Player Watch Brayden Sier (Delisted 2021)

[THATSGOLD]

When Anthony Rocca first came into the AFL, he had about 5 efforts a game in him. Leon Davis, likewise. Daisy was miles off in terms of endurance, so was Swan. It might take a few years, but if he does the work he'll get there in terms of endurance. I've got no idea about the other aspects of the game.

Even about half way through Pebbles career they are saying how he was "Blowing up." Would take massive breaths before he kicked for goal and 7 commentators used to get on his back about it.

 

[Frank Gallagher]

When Anthony Rocca first came into the AFL, he had about 5 efforts a game in him. Leon Davis, likewise. Daisy was miles off in terms of endurance, so was Swan. It might take a few years, but if he does the work he'll get there in terms of endurance. I've got no idea about the other aspects of the game.

Leon played wing iirc in the Teal cup (could be wrong), he measured well against another young chap who went by the name of Reece Shaw, point is you don't play wing at that level if you don't have a tank.

 

[35Daicos]

I'm predicting how this pans out, and it doesn't pan well.

I'm happy to wait a while, if it doesn't work out then it wasn't a top-ten pick that we used on him. If it does, then a real coup for us. Still way too early to tell, surely you must know this.

 

[Frank Gallagher]

I'm happy to wait a while, if it doesn't work out then it wasn't a top-ten pick that we used on him. If it does, then a real coup for us. Still way too early to tell, surely you must know this.

Top 30 pick who was out of his depth at VFL level, that's what I know.

 

[35Daicos]

Top 30 pick who was out of his depth at VFL level, that's what I know.

Frank, I think I've seen some quite reasonable posts from you in the past, so I hope you're just having a bad night. You are talking the sort of nonsense that TG has become famous for, hopefully you don't continue in that vein!

 

[Kappa]

I'm happy to wait a while, if it doesn't work out then it wasn't a top-ten pick that we used on him. If it does, then a real coup for us. Still way too early to tell, surely you must know this.

Why is a pick 30 "working out" a real coup for us?

Pick 30 isn't exactly a low pick, you'd expect a decent player from it. If Sier doesn't work out Hine made a big blunder

 

[35Daicos]

Why is a pick 30 "working out" a real coup for us?

Pick 30 isn't exactly a low pick, you'd expect a decent player from it. If Sier doesn't work out Hine made a big blunder

He was pick 32, to be precise. I don't consider that to be a high pick, and if it doesn't prove to be a success then I consider taking a punt on a tall, big-bodied, (Patrick Cripps style) midfield prospect at that pick, in a draft that seems to have been short on real quality (have a look at those picked at 20+ with what they've shown so far), to have been a reasonable gamble.

So, this comment does seem a bit over the top - "If Sier doesn't work out Hine made a big blunder"

It would not represent a "big blunder", it would have been a reasonable gamble that didn't pan out. I'm hoping it does pan out, it may well do.

 

[Frank Gallagher]

Frank, I think I've seen some quite reasonable posts from you in the past, so I hope you're just having a bad night. You are talking the sort of nonsense that TG has become famous for, hopefully you don't continue in that vein!

I call it as I see it man, what shits me is when people go the other way based purely on blind loyalty.

I'm no negative Nellie, I'll hand out praise when warranted,.and I'll never bag first year players.

 

[35Daicos]

I call it as I see it man, what shits me is when people go the other way based purely on blind loyalty.

I'm no negative Nellie, I'll hand out praise when warranted,.and I'll never bag first year players.

Sier was/is a first year player, and you are clearly bagging him, you've written him off as a waste of a decent draft pick. I'm certainly loyal to our club, but I've been around long enough and I'm wise enough to not fall for "blind loyalty".

 

[Vicky Park]

Sier is still only 18 (19 in two days time). I'm pretty sure the recruiters said when they chose him that he'd take a while to develop. He's had an injury-interrupted first season, and he came to the club having spent little time in the "traditional pathway" to the AFL. He really deserves to be cut a fair bit of slack under those circumstances.

All of this has been covered over and over with this player. People just need to be a bit patient for once and see how it pans out.

Multiple likes for this sensible post.

 

[ant22]

Why is a pick 30 "working out" a real coup for us?

Pick 30 isn't exactly a low pick, you'd expect a decent player from it. If Sier doesn't work out Hine made a big blunder

Liam jones
Nick winmar
George Hewitt
Michael close
Josh green
Tom lamb

These are the 6 taken at 32 in the drafts prior to sier. None of them look like stars to me. Hewitt and close are the only 2 that might have good careers . That's 2 of 6. 32 is a mid range pick that is hit and miss.

On sier I have no idea if he will make it. All I know is he was very under developed in football terms when we drafted him and in his first year he missed a huge chunk of the season. I think anyone with half a brain would agree it's perhaps best to give the kid a little time before making an informed opinion.

 

[jmac70]

Top 30 pick who was out of his depth at VFL level, that's what I know.

Sier certainly didn't set the works on fire in his VFL games, we have to remember that he was essentially coming from school boy footy to compete against fully grown men. Unfortunately he was injured for the second half of the season and didn't have an opportunity to build on his 17 possession game against Geelong (VFL). His "tank" should improve after completing his first full preseason, providing he can get over his injury worries.

 

[Soups]

Just another kid, sadly added to the premature list of 'won't make it' off the back of one year. Deja vu it seems.

 

[Horaceg]

What would a talent scout be looking for, football smarts, disposal efficiency, clean hands, reaction time, build, all the things that come naturally, they can work on fitness, offer them the right path, diet, training and hopefully with the right application and some luck they make it. There is a lot that can be taught and some things that are just instinctive, it's what makes great players great. I don't think they woke up one morning and decided to pick Sier, there was obviously a thought process and/or something that stood out they though was special.

They have seen something in the kid and taken a risk, good because I would rather take a chance to get something special than just another serviceable player. Better days ahead for the young man IMHO

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

I don't quite think recruiting had the same resources or professionalism back then.

Thats right, these days clubs sometimes take under age players and take a more medium term view.

 

[Scodog10]

One only needs to go back to 1998 draft to see what happens when you overlook bottom age players. Mathhew Pavlich was eligible to be drafted and everybody passed.

Not sure why anyone would be expecting a lot from a bottom aged kid taken 30 odd in his first year.

Didn't he break his arm also? If not he certainly had a few other injuries if I recall correctly.

If he can stay fit next season then the club will have a much better understanding of his potential going forward and whether he has a decent chance of forging an AFL career.

Thats right, these days clubs sometimes take under age players and take a more medium term view.

Bigfooty myth 101 time.

Todays topic: Brayden Sier being referred to as bottom age when drafted!

Reality is that he is as bottom age as Josh Daicos. Neither played Tac Cup in their first year of U18 footy and they have birthdays within two and a half weeks of each other. He's just young for his age group. To inform those that may be confused there is no such thing as bottom or underage under the current system.

There's a number of reasons as to why he has scope for development, but none of them are related to the myth that he was bottom age lol. Like Oxley's kicking only on Bigfooty!

 

[Frank Gallagher]

Sier was/is a first year player, and you are clearly bagging him, you've written him off as a waste of a decent draft pick. I'm certainly loyal to our club, but I've been around long enough and I'm wise enough to not fall for "blind loyalty".

He's a second year player now, can you count to 2?

 

[jefffff34]

He's a second year player now, can you count to 2?

You called him a top 30 pick when he was drafted at 32. I wouldn't be throwing stones about the maths skills of others.

 

[35Daicos]

He's a second year player now, can you count to 2?

I can count quite well, thanks for that. You seem to be in an awfully bad mood, Frank. You're taking pot-shots at some people who really don't deserve it!.

 

[jmac70]

He's a second year player now, can you count to 2?

Can you stop being childish?

 

[ClaytonM]

Even about half way through Pebbles career they are saying how he was "Blowing up." Would take massive breaths before he kicked for goal and 7 commentators used to get on his back about it.

I used to do similar way back in the eighties. It is just a means of settling yourself before you take a shot on goal. Get the heart rate down and fatigue out of he legs as much as possible. One of the reasons kicking for goal hasn't improved during this ultra professional era I believe is that players are covering far more distance and are far more fatigue when taking shots on goal.

 

[Jelly Bean]

Just another kid, sadly added to the premature list of 'won't make it' off the back of one year. Deja vu it seems.

True, although 80% of the time you know if they are or aren't going to make if after their first year...

 

[TW Sherrin]

Liam jones
Nick winmar
George Hewitt
Michael close
Josh green
Tom lamb

These are the 6 taken at 32 in the drafts prior to sier. None of them look like stars to me. Hewitt and close are the only 2 that might have good careers . That's 2 of 6. 32 is a mid range pick that is hit and miss.

On sier I have no idea if he will make it. All I know is he was very under developed in football terms when we drafted him and in his first year he missed a huge chunk of the season. I think anyone with half a brain would agree it's perhaps best to give the kid a little time before making an informed opinion.

And the ones drafted after 32?

 

[Soups]

True, although 80% of the time you know if they are or aren't going to make if after their first year...

Hoping he does what his previous jumper number did.

 

[Apex36]

The dude has no tank, i feel I've been very clear on this.

How do you know what his tank is like? He barely played last year and going by the looks of it is much much fitter than he was 12 months ago.

His tank was an issue, but as far as running attributes go, endurance is something that can be substantially improved with the right training. I don't know why you're making out like it's something that can't be fixed.