now. His indiscretions this year would have derailed our season, and we wouldn't have won the flag.

The funny thing is, maybe West Coast should have punished Cousins by having his teammates impose the penalty. Geelong did this with Steve Johnson, and you know the rest. WCE failed to punish Cousins earlier, Collingwood didn't suspend Didak for associating with that gunman, and yet Geelong's discipline measure worked. So much for Geelong not having "leadership".
It is just impossible to know if Cousins, as a Geelong player, would have gone down the same path. Who you hang around with, especially as you're developing, can have a huge impact on what you get up to. As rainmaker said, Cousins stood no chance with all that is going on over there.
 
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