News Brown back on track

[TradeDraft]

The 22-year-old partially dislocated his right shoulder in a mid-season VFL match, but did not require surgery at the time.
Even though Brown missed a month of football, he was able to sufficiently strengthen the joint to return to senior action by round 18.
Brown said a positive meeting with his surgeon in the lead-up to Christmas confirmed he was recovering well.
"He said I'm about two-and-a-half weeks ahead of schedule [in my recovery], so he reckons I should be right for practice matches," Brown told afl.com.au.
"We're back on the 10th of January so by then I should be able to do contact stuff and be ready to go.
"The surgery was more just to tighten it up. It was more precautionary, just so it doesn't happen again."

Fair Effort from Rambo to stop Rievoldt when not even 100%

http://www.collingwoodfc.com.au/newsfeatures/news/newsarticle/tabid/5586/newsid/106533/default.aspx

 

[HFF]

Really stepped up when we needed him and did it playing hurt too.

Really love the way he speaks too about how he sees himself now and in the future, his partnership with Reidy and the learning experiences he has had with form, injury, being dropped etc.

Very much a team player. Credit to himself and to Mick for getting a young player to understand the relationship/importance between team and individual.

 

[gravy1]

I remember some quotes from him after he learned he was dropped in the lead up to the first Grand Final and how he said it was understandable, it's always team first and he has no qualms about being dropped. This guy just seems like the epitome of team man. Can see him as a club leader in the future.

 

[mattys123]

I love this story, because the StKilda supporters excuse for the way that Rievolting performed in both Grand Finals was that Riewoldt himself wasn't 100% fit.

Now we find out his opponent was struggling with an injury that occurred in the season also, it cuts out any excuses for that over rated blonde w***er, who has now played in 3 Grand Finals, and had next to no impact in all 3 games.

 

[The 10th Letter]

Good news and hopefully he can have a solid pre-season after the break and keep his finals form running into and throughout 2011.

I think Brown's perseverance deserves a mention as well. He's spent a fair bit of time in the seconds and seems to have kept a great attitude about it all, worked hard and eventually got the best possible reward. His performance throughout the finals was nothing short of exceptional, with his job on Riewoldt - not just once but twice - being simply brilliant.

He really does come across as team first, which is a great quality and fits right within our modus operandi. He is now a vital component of our team and will enter next year as a first choice player, hopefully he can really take off from this point on.

 

[Jelly Bean]

I love this story, because the StKilda supporters excuse for the way that Rievolting performed in both Grand Finals was that Riewoldt himself wasn't 100% fit.

Now we find out his opponent was struggling with an injury that occurred in the season also, it cuts out any excuses for that over rated blonde w***er, who has now played in 3 Grand Finals, and had next to no impact in all 3 games.

I think you are being a little harsh on Reiwoldt there Matty123. Reiwoldt is am absolute gun on and off the field. Agreed, he didn't play well in the GFs but I wouldn't suggest he is overrated.

 

[jimmy_clement#8]

What I love so very much.

The talls in our spine:

Nathan Brown 17 Decemeber 1988
Ben Reid 29 April 1989
Travis Cloke 5 March 1987
Chris Dawes 16 May 1988

 

[Swooop]

I think you are being a little harsh on Reiwoldt there Matty123. Reiwoldt is am absolute gun on and off the field. Agreed, he didn't play well in the GFs but I wouldn't suggest he is overrated.

Hi Jelly Bean.

I enjoyed this post...esp you defending the overrated bit.

Notice you didn't address the blond w***er bit though?

Design or accident??!! Funny either way

 

[PieBeast]

I think you are being a little harsh on Reiwoldt there Matty123. Reiwoldt is am absolute gun on and off the field. Agreed, he didn't play well in the GFs but I wouldn't suggest he is overrated.

What makes you say that ?


ps. Loved that article, Rambo comes across as a very determined and committed young man

 

[Jelly Bean]

What makes you say that ?

He is a club leader and captain and widely known throughout the AFL community (including the administration and press) as one who sets a fine example off the field and contributes a great deal.

We don't need cheap pots at opposition champions to make our club appear better.

 

[Jelly Bean]

Hi Jelly Bean.

I enjoyed this post...esp you defending the overrated bit.

Notice you didn't address the blond w***er bit though?

Design or accident??!! Funny either way

Well, he is blond, so I couldn't really contest that bit, and I am sure he has at some point had a wank (haven't we alll...?) so I found no fault with that accusation.

 

[mattys123]

I think you are being a little harsh on Reiwoldt there Matty123. Reiwoldt is am absolute gun on and off the field. Agreed, he didn't play well in the GFs but I wouldn't suggest he is overrated.

No doubt Riewoldt is a bloody good player, but when your career is over, you are largely judged by how you performed in the big games, and his career record in big games is pretty poor to say the least, especially Grand Finals.

It has to tarnish his career "legacy".

 

[PieBeast]

He is a club leader and captain and widely known throughout the AFL community (including the administration and press) as one who sets a fine example off the field and contributes a great deal.

We don't need cheap pots at opposition champions to make our club appear better.

Would love to know examples of him setting "a fine example off the field".

 

[cfx_1]

Riewoldt = Gun

I think having an impact in big games a a power forward is very hard to do. So much effort goes into nullifying them that its almost impossible to "win it" off his own boot.

Still a tool though. And needs regular doses of cement to harden up.

 

[jonbe54]

Riewoldt = Gun

I think having an impact in big games a a power forward is very hard to do. So much effort goes into nullifying them that its almost impossible to "win it" off his own boot.

Still a tool though. And needs regular doses of cement to harden up.

Gary Abblett Snr says hi

 

[mattys123]

Gary Abblett Snr says hi

Gordon Coventry says hello also (averaged 4 goals in Grand Finals).

 

[Bay Pie]

He is a club leader and captain and widely known throughout the AFL community (including the administration and press) as one who sets a fine example off the field and contributes a great deal.

We don't need cheap pots at opposition champions to make our club appear better.

He became the sole player to continue to dive for free kicks this year.

Who'll forget that dive at the start of the final quarter?? against the Dogs in last years PF. Lake bumps him Reiwoldt goes flying and gets a free kick in front of the sticks.

2010 Rd1-Heath Grundy nudges him before a ball up, Reiwoldt goes sprwaling to fground, gets a gimme free kick and goal.
2010 Rd2-Lachie Hansen FFS, gives him a push, Reiwoldt again goes sprawling to ground and gets a free kick and gimme goal.
2010 Rd3-Of his meagre 4 touches in the 1st half against us, 2 are from free kicks, one from an Anvil bump where again Reiwoldt goes sprawling to ground, gets a free kick but misses the goal.

He knows that opponents like to continually bump & nudge him. Most, if not all, forwards put up with it. To counteract that, Reiwoldt throws himself on the ground to get a free kick.

These incidents are let go in most other cases but Reiwoldt is clearly favoured by the umps with this.

I just can't respect a guy that continually does that.

As for Browny, I think he had 5 goals kicked on him in 4 finals games agaionst Reiwoldt twice, Barry Hall & J.Pod. All focal point forwards of their respective teams.

 

[Jelly Bean]

He became the sole player to continue to dive for free kicks this year.

Who'll forget that dive at the start of the final quarter?? against the Dogs in last years PF. Lake bumps him Reiwoldt goes flying and gets a free kick in front of the sticks.

2010 Rd1-Heath Grundy nudges him before a ball up, Reiwoldt goes sprwaling to fground, gets a gimme free kick and goal.
2010 Rd2-Lachie Hansen FFS, gives him a push, Reiwoldt again goes sprawling to ground and gets a free kick and gimme goal.
2010 Rd3-Of his meagre 4 touches in the 1st half against us, 2 are from free kicks, one from an Anvil bump where again Reiwoldt goes sprawling to ground, gets a free kick but misses the goal.

He knows that opponents like to continually bump & nudge him. Most, if not all, forwards put up with it. To counteract that, Reiwoldt throws himself on the ground to get a free kick.

These incidents are let go in most other cases but Reiwoldt is clearly favoured by the umps with this.

I just can't respect a guy that continually does that.

As for Browny, I think he had 5 goals kicked on him in 4 finals games agaionst Reiwoldt twice, Barry Hall & J.Pod. All focal point forwards of their respective teams.

What evidence do you have that these "dives" that were paid as free kicks were actually not free kicks? And even if they weren't, it was the umpires who paid them, maybe the problem is with the umpires rather than the player? If Reiwoldt can do this and get rewarded for it (with goals), why shouldn't he do it?

And there is no doubt Brown did an exceptional job against Reiwoldt twice, and also the other forwards he was trusted with. All credit to him for showing that he is coming of age as a key defender. It will be interesting to see if he continues it next year.

But again, it would be a hard case to muster to suggest Reiwoldt wasn't a champion.

 

[Bay Pie]

What evidence do you have that these "dives" that were paid as free kicks were actually not free kicks? And even if they weren't, it was the umpires who paid them, maybe the problem is with the umpires rather than the player? If Reiwoldt can do this and get rewarded for it (with goals), why shouldn't he do it?

But again, it would be a hard case to muster to suggest Reiwoldt wasn't a champion.

Because 'champions' of the game don't need to do that, to get the footy and kick goals.

I watched the incidents No further evidence required. When you think 'that was as soft a free kick as you can get' think of those Reiwoldt incidents. Reiwoldt can hold his own when in a martking contest when the ball is lobbed long onto his head but a nudge sees him sprawling to the turf

Very good player yes, but the term champion gets bandied around way to easy these days for it separate the very good players from the absolute best.

 

[TradeDraft]

He became the sole player to continue to dive for free kicks this year.

Who'll forget that dive at the start of the final quarter?? against the Dogs in last years PF. Lake bumps him Reiwoldt goes flying and gets a free kick in front of the sticks.

2010 Rd1-Heath Grundy nudges him before a ball up, Reiwoldt goes sprwaling to fground, gets a gimme free kick and goal.
2010 Rd2-Lachie Hansen FFS, gives him a push, Reiwoldt again goes sprawling to ground and gets a free kick and gimme goal.
2010 Rd3-Of his meagre 4 touches in the 1st half against us, 2 are from free kicks, one from an Anvil bump where again Reiwoldt goes sprawling to ground, gets a free kick but misses the goal.

He knows that opponents like to continually bump & nudge him. Most, if not all, forwards put up with it. To counteract that, Reiwoldt throws himself on the ground to get a free kick.

These incidents are let go in most other cases but Reiwoldt is clearly favoured by the umps with this.

I just can't respect a guy that continually does that.

As for Browny, I think he had 5 goals kicked on him in 4 finals games agaionst Reiwoldt twice, Barry Hall & J.Pod. All focal point forwards of their respective teams.

So Reivoldt is the new Princess now that Lloyd has Retired

 

[Swooop]

So Reivoldt is the new Princess now that Lloyd has Retired

I think the umpires were pretty good overall this year, esp the finals I thinght they did well.

However, they're human and they have their favourites.

Judd and Riewoldt across all the teams, are the standout 'umpires pets' IMO.

Riewoldt def. gets soft free kicks, in comparison to what other forwards get. Though I didn't think this was the case in the grand finals.

I think Judd winning the brownlow brought the issue of 'umpires' pets' into focus for the AFL, and i remember at the time, I was hopeful the knee jerk reaction may flow down to having a 'evening up' process with umpiring through the GFs, ie that Riewoldt wouldn't get his soft frees as easily.

But, like Pavlov's dog, you can't blame him that much, if he too frequently gets rewarded for staging for frees, that's the umpires fault.

But it's a bad look, makes oppo supporters hate you, and i think Lloyd's reputation is less than it otherwise would have been, due to his diving.

Riewoldt has to do more in finals to be considered a champion IMO, he's obviously an excellent player, but not yet a great of the game.

 

[kevind]

I love this story, because the StKilda supporters excuse for the way that Rievolting performed in both Grand Finals was that Riewoldt himself wasn't 100% fit.

Now we find out his opponent was struggling with an injury that occurred in the season also, it cuts out any excuses for that over rated blonde w***er, who has now played in 3 Grand Finals, and had next to no impact in all 3 games.

If you watch GF 1 again, Riewoldt actually played very well . Could have easily kicked 4 goals before 3 quarter time. Impressive as in the second quarter, the ball only entered the Saints forward line 3 times. The expectations on these superstars sometimes are a bit unreasonable.

 

[mattys123]

If you watch GF 1 again, Riewoldt actually played very well . Could have easily kicked 4 goals before 3 quarter time. Impressive as in the second quarter, the ball only entered the Saints forward line 3 times. The expectations on these superstars sometimes are a bit unreasonable.

But that's what I'm saying, that ultimately, unless he gets another chance at a grand final, he will never be put in the "upper echelon" of the "superstars" of the game, simply because of his performances and results in Grand Finals.

That's what you get when you are an elite AFL footballer, the expectations are high, and rightfully so, would you allow a "Rooney" or a "Malouda" to play "average" in an FA Cup Final, or a Champions League final?, no, because you expect better out of them, and throughout the years we have all been told how good Riewoldt is, yet apart from a "decent" performance in patches during GF1 in 2010, he has been plain ordinary (not terrible, just average) in 3 Grand Finals.

I'm not deliberately trying to "put him down", I'm just saying that in years to come, if he doesn't get another chance at a GF, or he doesn't perform as expected if he gets that chance, he won't be held in as high a regard as the greats of our game who have performed on the big stage, the likes of Bereton, Ablett (Sr and Jr), Peter Matera, Andrew McLeod, (could go on forever there).

As for the thread topic, could Nate be a Presti replacement in just about every sense? He is humble, he is a single minded defender (maybe a little more attacking then Presti), and he always seems to say the right thing, on the very odd occasion you hear him speak.

And to think some said before the season started that we wouldn't win the flag with Reid and Brown at CHB and FB.

 

[Boris the Contradiction]

Judd and Riewoldt across all the teams, are the standout 'umpires pets' IMO.

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Riewoldt has to do more in finals to be considered a champion IMO, he's obviously an excellent player, but not yet a great of the game.

J Selwood has done enough work to feel gutted to be left out of the first statement.

Agree with the second statement. Bloody star though.

 

[Swooop]

J Selwood has done enough work to feel gutted to be left out of the first statement.
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Apologies, must have been too much Christmas cheer