Brad Ottens

[Crow-mosone]

Originally posted by Stiffy_18
I don't think we need to dump salaries NBA style. With Smart, Clarke, Burns and Carey set to hang up the boots that frees up a fair bit more than $500K. No player out there is worth more that $550K a year. I mean NO ONE. Unless you want to get into salary cap breaches.

Also if we land Ottens he take up a lot of newly cleared cap space.

 

[Stiffy_18]

Originally posted by Crow-mosone
Also if we land Ottens he take up a lot of newly cleared cap space.

Carey $300K, Burns $200K, Clarke $200K Smart 100K

All that adds up to $800K or $700K. No way in hell is Ottens worth more than $500K at best. Even Roo is not getting that much.

 

[Crow-mosone]

Originally posted by Stiffy_18
Carey $300K, Burns $200K, Clarke $200K Smart 100K

All that adds up to $800K or $700K. No way in hell is Ottens worth more than $500K at best. Even Roo is not getting that much.

true, but there will be other contract re-negotiations plus natural increases already built into existing players contracts.

we might be alright, but we might not either.

btw, not that I think we'll get the chance but I would pay Lenny Hayes 550k without blinking.

 

[spindoctor]

Glad you're not a recruiter then. Lenny Hayes is good, but not quite $550,000 good, more like $400,000.

 

[DaveW]

Originally posted by Stiffy_18
Burns $200K

So whats Burns' total salary when you add on Geelong's contribution?

 

[Stiffy_18]

Originally posted by DaveW
So whats Burns' total salary when you add on Geelong's contribution?

$400K. He was Geelong's 2nd highest paid player behind Graham. They are still paying half his salary.

 

[Crow-mosone]

Originally posted by spindoctor
Glad you're not a recruiter then. Lenny Hayes is good, but not quite $550,000 good, more like $400,000.

do you think any midfielder under the age of 25 is worth that?

 

[DaveW]

Well I'm not the biggest Lenny Hayes fan, but I'd say he's worth more than Ronnie Burns.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Originally posted by Stiffy_18
Carey $300K, Burns $200K, Clarke $200K Smart 100K

All that adds up to $800K or $700K. No way in hell is Ottens worth more than $500K at best. Even Roo is not getting that much.

Also, think we can put Roo on the vets list too under the new rules.

 

[macca23]

Looks like the whole debate is probably a waste of time!!

Unless Richmond want to trade him against his will.

http://afl.com.au/default.asp?pg=news&spg=display&articleid=153989

Brad Ottens has pledged his future to Richmond saying he would like to play out his entire AFL career at Punt Road.

However Ottens, speaking exclusively to Sportal, admits his immediate playing future will probably become the subject of speculation when he comes out of contract at the end of this season.

Ottens, 24, is coming into the peak years of his career and will no doubt be a target of a club such as Adelaide – particularly considering the Crows are struggling this season and considering Ottens originally hails from South Australia.

“I’m happy to stay in Melbourne but I guess there might be speculation about it at the end of the year,” he said.

Ottens, who is managed by Dan Richardson of Elite Sports Properties, admits he has not begun talking to the Tigers about a new contract for 2005 and beyond but he wants to follow in the footsteps of Mark Coughlan by committing himself to the Tigers’ long-term.

“I want to play my career out at Richmond and be part of a successful club here,’ he said.

However Ottens admits his performances have been “pretty average” in recent weeks as the Tigers yet again find themselves under siege as a club for their poor performance on and off the field.

The club is not only struggling financially on the field but has won just four of its 11 matches this season and has the worst percentage in the league with all seven defeats being by at least six goals.

Ottens admits everyone at the club is under pressure to perform.

“Everyone is under a lot of pressure and their has been a lot of talk about the president (Clinton Casey), the coach (Danny Frawley) and the CEO (the recently departed Ian Campbell),” he said.

“Everyone feels that but we have just got to learn how to deal with it.”

As one of Richmond’s highest profile and highest paid players, Ottens knows he is as a prime candidate for criticism as anyone at Punt Road.

And while he has been disappointed with his output in recent weeks as the Tigers suffered three heavy losses in succession to Port Adelaide, West Coast and the Kangaroos after having won their previous three matches, his overall output is not far below that of his All-Australian year of 2001.

That season he was averaging just under 15 touches and seven marks per game while this year he is averaging 13 disposals and five marks per game and sits fourth in the league for hit-outs with 263 – just five behind second-placed Jeff White.

But the biggest difference between that 2001 season, in which the Tigers reached the preliminary final, and this year is the damage Ottens is doing with the football.

In 2001 he kicked 46 goals or nearly two per game while this season he has kicked just seven in 11 matches.

 

[Stiffy_18]

That doesn't surprise me. In a way its a good thing.

Maybe we can either get Cox for Stenglein or WC's 1st round pick and draft a young ruckman in the first round. I reckon there might be a couple of young gun ruckmen in the draft

 

[Crow-mosone]

what's he supposed to say?

I don't think that interview means anything - one way or the other.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Originally posted by Stiffy_18
That doesn't surprise me. In a way its a good thing.

Maybe we can either get Cox for Stenglein or WC's 1st round pick and draft a young ruckman in the first round. I reckon there might be a couple of young gun ruckmen in the draft

Very unlikely that the Eagles will give up any ruckmen, except Johnson. So, we would be probably after picks. Though, until I hear defintely that Styinger is leaving, I'm going to assume we can convince him to stay.

 

[tribey]

Originally posted by DaveW
Well I'm not the biggest Lenny Hayes fan

That's Lenard Hayes to you

He's a machine

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Originally posted by dyertribe
That's Lenard Hayes to you

He's a machine

Lenard or is it Leonard, Lennard, Lenhard

 

[Mitch Power]

Originally posted by Kane McGoodwin
So Stiffy are you saying that you would trade 1 of our leadership group in Goodwin?

We'll have him!!

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Originally posted by Mitch Power
We'll have him!!

No you won't Mitch!