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how many games does this bloke have to get in the best before he gets a go its a joke that he hasnt had a call up considering 9 new players have this year he isnt 1 of MM favourities we all know that but seriously its just unfair on this bloke use might not rate him but he doesnt get given a chance he derserves a shot
 
I was also thinking the same thing.
He is consistently in the best and has been for alot of the year but is yet to get a senior game.
If he does not get a another chance to prove himself i will be fairly dissapointed, considering collingwoods recent performances.
Ben should be on the fringe of senior selection IMO:thumbsu:........
 
BEEG said:
how many games does this bloke have to get in the best before he gets a go its a joke that he hasnt had a call up considering 9 new players have this year he isnt 1 of MM favourities we all know that but seriously its just unfair on this bloke use might not rate him but he doesnt get given a chance he derserves a shot
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Well im sure we can expect him to appear next year? Still, If he makes it within the next two games and proves he has what it takes. Give him all the support we can because we need to lift these guys games up!
 
But he shouldnt have to get his shot becasue we are very much out of form this blokes been in form all year toovey hadnt had 1 good game since coming back into the willy team he played 1 ok game 2 weeks ago and gets a call up could you imagine how hed be feeling MM has to put his arrigance aside and give these players a shot when performing and stop looking after his favourites
 

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Been in the best 7 times this year not to bad id like to see these other blokes that get calls up and see how many times they have been in the best
 
Id delist toovey Hollond licuria before i delist davies look at Iacobucci didnt give him a go has been nest 14 out of 17 games
 
Some good points but dont forget the Northern Bullants have been top few in the past 3 years and carlton have won the spoon. Therefore, great VFL players do not equate to AFL players. Yes he deserves a chance above a few but i think he has been identified as simply not good enough (which they are probably working out with Toov at the moment too)
 
Winning AFL premierships has nothing to do with having good VFL players. That is why Woewodin and Jason Cloke are no longer on the list.
 
Barwick17 said:
Some good points but dont forget the Northern Bullants have been top few in the past 3 years and carlton have won the spoon. Therefore, great VFL players do not equate to AFL players. Yes he deserves a chance above a few but i think he has been identified as simply not good enough (which they are probably working out with Toov at the moment too)
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On the other hand the VFL has been a breeding ground for late developers - Ben Hudson and Josh Mahoney two of the more notable examples. Its a requirement to play well in the VFL, and Davies has done that. I dont know what more he's supposed to do to break the stereotype that he's only a VFL player.
 
If Toovey supposedly deserved a chance last week then one would think Ben should get a run this week.

Our success this year has been about giving guys a chance to show something while they have form behind them. I've got no problems rolling the dice this week with Rusling, Davies, and Wellingham just for starters.
 
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Winning AFL premierships has nothing to do with having good VFL players. That is why Woewodin and Jason Cloke are no longer on the list.
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Its better to have good VFL players than crap ones. If at the end of the year Davies has shown more than the likes of Licuria, Holland,Stanley and Toovey, then maybe he deserves the benefit of the doubt. I still think he will miss the cut, but I do confess he's done everything possible to extend his career.
 

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if you look thrue our possension count this week for all the players not 1 player had over 20 davies is a ball winner and gets plenty of it he hasnt got bad leg speed and his skills arnt to bad look at licuria toovey and obree holland all are slow all have horrible kicking mostly kicking the footy 50meters in the air to our forwards why not give davies a shot hed be better then those 4
 
Timmy from Thomastown said:
Its better to have good VFL players than crap ones. If at the end of the year Davies has shown more than the likes of Licuria, Holland,Stanley and Toovey, then maybe he deserves the benefit of the doubt. I still think he will miss the cut, but I do confess he's done everything possible to extend his career.
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So did Jason Cloke. It comes down to whether he has worked on and improved his deficiencies. In the current environment it is doubtful Tony Shaw would have lasted long enough. It is very cut throat when you have small lists a compulsory cull and a salary cap. I am happy for him to get a crack this week and if he performs to stay in the side and remain on the list. I am skeptical though.
 
We could have played him earlier in the season when we were debuting kids.
Personally, I don't think MM rates him, but that's my opinion.
 
I think people are really underrating the jump between vfl level and afl level. Ben is great at vfl level to my understanding always has been but at afl level looks like a fish out of water really struggles to keep up with the game and his skills do not warrant him playing as a reciever. I think Mick has made his mind up that Davies is not up to it at AFL level hence no chances, although i think with the doubt over licca going on next year that may be his chance to get an extra year to proove his worth at AFL level. IMO Laccabouci however you spell it will never be up to afl level bulked up way to much in the last year of his 18's career and over his career at the pies
 

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Well i watched Fridays night game and surely he deserves a spot above Toovey. Altho i know Ben so have biased opinion, he works his arse off a deserves at least a game to prove he can play AFL footy, especially above this toovey guy after Friday. Ben works reli hard and has had a reli good year in the VFL. Yes VFL to AFL is a massive jump and maybs Ben can make that jump, but at least give him the chance. He will work his arse off to make that jump!
 
There is no doubting his VFL form or commitment and effort and maybe Licca and Toovey have given him a chance to extend his career as if the both go and with his vfl form and our shortage of mids he may be kept on the list. But as i said i am pretty sure he has always been good at VFL level and i am not sure if its something he can really improve to much he doesn't have any real assets that are at AFL standards he is GOOD at a lot of things which makes him exceptional at VFL level i just doubt he will ever take that form into afl i don't think he has those skills/tools that said i hope he prooves me wrong would be great for him and the club
 
We didnt have a plaer get more then 20 possesions and the week before againts carlton i think we had 2 just over 20 football is a possesion game davies get plenty of the ball put 2 and 2 togther and give him a chance play him instead oin licuria we cant have licuria burns and obree in the same team
 
Some of you guys have very short memories....Brodie Holland missed the first half dozen games of the season through suspension, and then has been hampered by injury since his return.

When fit, he is easily in our best ten players, why on earth would he be delisted?
 
He did deserve a senior game ahead of Toovey last week, but so did Stanley and Wellingham. Unfortunately that ship has sailed. His form this year in the VFL has been good, but if they considered him a realistic chance of retaining a senior spot, he surely would have been recalled by now.
 

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