thylacine60
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yes please.......
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thylacine60
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weren't they both pre-sos?
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According to many here, not only was Liddle by himself, but he was also a cyborg assassin sent back by a 65 year old Eddie McGuire from the year 2029 to prevent SOS further developing the list which led to the Carlton Premiership 5 peat from 2021-2025.
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that's appalling 
I would like to think we would. Have always been a sport fanatic, but under no delusions regarding our on field idols.
SOS has done a great job with the rebuild, it is about appreciation and respect for me, not having a Johnny come lately
claiming credit for the club renaissance on the back of someone he has either subtly or blatantly shafted.
Edit: Only gross misconduct would be an acceptable reason for "dismissal".
And I will happily lend him 4b to hit it with.
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you said 4b has been retired........
We've brought it out of retirement and put it on the rookie list as a precaution.
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It's not really a dismissal in the common sense of the word though, is it.
SOS was brought on to do a job (ie. strip the list back to it's bare bones and rebuild on the fly via the draft). If those running the club believe that job is done, then there isn't a specific need for that position to be filled. Instead, we just need what most clubs have, a List Manager to balance contracts and coordinate the efforts of the recruiters based on the perceived needs of the list.
I don't think it's at all unreasonable that, if SOS's contract had indeed expired, that the club wouldn't be putting a new one in front of him for the same role, especially if others in the List Management team felt that having that (now redundant) role filled, by SOS, was going to limit their ability to do their own jobs. Particularly given SOS's salary would fall under the soft cap, and could potentially be better spent on coaching or medical staff now that the heavy lifting of the rebuild is done. That's very different to being sacked because you annoyed someone, or because you'd done a poor job.
It also makes perfect sense that SOS would feel aggrieved at a situation like that. Having his portfolio taken out of his hands and being told that he's welcome to stick around and do something different instead.
Not going to pretend to know exactly what's gone on, and find it strange that some here seem to think they have all the information they need to cast judgement.
In my book, SOS has done a great job, but his influence may have become a bit too overbearing. Liddle has done well on the commercial side of things, don't like him being involved in LM but would certainly respect him if it turned out his actions were taken on behalf of other staff at the club who felt their own input was being limited/disregarded.
Shitty optics, but I'm prepared to give the club 12 months to see what happens off the back of this change, rather than railing at the specific circumstances now.
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I don't think it really matters who the list manager is, I think any time a CEO goes behind the list managers back to try and sign up a player you've got issues.
In that situation the CEO is clearly in the wrong and he has directly marginalised the list manager. If the list manager has a backbone it's not a tenable relationship. Imo the wrong person has been punished, SOS was railroaded in the end. Not to say Liddle should've been the one sacked, but surely some reprimand needed to be implemented.
I take it SOS' frustration was the fact he was left in the cold on those negotiations, then based on rumours since the board etc. have backed Liddle over him. If I was SOS I'd want to tell them to get nicked as well. Don't blame him for leaving.
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no-one likes a like-sucker........or do they?
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It was, ultimately, what we tried to do but were unable to pull off due to Adelaide's greed. Or if not greed, perhaps their vengeance for feasting on them the last few years. Stephens vs. Kemp + Philp is an interesting one. May turn out they've done us a favour.
Wish you would retire, this post of yours shits me no end.
Starts of lowercase and then way to many full stops to finish.
Like you post just to annoy me.
Where has all this ******* retirement talk come from??
4b2 needs and wants to make a comeback not come out of retirement.
Only some old salty prick told me that 4b2 saying hi to posters are threats of violence and that he should curb his way - subsequently I made him into a temporary shelf, he holds 6 cans very nicely.
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All I'm saying is that for people who don't understand football, like everyday fans, or pundits, this would have been well received.
I think we made the correct calls, and it seems SOS' stubbornness is to thank for a lot of that.
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I tend to agree with you, upside regarding Brodie Kemp is enormous if we're fortunate, Philp too has all the tools for a competitive midfielder, Stephen Silvagni took a risk which may turn out a big win for the CFC.
It seems like Agresta was a yes man to Lloyd and Liddle
That’s the joke/point my good man.
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Sorry, you're spot on. Rushed post before leaving work
On the topic of Young, merely on his confident attitude in draft night media presos and his alleged best kick in the draft class (not that i've seen him kick it) he looks to be one of the picks of the draft. Great move by Freo there.
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