Best 25 2008

[goal sneak]

Who will be our best 25 for next year. My thoughts

B: Bell Carroll Frawley
HB: C.Johnson Miller Rivers
C: T.Johnstone Jones Bruce
HF: Green Bate Sylvia
F: Robertson Neitz Davey
R: White McLean McDonald
IC: Moloney Bartram P.Johnson Newton
E: Wheatley Petterd Dunn

That leaves the following players from this years list not in the 25
Bizzell
Buckley
Brown
Ferguson
Garland
Godfrey
Holland
Jamar
Neville
Pickett
Ward
Warnock
Weetra
Whelan
Yze

 

[CaptainDavey]

Sheesh you honestly don't see Whelan in your best team? Would have been a tough call

 

[goal sneak]

Sheesh you honestly don't see Whelan in your best team? Would have been a tough call

To be honest i prefer Bell, CJ, Frawley, Petterd, Wheatley as to play on the smaller/ medium sized forwards.

 

[CaptainDavey]

To be honest i prefer Bell, CJ, Frawley, Petterd, Wheatley as to play on the smaller/ medium sized forwards.

Personally I'd have him ahead of CJ...But you're looking at this from a development perspective yeah?

 

[Bateanator]

Wheats in for CJ, wish there was a place for Petterd. Maybe try JUice at starting CHF, Bate HFF, other than that i think it's very accurate

 

[demonfan9]

Whelan is in our best side, no matter what. Him, Rivers and Bell are our three best defenders.

Carroll is a necessity at full back due to our lack of personnel.

Frawley should be blooded as much as possible to fast-track his development (as we really need a good key defender).

Wheatley's current form demands a spot in the line up too.

Buckley and CJ should also be given time off half back and wing to develop.

 

[dutchy12]

Wheatley in definitly for CJ.

Also I know Yze can be fustrating at times but jesus when were up and running he is a very good contributor for us. Nether the less very good depth player if he's not in our best 22.

 

[Jimi]

Would prefer Rivers at CHB, and no Miller. Wheaters (versatile) and Whelan both should be in the best 22.

 

[davey_magik]

If we're lucky enough to have every single player fit, this would be mine:

FB: Whelan Carroll Frawley
HB: Bell Rivers Petterd
C: Johnstone McLean Moloney
HF: Davey Bate Sylvia
FF: Newton Neitz Robertson
FOLL: White McDonald Bruce
I/C: P Johnson Bartram Green Jones
E: Wheatley Jamar Dunn

I'm unsure about CHF and CHB still, to be honest I'd kill for a 195cm tall defender to play CHB so Rivers could play on the 3rd tall, hopefully Frawley grows a bit taller (It says he's 193cm on the site but I reckon he's just a tad shorter than that) and he could fill that role. Ideally at the end of the year Frawley will have overtaken Carroll as our best FB option.

If the Master keeps up his form at CHF and continues to develop as a forward he could be a very good player as I see Juice as more of a FF option to replace Neita. My only query would be could Bate, Newton, Neita and Robbo all fit in the same forwardline as they all play tall, if we struggled with that next year I'd bring in Yze over Newton if we were going reasonably well because Yze could play a crumbing role, but if we're not looking like making finals I'd continue to give Juice games, and who knows by the end of this year he may have a spot sewn up in the 22 for Round 1 2008 already.

If all those midfielders are fit the only player who may drop off a bit is Junior (I think he'll retire at the end of next year) and guys like McLean, Sylvia, Moloney, Bartram and Jones are only going to get better (I'd also debate TJ and Bruce will be much better with other quality mids around them, TJ especially as he may actually deliver consistently under a new coach and wouldn't have as much pressure on him).

I like Petterd off the HBF, he reads the play very well, is a very good user of the ball and is courageous and IMO will end up becoming a utility player for us.

I do think White is going to continue to slowly go down in terms of impact (He already has when you compare 2004 to this year) and I hope one of PJ/Jamar/Neaves really starts to come along and can take over from him eventually as we need a quality ruck sooner rather than later.

To be honest now with the group of kids we have I think we need a really good young ruck, pacy midfielder with good skills and a tall back and our group of kids is pretty much set to challenge for a flag when they mature.

 

[master bate]

Don't see how you can leave Whelan out and have Miller in, even Ferguson has done more to warrant selection at CHB then Miller.

B: Bell Carroll Whelan
HB: Frawley Rivers Wheatley
C: T.Johnstone McLean Green
HF: Bruce Bate Sylvia
F: Robertson Neitz Davey
R: White Jones McDonald
IC: Moloney Yze P.Johnson Gofrey
E: Dunn Bartram Petterd
2nd Emer: Newton CJ Buckley

Godfrey deserves selection as a tagger. Bartram was left out because I'm not sure how good he really is. Yze is very classy when where up and running (he did have 38 odd possesions at some stage this year) so gets a spot. Bizzel, Pickett (when fit) and Ward push for selection but have been excluded due to age. All the other players on our list should be delisted except for Weetra, Garland and possibly Neville.

 

[Slander]

B: Bell - Carroll - Whelan
HB: Sylvia - Rivers - Bartram
C: Bruce - Jones - Johnstone
HF: Moloney - Bate - Davey
F: Robertson - Neitz - Green
R: White - McLean - McDonald
I: P.Johnson - Yze - Wheatley - Petterd
E: Newton - Frawley - Dunn

 

[stickman11]

B: Bell - Carroll - Whelan
HB: Sylvia - Rivers - Bartram
C: Bruce - Jones - Johnstone
HF: Moloney - Bate - Davey
F: Robertson - Neitz - Green
R: White - McLean - McDonald
I: P.Johnson - Yze - Wheatley - Petterd
E: Newton - Frawley - Dunn

Carroll stands out like a sore thumb.

 

[Guru Bob32]

Don't see how you can leave Whelan out and have Miller in, even Ferguson has done more to warrant selection at CHB then Miller.

B: Bell Carroll Whelan
HB: Frawley Rivers Wheatley
C: T.Johnstone McLean Green
HF: Bruce Bate Sylvia
F: Robertson Neitz Davey
R: White Jones McDonald
IC: Moloney Yze P.Johnson Gofrey
E: Dunn Bartram Petterd
2nd Emer: Newton CJ Buckley

Godfrey deserves selection as a tagger. Bartram was left out because I'm not sure how good he really is. Yze is very classy when where up and running (he did have 38 odd possesions at some stage this year) so gets a spot. Bizzel, Pickett (when fit) and Ward push for selection but have been excluded due to age. All the other players on our list should be delisted except for Weetra, Garland and possibly Neville.

very good team. Not sure if Frawley is in our best 22 though. i know he is young and we should give him time to develop but would prefer guys like ward and bizzle over him. Just doesnt have the awarness and skill level just yet. Will be good in 09 and beyond but dont see him in our best 22. not sure if he can be a key backman which he is being played at sometimes as doesnt posses the height and weight, will be good at taking the third tall forward though.

 

[Supermercado]

Surely we can pull some gun trade or draft manouevre to get a decent CHB. And send Miller to Northcote Park in exchange for a carton of Winnie Blues and last month's copy of FHM.

 

[Deenamite]

Surely we can pull some gun trade or draft manouevre to get a decent CHB. And send Miller to Northcote Park in exchange for a carton of Winnie Blues and last month's copy of FHM.

Northcote could be giving up too much there. Maybe just the Winnie's.

Anyway I think we might trade one player that's in our starting 22 but all the lists seem very similar and packed with quality.

It's very frustrating too actually seeing how good our team could be if we didn't have any injuries...

 

[oooze]

If we were playing in a grand final next week and all of our players were fit. This is who i would have and what positions I would have them in.


B: Whelan Carroll Ferguson
HB: Yze Rivers Ward
C: Johnstone Sylvia Bartram
HF: Bruce Newton Green
F: Robertson Neitz Davey
R: White McLean McDonald
IC: Dunn, Wheately, Moloney, Jones


Yze is under-rated on this board. Much more trustworthy than Frawley.

Bruce and Green are more valuable up forward

Ward is under-rated on this board. He runs the lines, breaks the lines and kicks long and direct..unlike any of the other back 6.

Bell still lacks awareness

 

[McCleanMagic]

If we were playing in a grand final next week and all of our players were fit. This is who i would have and what positions I would have them in.


B: Whelan Carroll Ferguson
HB: Yze Rivers Ward
C: Johnstone Sylvia Bartram
HF: Bruce Newton Green
F: Robertson Neitz Davey
R: White McLean McDonald
IC: Dunn, Wheately, Moloney, Jones


My side varies a little to thay:
B: Bartram Carroll Wheatley
HB: Petterd Rivers Silvia
C: Johnstone Jones Bruce
HF:Green Bate Dunn
F: Davey Neitz Robertson
R : White McLean McDonald
IC Molony, Newton, Yze, Ferguson
EMERG: Ward, Whelan, Miller, Bizzell

 

[demonfan9]

If we were playing in a grand final next week and all of our players were fit. This is who i would have and what positions I would have them in.


B: Whelan Carroll Ferguson
HB: Yze Rivers Ward
C: Johnstone Sylvia Bartram
HF: Bruce Newton Green
F: Robertson Neitz Davey
R: White McLean McDonald
IC: Dunn, Wheately, Moloney, Jones


Yze is under-rated on this board. Much more trustworthy than Frawley.

Bruce and Green are more valuable up forward

Ward is under-rated on this board. He runs the lines, breaks the lines and kicks long and direct..unlike any of the other back 6.

Bell still lacks awareness

You're entitled to your opinion but

Bell has been our best defender this year by far.

Bate has been terrific at centre half forward, but you've completely ommitted him (or forgot him) and put Newton there instead.

You've included no back-up ruckmen at all and Yze at half back (he never plays there).

 

[master bate]

If we were playing in a grand final next week and all of our players were fit. This is who i would have and what positions I would have them in.


B: Whelan Carroll Ferguson
HB: Yze Rivers Ward
C: Johnstone Sylvia Bartram
HF: Bruce Newton Green
F: Robertson Neitz Davey
R: White McLean McDonald
IC: Dunn, Wheately, Moloney, Jones


Yze is under-rated on this board. Much more trustworthy than Frawley.

Bruce and Green are more valuable up forward

Ward is under-rated on this board. He runs the lines, breaks the lines and kicks long and direct..unlike any of the other back 6.

Bell still lacks awareness

Without Bruce and Green in the midfield we would get killed, I don't see how you can put Sylvia in the centre, he's never played a full game in the middle. And I'm been a little bit of a traditionalist but McLean should be named in the centre of everyones team, he is the perfect centreman and more.

Bell makes the odd mistake but at least can defend and can stay within 50m of an opponent, which must be the basis of at least 4 of your defenders, even the Bulldogs struggle with too many running players and not enough pure defenders hence why Frawley is in my side (Bizzel would be but I've declared him too old). And Ward does kick long and direct but all to often to the opposition.

 

[master bate]

very good team. Not sure if Frawley is in our best 22 though. i know he is young and we should give him time to develop but would prefer guys like ward and bizzle over him. Just doesnt have the awarness and skill level just yet. Will be good in 09 and beyond but dont see him in our best 22. not sure if he can be a key backman which he is being played at sometimes as doesnt posses the height and weight, will be good at taking the third tall forward though.

He probably isn't yet but seeing this is the best 22 for '08 I've left out Biz and Ward. I suppose I've gone with a best 21 plus Frawley because he needs to be playing in our side so we can finally have the gun tall defender we need.

 

[setanta17]

this is ridiculous- nathan d. brown is averaging like 22 possessions a game and is regularly featuring in the bests n u dnt thinks hes in the top 22, and same with whealan.

 

[unstable punt]

Who will be our best 25 for next year. My thoughts

B: Bell Carroll Frawley
HB: C.Johnson Miller Rivers
C: T.Johnstone Jones Bruce
HF: Green Bate Sylvia
F: Robertson Neitz Davey
R: White McLean McDonald
IC: Moloney Bartram P.Johnson Newton
E: Wheatley Petterd Dunn

That leaves the following players from this years list not in the 25
Bizzell
Buckley
Brown
Ferguson
Garland
Godfrey
Holland
Jamar
Neville
Pickett
Ward
Warnock
Weetra
Whelan
Yze

you lose any cred by leaving whelan out

 

[Gouga]

B: Carroll, Warnock, Whelan
HB: Bell, Frawley, Rivers
C: Johnstone, Bruce, Green
HF: Bate, Newton, Sylvia
F: Davey, Neitz, Robertson
R: White, Jones, McLean
I/C from: Bartram, Dunn, P Johnson, McDonald, Moloney, Wheatley, Yze

I believe Warnock can develop into a solid defender. He is athletic and tall. Needs a little more bulk. Frawley has overtaken Ferguson for CHB and Newton has overtaken Miller for CHF.

 

[The Demon]

If we were playing in a grand final next week and all of our players were fit. This is who i would have and what positions I would have them in.


B: Whelan Carroll Ferguson
HB: Yze Rivers Ward
C: Johnstone Sylvia Bartram
HF: Bruce Newton Green
F: Robertson Neitz Davey
R: White McLean McDonald
IC: Dunn, Wheately, Moloney, Jones


My side varies a little to thay:
B: Bartram Carroll Wheatley
HB: Petterd Rivers Silvia
C: Johnstone Jones Bruce
HF:Green Bate Dunn
F: Davey Neitz Robertson
R : White McLean McDonald
IC Molony, Newton, Yze, Ferguson
EMERG: Ward, Whelan, Miller, Bizzell

Who rucks if White gets injured 5 mins into the 1st Quarter?

 

[davey_magik]

Sorry oooze, but leaving out Bell and Bate is idiotic.
Both have been in our top 5 this year easily.