Brett Deledio

[TimeFor11]

So next year looms as the year Lids goes BANG and jumps onto the scene as he showed at the end of this season. Only 20 years old so the scene is set however there are a few questions that need to be answered however.

Has he improved endurance and work rate?
What position to play him?

I think he should be a forward that floats in and out of the mids as he can kick 50+ goals in a season with his speed of the mark great kicking ability and probably the 3rd best DUKES at the club behind Richo and Polak.

Discuss.

 

[Darth_Tiger]

play him in a hird type role. forward and midfield at times.

 

[tigertiger]

play him in a hird type role. forward and midfield at times.

he is much more dangerous floating between the centre and forward lines
I also think he appeared to look a lot bigger towards the end of the season will be interesting to see how he looks after another pre-season and how that effects his game

 

[TimeFor11]

Yeh he is actually suprisingly big for someone so quick and skillful at 189cm and 90kg or there about. Which is the reason i like him forward. If he can become more agile like the Dal Santo types he will be more effective in the clearences.

 

[LuKe2428]

Yeh he is actually suprisingly big for someone so quick and skillful at 189cm and 90kg or there about. Which is the reason i like him forward. If he can become more agile like the Dal Santo types he will be more effective in the clearences.

i rekon play him as a full forward out of the goal squar 1 on 1he's proberly the fastest in the afl so no one will catxh him and 1 of the best hands he did it once last season against collingwood and kicked 5 goals wat u's think bout that idea

 

[captain blood 17]

play him in a hird type role. forward and midfield at times.

Agree. If he, brown and Petts can give 30 goals each next year, should do okay.

 

[darcytiger]

deledio>>>>>>>>hird
but seriously i dont think he has the tricks of a player like hird, didak, davis to play that role but i do also believe that he should play about half and half midfield and foward

 

[_Wang_]

Forward... to quick for anyone

 

[Rayzorwire]

Big enough to play CHF and it suits his strengths very well...could become a modern day Royce Hart.

Personally, I don't really see the point of having such a magnificent athlete if you play him at FF where generally only his sprint can be used to best effect.

At CHF, with a mature player's stamina to compliment his pace, he'd be close to unstoppable.

 

[Artie Bucco]

Big enough to play CHF and it suits his strengths very well...could become a modern day Royce Hart.

Personally, I don't really see the point of having such a magnificent athlete if you play him at FF where generally only his sprint can be used to best effect.

At CHF, with a mature player's stamina to compliment his pace, he'd be close to unstoppable.

I don't think he is tall or strong enough to play a modern day CHF role. The reason he did well at FF vs the pies is because there is limited traffic at FF and he is very fast.

At CHF he will get caught in traffic often, at his height I can't see him being able to take a dominant pack mark.

I'd liken Deledio more to a Judd type mid, he has tremendous pace and a little larger than your average mid. Even if he plays as an outside mid, and people like Foley are the ones feeding it to him, he could orchestrate a lot of play on the centre pushing to HF

And yes I think 08 will be a good year for him, your form at the beginning of the season doesn't do your ladder position justice, and then I believe with a young list, confidence shattered the rest of your season

 

[jackson_rules]

I don't think he is tall or strong enough to play a modern day CHF role. The reason he did well at FF vs the pies is because there is limited traffic at FF and he is very fast.

At CHF he will get caught in traffic often, at his height I can't see him being able to take a dominant pack mark.

I'd liken Deledio more to a Judd type mid, he has tremendous pace and a little larger than your average mid. Even if he plays as an outside mid, and people like Foley are the ones feeding it to him, he could orchestrate a lot of play on the centre pushing to HF

And yes I think 08 will be a good year for him, your form at the beginning of the season doesn't do your ladder position justice, and then I believe with a young list, confidence shattered the rest of your season

i think you will find is deledios conested marking is one of his key strengths, and his size atm he is huge for a 20 year old

 

[Drunken Wookie]

yeah 189cm and 90kg's at 20, he's tiny and will only get smaller as he matures...

 

[Artie Bucco]

Look i'm not disputing his contested marking abilities 1on1 but as a CHF I think his height will be his downfall.

Have a look at all the CHF going around

Lucas: 192cm
Riewoltd: 193cm
Cloke: 195cm
Franklin: 196cm (if you class him as a CHF)
Brown: 195cm

I can go on... If you want to play him as a permanent forward option he is more suited to be 1 out with his opponent as a Full Forward.

That's just my opinion, height doesn't have to stipulate the position you play, but with the Height of players getting taller in KP he will find it increasingly difficult to maintain CHF as undersized.

Personally I think his pace can be used better in the midfield if his body is up to it

 

[polakthetiger]

Look i'm not disputing his contested marking abilities 1on1 but as a CHF I think his height will be his downfall.

Have a look at all the CHF going around

Lucas: 192cm
Riewoltd: 193cm
Cloke: 195cm
Franklin: 196cm (if you class him as a CHF)
Brown: 195cm

I can go on... If you want to play him as a permanent forward option he is more suited to be 1 out with his opponent as a Full Forward.

That's just my opinion, height doesn't have to stipulate the position you play, but with the Height of players getting taller in KP he will find it increasingly difficult to maintain CHF as undersized.

Was it a simple oversight that you failed to mention the Pav at 191?? Or was that getting to close to Lids at 189??

Although I agree...I think he should be in the midfield, preferably centre, captain and basically running around wherever he likes racking up stats!! But I think Razor sees CHF now as a go anywhere, lead up type of position. The team of the century CHF Royce comparision maybe had you more focussed on the contested mark and him Lids being under 190. But the modern day CHF is more a lead up role now. So Lids could dominate the ground from there just like the Pav. And only have to worry about some CHB lump trying to keep up! Either way he will games for us off his own boot in the very near future!

 

[Artie Bucco]

Was it a simple oversight that you failed to mention the Pav at 191?? Or was that getting to close to Lids at 189??

Although I agree...I think he should be in the midfield, preferably centre, captain and basically running around wherever he likes racking up stats!! But I think Razor sees CHF now as a go anywhere, lead up type of position. The team of the century CHF Royce comparision maybe had you more focussed on the contested mark and him Lids being under 190. But the modern day CHF is more a lead up role now. So Lids could dominate the ground from there just like the Pav. And only have to worry about some CHB lump trying to keep up! Either way he will games for us off his own boot in the very near future!

The reason I ignored Pav was because with Tarrant in the side, he has been playing a lot closer to goal....

 

[marcmurphy3]

Was it a simple oversight that you failed to mention the Pav at 191?? Or was that getting to close to Lids at 189??

Although I agree...I think he should be in the midfield, preferably centre, captain and basically running around wherever he likes racking up stats!! But I think Razor sees CHF now as a go anywhere, lead up type of position. The team of the century CHF Royce comparision maybe had you more focussed on the contested mark and him Lids being under 190. But the modern day CHF is more a lead up role now. So Lids could dominate the ground from there just like the Pav. And only have to worry about some CHB lump trying to keep up! Either way he will games for us off his own boot in the very near future!

Pav is a completely different build and weighs 100kg which is about 10 more then Deledio. Lid's does not have the build to ever get that big.

He is batter suited at FF and could not play CHF effectively although I'd love to see him on a wing.

 

[polakthetiger]

Pav is a completely different build and weighs 100kg which is about 10 more then Deledio. Lid's does not have the build to ever get that big.

He is batter suited at FF and could not play CHF effectively although I'd love to see him on a wing.

He may keep developing by playing on the wing at times. But he should in 3 years be the captain and play centre. Period!

(However, we may all chip in and buy a years supply of protein packs for him and get him those 10kgs and prove you wrong about that build!!)

 

[marcmurphy3]

He may keep developing by playing on the wing at times. But he should in 3 years be the captain and play centre. Period!

(However, we may all chip in and buy a years supply of protein packs for him and get him those 10kgs and prove you wrong about that build!!)

Any chance of Foley becoming captain?

 

[Drunken Wookie]

Any chance of Foley becoming captain?

Honestly he'd be my number one choice out of our youngsters, when he got concussed early in the west coast game and you watched him on the bench looking like a starving dog being held back from a porterhouse, that sealed it for me. foley is 100% all about footy and would make a truly great captain one day imo.

 

[Saul Hudson]

I reckon lids should start as a deep leading forward but pushed to the middle about half way thru the second quarter when the heat has come off a bit. With his pace no one will able to stay with him and he should run thru the lines with ease.

 

[W. Smithers]

I see Deledio as a HFF type and when he gets to 25-26 they'll do a Gehrig or Gary Ablett Snr with him.

Bulk him up to 100kg and make him a full forward.

Lightning quick, strong hands, good kick, impossible match-up.

 

[tugga]

At CHF he will get caught in traffic often, at his height I can't see him being able to take a dominant pack mark.

Lids is one of the better overhead, contested marks on our list, although i do agree CHF doesn't suit him.
Hopefully McMahon can hold down a back flanker's position to free up Deledio. I think Deledio's best position is wherever we need him at the time. That's his strength. the fact that he is 189cm and fast and a good mark, he can play pretty much anywhere.

 

[Bazzar]

Here is something i didnt know. I knew he was at Caufield, but i didnt know Wallace took him out.

Acording to Wikipedia "Whilst many may not know this, Brett was actually enrolled to attend Caulfield Grammar School which is the same school that hosted the likes of Chris Judd and Andrew Walker. Unfortunately after only a handful of days at the school it is believed that Terry Wallace pulled him out due to the pressurised season which was ahead of him in 2005. Brett Deledio went on to study with a tutor and won the Rising Star award for the best young star of 2005."

Is it a right of a football coach to make a decision like that, or is their more to the story than it appears

 

[_RT_]

Spoke about this in another thread and basically I would like to see Deledio, Brown and M.Morton rotate between onball, HF and FP.

For example here is a possible line up:

C: Tambling Coughlan Newman
HF: Pettifer Richo M.Morton
F: Brown Schulz Riewoldt
R: Simmonds Deledio Foley

We would leave Richo, Petts, Riewoldt and Schulz as the 4 forwards and have Brown, Deledio, M.Morton rotate amongst themselves. Short sharp 5 minute bursts on the ball with the rest of their time being spent floating around the F50.

 

[tugga]

Spoke about this in another thread and basically I would like to see Deledio, Brown and M.Morton rotate between onball, HF and FP.

For example here is a possible line up:

C: Tambling Coughlan Newman
HF: Pettifer Richo M.Morton
F: Brown Schulz Riewoldt
R: Simmonds Deledio Foley

We would leave Richo, Petts, Riewoldt and Schulz as the 4 forwards and have Brown, Deledio, M.Morton rotate amongst themselves. Short sharp 5 minute bursts on the ball with the rest of their time being spent floating around the F50.

I like it
Although I don't think there should be any overwhelming rush to push Riewoldt on and I can't see a spot for Schulz in such a crowded forward line. The Richo-Schulz together just didn't work last year.
other than that, I like your idea of quick rotations, pinch-hitting in the midfield for 20% and spending the rest roaming the forward line, hunting in packs.
By doing this, we decrease our reliance on Richo when he calls it a day, which could be as early as the end of 2008.
With this plan of attack, we are working towards a better life without Richo being the sole focus.
Gone are the days of one forward commanding all the attention.