BigFooty Supercoach Cup Thread

[Marklar_33]

This thread is for discussion of the SC Cup I am planning to run between all the BigFooty Divisions. Obviously since all teams and leagues havent been accounted for, the structure isnt finalised, but will be by Round 1.

Any suggestions for how it should go are welcome here, and also, any player who does NOT want to be involved, please state your intention here

 

[Athomas]

It should be the first 4 divisions only (64 people) unless we can make it to 8 divisions (128 people)

Thinking of doing a random draw?

Anyway should be good

 

[Marklar_33]

It should be the first 4 divisions only (64 people) unless we can make it to 8 divisions (128 people)

Thinking of doing a random draw?

Anyway should be good

I understand what your saying about the evenness of keeping it restricted to the first 4, but then I would be out

I will do a random draw, and by the 2nd Round, it will be cut back to straight knockout, one way or another

 

[Athomas]

I understand what your saying about the evenness of keeping it restricted to the first 4, but then I would be out

I will do a random draw, and by the 2nd Round, it will be cut back to straight knockout, one way or another

haha ok. I think we could get 8 leagues though, only need about 48 more people...

ok on second thought.... LoL

 

[Marklar_33]

Yeah, may struggle haha... If say we got 5 leagues (80 teams) and the Cup started Round 4(?) then qualification could be restricted to the Top 12 in every league. Theres even scope for 2 cups in one year... which may not be a great idea, but possible

 

[Athomas]

Yeah, may struggle haha... If say we got 5 leagues (80 teams) and the Cup started Round 4(?) then qualification could be restricted to the Top 12 in every league. Theres even scope for 2 cups in one year... which may not be a great idea, but possible

Naaa we have to involve everyone, especially cause the bottom 4 in first division could easily beat some in the 4th-5th (imo).

Anyway lucky loser system for First round is a possibility as you mentioned somewhere.

 

[SJ]

What rounds will you conduct it across? The final six or however many we need to run the competition?

Or perphaps every second or third round across the season?

 

[JedMack]

Why not make the first round a seeding round. Pick a week, say Round 4, and rank all entrants on their Gameweek score.

Then go knockout with the highest seeding losers getting a double chance to bring it up to a 64/128 entrants

 

[Marklar_33]

Why not make the first round a seeding round. Pick a week, say Round 4, and rank all entrants on their Gameweek score.

Then go knockout with the highest seeding losers getting a double chance to bring it up to a 64/128 entrants

Yeah, something like this... you've actually given me another idea, whereby going by this seeding, the top x teams have a first round bye, and the bottom z teams playoff to go into the second round...

Many options... may stack a few up and poll them

 

[Marklar_33]

Taking into consideration a couple of the good ideas posted above, I believe this will be the format

I cant see this getting over 128 teams (or to it!) but I believe I will limit entry to 128 teams, so either the first 8 leagues, or a playoff between leagues 8 and 9 and any additionals.

Anyway, Cup rounds will be Rounds 4,6,8,10,12,14 and 16. This way, the cup starts after the prices change for the first time, and when true league competition starts. It will also finish before SC finals, and hopefully when all competitors (at least those surviving) are still keen to play!

The first 3 weeks' scores will determine rankings, with the top x amount of teams gaining at First Round bye.

I am undecided on whether to have 'seedings' or a random draw every week, but I am leaning towards the First Round bye sides playing off in the first week to earn seedings throughout the Cup

Then, by Cup Round 2, it will be pure knockout! Until we find a winner

Simple!

 

[Athomas]

Taking into consideration a couple of the good ideas posted above, I believe this will be the format

I cant see this getting over 128 teams (or to it!) but I believe I will limit entry to 128 teams, so either the first 8 leagues, or a playoff between leagues 8 and 9 and any additionals.

Anyway, Cup rounds will be Rounds 4,6,8,10,12,14 and 16. This way, the cup starts after the prices change for the first time, and when true league competition starts. It will also finish before SC finals, and hopefully when all competitors (at least those surviving) are still keen to play!

The first 3 weeks' scores will determine rankings, with the top x amount of teams gaining at First Round bye.

I am undecided on whether to have 'seedings' or a random draw every week, but I am leaning towards the First Round bye sides playing off in the first week to earn seedings throughout the Cup

Then, by Cup Round 2, it will be pure knockout! Until we find a winner

Simple!

Why not 4,7,10,13,16,19,22?

 

[SJ]

Why not 4,7,10,13,16,19,22?

Agreed. No one wants to be peaking in July.

 

[dmc333]

It needs to be over before the finals start.

 

[dUkez]

Agreed. No one wants to be peaking in July.

is it possible to join in the cup?

 

[SJ]

It needs to be over before the finals start.

Why?

 

[Marklar_33]

Why?

Actually, you make a good point there... by then there will only be at most 4 teams in the Cup by Round 19... might then make it 3,6,9,12,15,18 and 21, so then the only marquee event in Round 22 is league finals

 

[SJ]

Actually, you make a good point there... by then there will only be at most 4 teams in the Cup by Round 19... might then make it 3,6,9,12,15,18 and 21, so then the only marquee event in Round 22 is league finals

Having it Round 22 I think is a good idea though, it means those who are still performing at that stage (which everyone should be) are rewarded, even if they didnt make the League Grand Final.

 

[Marklar_33]

Having it Round 22 I think is a good idea though, it means those who are still performing at that stage (which everyone should be) are rewarded, even if they didnt make the League Grand Final.

I understand that, but I dont like the possibility that some teams 'rest' players once they've secured a finals spot, not by dropping them, but less game time during the last round... its not a massive deal, but it does happen, and its only 2 teams through to Round 21 or 22 anyway

 

[Jolldo87]

when are you doing the draw marklar?

 

[Marklar_33]

when are you doing the draw marklar?

After this round Jolldo... unlike Dream Team, my first round includes byes, so I need 2 weeks worth of scores for weighting purposes so teams can earn the week off

 

[Jolldo87]

After this round Jolldo... unlike Dream Team, my first round includes byes, so I need 2 weeks worth of scores for weighting purposes so teams can earn the week off

good idea, i was wondering what would happen with 6 leagues

 

[Marklar_33]

good idea, i was wondering what would happen with 6 leagues

Yeah, seems thats all I could do really without not including leagues (which would count me out haha). The teams who are not involved in knockout matches during Round 1 will be involved in 'seeding matches' for the Top 8 seeds... because you have run yours totally random draw, I am going to run this one in a more "tennis" format haha, with a set draw from the get go

Bit of variety anyways

 

[maculosus]

I'm in 2 leagues which came about from these forums but I don't think they were given an official name. They ate BigFooty LG and BigFooty Newbies. I'm sure there would be, like me, players in these leagues who are part of the BigFooty community and would like to participate in this KO Comp. However because our league was not identified as Div 1 etc we will miss out.

If you are trying to get the numbers up to 128 maybe you could invite us to join. Thanks.

 

[Marklar_33]

Thanks for the offer but its a big enough struggle right now to get all the official teams and users matched up... I'll just keep it to the official ones this year, but it will definately be on next year, one way or another...

 

[Team Mo']

wouldn't it be easier to just play 1st vs last from the first week

and then make i think it would 5/6 leagues of 8 who vs each other for 8 rounds and 16 rounds and then the top 4 or top 2 vs other leagues


like it goes from say

62 --> to group stages---> to last 16 ---> to last 8---> Final 4---->Final


Kind of like the FIFa world cup..however if you lose first round your out for good so this could a be a worry for everyone???

just a thought