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Can someone please tell me what rules Crown use.

For instance how many decks are used?
Can you double after splitting?
How many times can you split?
How many times can you split aces?
Any other variations would be handy to know as well.

I'm studdying Basic Strategy however strategy changes depending on different casino rules.

Also any websites with information on Crown games would be very handy. It's hard following Las Vegas websites when their Blackjack rules are different.

Any information would be appreciated. :cool:
 
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Check pdfs here

I know for one thing, Crown uses far too many decks. I played a single deck table in Vegas.

Maybe this is normal at all casinos, but a 2-card 21 after a split is not blackjack, and merely pays evens.

You can double down only on hard 9, 10 or 11.

Dealer stands on soft 17.

You can split non-Aces to form a maximum of three hands.

Aces can only be split once and only one additional card will be dealt to each.
 
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Angus1 said:
Can someone please tell me what rules Crown use.

For instance how many decks are used?
Can you double after splitting?
How many times can you split?
How many times can you split aces?
Any other variations would be handy to know as well.

I'm studdying Basic Strategy however strategy changes depending on different casino rules.

Also any websites with information on Crown games would be very handy. It's hard following Las Vegas websites when their Blackjack rules are different.

Any information would be appreciated. :cool:
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I know a former BJ dealer quite well. ;)

Red+Black is spot on with his information.

It's 8 decks by the way.
 
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red+black said:
I know for one thing, Crown uses far too many decks. I played a single deck table in Vegas.
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Single deck :eek:
The card counters would have a field day !!!!

I used to try and card count when playing black jack but unfortunately used to always get too ********ed because the game bored me.

If you want to try it here's how to do it.

Cards 2345 are allocated a score of +1
Cards 6789 are allocated a score of zero
Cards TJQKA are allocated a score of -1

Make sure you keep an eye on every card that comes out and keep the score in your head.
The higher the score, the more likely a face card (TJQKA) is to come out so then you bet up. The lower the score the more likely a poor card (2345) will come so bet the minimum.

It sounds difficult but with practice it isn't actually that hard.
That said, doing this only slightly puts the odds in your favour. You will still have bad nights.

Also don't make it obvious because casinos are instructed to look out for counters and will eject you accordingly.
 

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Impossible to count cards at any casino in Aus anymore no matter how many decks you can keep up with, as they all have the constant shufflers now.

Used to play BJ all the time but wont go near those constant shuffling machines:thumbsd:
 
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The Dice Man said:
Impossible to count cards at any casino in Aus anymore no matter how many decks you can keep up with, as they all have the constant shufflers now.

Used to play BJ all the time but wont go near those constant shuffling machines:thumbsd:
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I haven't played BJ at Crown for nearly two years now.
The shuffle machines were starting to come into vogue back then.

So they're all like that now ? :(
 
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Thanks for the info guys.:)

sainter said:
I know a former BJ dealer quite well. ;)

Red+Black is spot on with his information.

It's 8 decks by the way.
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Yes i thought it was 8 but i didn't know for sure. I practise at home with an 8 deck shoe so I'm glad I guessed right.

Daytripper said:
If you want to try it here's how to do it.

Cards 2345 are allocated a score of +1
Cards 6789 are allocated a score of zero
Cards TJQKA are allocated a score of -1

Make sure you keep an eye on every card that comes out and keep the score in your head.
The higher the score, the more likely a face card (TJQKA) is to come out so then you bet up. The lower the score the more likely a poor card (2345) will come so bet the minimum.
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That is actually an uneven count and wont work.
6 should have a score of +1.
It's probably worthwhile pointing out to anyone who would like to try counting cards that you also need to get a true count which means you have to devide your score by the number of decks left. So with Crown using 8 decks it takes away a lot of the counters advantage. Then if they stop and shuffle, well your back at zero again.:mad:

Borgsta said:
pontoon is much better. More fun.
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Yes it is but I don't know a strategy for Pontoon yet.:) I'm still trying to fine tune my Blackjack game and even with hours of practise i still have nights of big losses. With correct blackjack strategy though it is possible to win some serious money. Hell it's a gamble but we only live once hey.:cool:
 
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The counting method used was made up by some university students from Russia I believe, they lived in the states and worked for a dood in the states. While not fool proof they were mathematical freaks and often walked away with millions a night betting up too 100 G's a hand, saw it on a documentry a while ago.
 
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Borgsta said:
pontoon is much better. More fun.
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It's definitely more fun but it's not the game you want to play if you're a serious gambler. If you're with a group of mates and have had a bit to drink it's great fun. As long as you've got $50 - $100 that you're willing to lose anyway. It's strangely addictive, especially when you put $1 in the box, get a blackjack, and press the jackpot button. :p

For those that don't know there's no 10's in the deck. There's still picture cards though. In a way it helps the people that don't know what they are doing. Those that don't know BJ strategy and just keep hitting past 12 regardless of what the dealer has.
 
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FYI. Phil Gordon's company Expert Insight are releasing a blackjack DVD very soon called Beating BlackJack. He mentions it in an interview on Poker Magazine.

Our second DVD is released in a couple of weeks; it is Andy Block’s Beating Blackjack. Andy was a member of the MIT blackjack team. In his video, in a very similar way to my video, you inside his mind. He counts cards, he plays perfect basic strategy, and as he works with a blackjack team. Very similar to the MIT blackjack team that he was on. So that’s pretty cool. We have a golf video coming out that we are shooting in March. We are going to do 5 or 6 more this year on various topics. The company is growing very quickly, and it is going extraordinarily well. Being the CEO of a growing media company is not something to leave a lot of time for everything else.
 
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Actually its a 4 deck game on Mondays.
 

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Phil Gordon reports on his blog that his BJ DVD will be released on March 31.
 
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Supa Stylin Stevie said:
6 deck games in the Mahogany Room.
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Where exactly is The Mahogany Room? I was in Melbourne last week for a seminar and visited Crown for a little Blackjack but i could not find any Mahogany room or any poker playing?
Where is this room and where is the poker played?
 
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The poker is on the bottom floor. I think its labelled as B1 or something, its basically underground.
 
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red+black said:
FYI. Phil Gordon's company Expert Insight are releasing a blackjack DVD very soon called Beating BlackJack. He mentions it in an interview on Poker Magazine.

Our second DVD is released in a couple of weeks; it is Andy Block’s Beating Blackjack. Andy was a member of the MIT blackjack team. In his video, in a very similar way to my video, you inside his mind. He counts cards, he plays perfect basic strategy, and as he works with a blackjack team. Very similar to the MIT blackjack team that he was on. So that’s pretty cool. We have a golf video coming out that we are shooting in March. We are going to do 5 or 6 more this year on various topics. The company is growing very quickly, and it is going extraordinarily well. Being the CEO of a growing media company is not something to leave a lot of time for everything else.
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FYI, this DVD has now been released.
 
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Impulse Shopping

I bought some stuff from Conjelco and while I was there, I said what the hey, I'll grab that Andy Bloch BlackJack DVD.

Andy is an MIT and Harvard graduate, a very accomplished blackjack player, and was runner-up to Chip Reese in the $50,000 HORSE at the 2006 WSOP.

So, if you want a copy, PM me. One stipulation though, I will only do this for Poker forum regulars.
 

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red+black said:
Impulse Shopping

I bought some stuff from Conjelco and while I was there, I said what the hey, I'll grab that Andy Bloch BlackJack DVD.

Andy is an MIT and Harvard graduate, a very accomplished blackjack player, and was runner-up to Chip Reese in the $50,000 HORSE at the 2006 WSOP.

So, if you want a copy, PM me. One stipulation though, I will only do this for Poker forum regulars.
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Can you give a brief rundown of what he goes over (PM if need be). Just that I hate blackjack, but always end up playing it...so any additional info would do.
 
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Does Crown, or any Australian casino, allow you to surrender a hand? That is, surrender half your bet and take back the other half?
 
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Official site for the card counting documentary, The Hot Shoe, which features Andy Bloch and other blackjack pros.
 

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