Traded Brandon Starcevich - traded to West Coast as part of a 3-way trade with Brisbane and Fremantle

[Cursedsword02]

 

[Joao]

Very good player, but if we're in for Warner and/or Pickett, can't imagine we have anything of note to offer him. If we miss both I can see it.

Feels Eagles bound at this point.

 

[AFDogs]

Eagles and Freo only target WA players it seems.

 

[bzparkes]

Supposedly Eagles been into him big-time for a couple of years now, according to rumours on our board, Same rumour also indicates he wants to take up FA and play for WCE.

 

[Joao]

Eagles and Freo only target WA players it seems.

We got Aish...

But yeah, it's hard enough keeping Victorians never mind getting others to come.

 

[tiger_tough]

Open chequebook by the Weagles for him you'd think.

 

[eaglevision]

Wonder which players or picks the Eagles would trade to get him

None.

 

[go_the_dockers]

Perfect for eagles. They can afford to pay overs salary cap wise, and don't need to give up picks for him.

Edit: This assumes Allan does not leave.

 

[Elixuh]

We gave you Yeo for nothing Eagles. Why are you doing this to us.

 

[eaglevision]

We gave you Yeo for nothing Eagles. Why are you doing this to us.

What do you mean? We gave you the Rising Star and best first year player.

 

[Elixuh]

If Allen leaves as a FA does that compo get weakened if the Eagles take Starce? They might want to do a trade.

 

[boncer34]

If Allen leaves as a FA does that compo get weakened if the Eagles take Starce? They might want to do a trade.

Would Brisbane accept a 2nd rounder?

 

[Elixuh]

Would Brisbane accept a 2nd rounder?

No.

Pony up west coast.

 

[boncer34]

No.

Pony up west coast.

Yeah, so they won't trade for him then.

They'll get a single first round pick for Oscar. They'll only trade for Stadcevich if they can pay less than that.

 

[bzparkes]

No.

Pony up west coast.

WCE are rich but I don't think they own any stables.

 

[eaglevision]

If Oscar stays I suspect we’ll offer Starcevich a band 2 contract.

If Oscar wants to go to Brisbane we’ll not match a band 1 offer and get a very favourable trade on Starcevich.

If Oscar goes elsewhere for band 1 we’ll have to pay a decent pick for Starcevich to not dilute the Oscar compo.

 

[Elixuh]

WCE are rich but I don't think they own any stables.

Alright, we will accept a hungry jacks franchise. I hear there’s a lot of those going around over in the west.

 

[bzparkes]

Alright, we will accept a hungry jacks franchise. I hear there’s a lot of those going around over in the west.

There's already that one in the Queen street mall though.

 

[Taylor]

Eagles and Freo only target WA players it seems.

The list of VIC AFL players who move from a non Victorian team to another non Victorian team (last 10 years):
[Victorian players who didn't go home]

Rory Atkins (2024) (GC/ADE)
Tom Berry (2022) (BRI/GC)
Josh Corbett (2022) (GC/FRE)
Josh Dunkley (2022) (WB/BRI)
Will Brodie (2021) (GC/FRE)
Rory Atkins (2020) (ADE/GC)
Lewis Taylor (2019) (BRI/SYD)
Ryan Clarke (2018) (NOR/BRI)
Aaron Young (2017) (GC/POR)
Jack Watts (2017) (MEL/POR)
Jarryd Lyons (2016) (ADE/GC)
Callum Sinclair (2015) (WC/SYD) *played for Subiaco though
Ryan Bastinac (2015) (NOR/BRI)
Josh Walker (2015) (GEE/BRI)
Daniel Currie (2015) (NOR/GS)
Steve Johnson (2015) (GEE/GWS)
Matt Rosa (2015) (WC/GC)

The list of WA AFL players who moved from a non Victorian team to another non WA team(last 10 years):
[WA players who didn't go home]

Jack Darling (2024) (WC/NOR)
Tom Barrass (2024) (WC/HAW)
Shane McAdam (2023) (ADE/MEL)
Liam Henry (2023) (FRE/STK)
Bobby Hill (2022) (GWS/COL)
Blake Acres (2022) (FRE/CAR)
Griffin Logue (2022) (FRE/NOR)
Billy Frampton (2022) (ADE/COL)
Rory Lobb (2022) (FRE/WB)
Jesse Hogan (2020) (FRE/GWS)
Aliir Aliir (2020) (SYD/POR)
Billy Frampton (2019) (POR/ADE)
Paddy Ryder (2019) (POR/STK)
Darcy Cameron (2019) (SYD/COL)
Callum Ah Chee (2019) (GC/BRI)
Brad Hill (2019) (FRE/STK)
Mitch McGovern (2018) (ADE/CAR)
Shane McAdam (2018) (CAR/ADE)
Dean Kent (2018) (MEL/STK)
Marcus Adams (2018) (WB/BRI)
Charlie Cameron (2017) (ADE/BRI)
Aaron Black (2016) (NOR/GEE)
Marley Williams (2016) (COL/NOR)
Jarrod Pickett (2016) (GWS/CAR)
Rhys Palmer (2016) (GWS/CAR)
Jaeger O'Meara (2016) (GC/HAW)
Jarrad Jansen (2015) (GEE/BRI)
Chris Yarran (2015) (CAR/RIC)

It's not quite comparing apples with apples, but it gives some perspective. The list of players who just straight went home is too weighted by the number of Victorian players and clubs, in my opinion, but when you factor that in when viewing the list above it makes it more significant.

 

[Elixuh]

The list of VIC AFL players who move from a non Victorian team to another non Victorian team (last 10 years):
[Victorian players who didn't go home]

Rory Atkins (2024) (GC/ADE)
Tom Berry (2022) (BRI/GC)
Josh Corbett (2022) (GC/FRE)
Josh Dunkley (2022) (WB/BRI)
Will Brodie (2021) (GC/FRE)
Rory Atkins (2020) (ADE/GC)
Lewis Taylor (2019) (BRI/SYD)
Ryan Clarke (2018) (NOR/BRI)
Aaron Young (2017) (GC/POR)
Jack Watts (2017) (MEL/POR)
Jarryd Lyons (2016) (ADE/GC)
Callum Sinclair (2015) (WC/SYD) *played for Subiaco though
Ryan Bastinac (2015) (NOR/BRI)
Josh Walker (2015) (GEE/BRI)
Daniel Currie (2015) (NOR/GS)
Steve Johnson (2015) (GEE/GWS)
Matt Rosa (2015) (WC/GC)

The list of WA AFL players who moved from a non Victorian team to another non WA team(last 10 years):
[WA players who didn't go home]

Jack Darling (2024) (WC/NOR)
Tom Barrass (2024) (WC/HAW)
Shane McAdam (2023) (ADE/MEL)
Liam Henry (2023) (FRE/STK)
Bobby Hill (2022) (GWS/COL)
Blake Acres (2022) (FRE/CAR)
Griffin Logue (2022) (FRE/NOR)
Billy Frampton (2022) (ADE/COL)
Rory Lobb (2022) (FRE/WB)
Jesse Hogan (2020) (FRE/GWS)
Aliir Aliir (2020) (SYD/POR)
Billy Frampton (2019) (POR/ADE)
Paddy Ryder (2019) (POR/STK)
Darcy Cameron (2019) (SYD/COL)
Callum Ah Chee (2019) (GC/BRI)
Brad Hill (2019) (FRE/STK)
Mitch McGovern (2018) (ADE/CAR)
Shane McAdam (2018) (CAR/ADE)
Dean Kent (2018) (MEL/STK)
Marcus Adams (2018) (WB/BRI)
Charlie Cameron (2017) (ADE/BRI)
Aaron Black (2016) (NOR/GEE)
Marley Williams (2016) (COL/NOR)
Jarrod Pickett (2016) (GWS/CAR)
Rhys Palmer (2016) (GWS/CAR)
Jaeger O'Meara (2016) (GC/HAW)
Jarrad Jansen (2015) (GEE/BRI)
Chris Yarran (2015) (CAR/RIC)

It's not quite comparing apples with apples, but it gives some perspective. The list of players who just straight went home is too weighted by the number of Victorian players and clubs, in my opinion, but when you factor that in when viewing the list above it makes it more significant.

What percentage of players traded / FA to WA over the same period were originally from WA?

 

[Taylor]

What percentage of players traded / FA to WA over the same period were originally from WA?

I believe the last time I ran those numbers it worked out that WA and SA players were equally/more likely to extend their careers at another interstate club than to return back to WA. The number is vastly different for Victorian players drafted interstate.

Granted there is a lot of distortion recently by the drafting of Victorians into GC and GWS and them leaving for opportunity elsewhere, but the proportion of players from each state should be matched with the number of players leaving to "go home" - but it isn't.

Next argument is that random chance would have greater than half the players in the league end up in Victoria anyway. Which is fair, if contracts are considered outside of Victoria equally to those within - which I don't think is the case.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

I dont think id bother if i am Eagles the more I think about it. Whats the point in letting Allen go to bring this guy in? May as well just keep Oscar etc.

If Oscar stays id target Starcevich, if not id let him go to Freo/Brisbane and use the 2 mill elsewhere

 

[briztoon]

Goooorne. Pay up West Coast.

 

[eaglevision]

Goooorne. Pay up West Coast.

If Oscar stays it will be pick 19.

 

[Mofra]

Perfect for eagles. They can afford to pay overs salary cap wise, and don't need to give up picks for him.

Yeah. Probably struggling to reach the cap floor.

I wonder if they orchestrate a trade for him if Oscar Allen walks. Protect that FA compo. Brisbane and West Coast probably work out a handshake deal before trade week even starts.