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kelvin_sheedy

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It's a shame that he's been hounded out of a few places. I think we need a place where we can collate all his work and have a reference point. He's done some stellar work lately.

Whether you agree or not with his opinion he does have a lot of material to work with and access to documents and people "involved in the process"

No opposition supporters please. The foamers have been hounding him wherever he goes.

Here's his latest doozy about Gil.

http://www.bombertalk4.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=15707
 
Hmmmmmmmmm....
 
Whilst he makes some valid points, he always strikes me as being two cans short of a case.
 

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kelvin_sheedy said:
It's a shame that he's been hounded out of a few places. I think we need a place where we can collate all his work and have a reference point. He's done some stellar work lately.

Whether you agree or not with his opinion he does have a lot of material to work with and access to documents and people "involved in the process"

No opposition supporters please. The foamers have been hounding him wherever he goes.

Here's his latest doozy about Gil.

http://www.bombertalk4.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=15707
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When you see those comments from the Fat campaigner Andy, using the benefit of hindsight, it really was disgusting what he did and I would laugh if he went to jail for this shit. **** him.
 
Stopher said:
When you see those comments from the Fat campaigner Andy, using the benefit of hindsight, it really was disgusting what he did and I would laugh if he went to jail for this shit. **** him.
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Thats the great thing about Bruce's work. Regardless of whether you agree with him or not, he puts a lot of the information out in chronological order and you get a nice detailed picture of what parties were up to.

The Vlad stuff is absolutely despicable. How he was allowed to get away with that is one of our many failings.
 
The Prosecutor said:
Bruce Francis is an embarrassment and his 'open letters' are just sad on top of embarrassing.
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Bit harsh?
Whilst i dont agree with his writing style or the way he goes about spreading his opinion, he has done a fair chunk of investigative work that has filled some blanks in.
 

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The Prosecutor said:
Bruce Francis is an embarrassment and his 'open letters' are just sad on top of embarrassing.
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For what its worth despite given Bruce the forum to speak I disagree with him a lot.

But the word embarrassing amuses me. How in the hell is he embarrassing?
 
the guy is a freakshow. A complete fruitcake.

Yes, he has some access to some documents. Yes he is utterly obsessive. But he lost me completely the more I saw his belligerent, spiteful, inane belittling of anyone who disagrees with him.

He's a nasty piece of work.

Anyone who buys his whole "I'm just an innocent, layman, disinterested observer" schtick would do well to understand he represented Greg Ritchie when he was defending his racist slur episode. He represented him in a quasi-legal environment ffs.

I don't like any zealot from either side. Seriously, **** Bruce Francis
 
Think Bruce Francis was employed because of his access to the Liberal Party - Unfortunately this hasn't happened at all - Some would argue he has driven the Liberal party further away.
 
Lance Uppercut said:
the guy is a freakshow. A complete fruitcake.

Yes, he has some access to some documents. Yes he is utterly obsessive. But he lost me completely the more I saw his belligerent, spiteful, inane belittling of anyone who disagrees with him.

He's a nasty piece of work.

Anyone who buys his whole "I'm just an innocent, layman, disinterested observer" schtick would do well to understand he represented Greg Ritchie when he was defending his racist slur episode. He represented him in a quasi-legal environment ffs.

I don't like any zealot from either side. Seriously, **** Bruce Francis
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I think this is the point, as long as you focus on this, and cut out his opinion, his arguements and just use what he has access to to help you form your own opinion theres nothing wrong with that.

I didnt however know about the racism thing, and i have only read some of his articles (his writing style i find horrible as ive mentioned previously) so if what you say is true maybe The Prosecutor is on the right track when he calls him Embarrassing. I had no idea he was that bad.
 
Jade said:
Whilst he makes some valid points, he always strikes me as being two cans short of a case.
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Only two? He's either got a lot of anger simmering away or is very good at giving that impression.
 
I think it's important to remember that just because he might have some access to certain documents, he has as much affect on the outcome than you and I.

It's kind of a waste of time in my opinion.
 

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Bruce Francis...... as awkward as leaving your 4 year old son in the care of the pope.

Your nervous....... at the situation
 
Lance Uppercut said:
the guy is a freakshow. A complete fruitcake.

Yes, he has some access to some documents. Yes he is utterly obsessive. But he lost me completely the more I saw his belligerent, spiteful, inane belittling of anyone who disagrees with him.

He's a nasty piece of work.

Anyone who buys his whole "I'm just an innocent, layman, disinterested observer" schtick would do well to understand he represented Greg Ritchie when he was defending his racist slur episode. He represented him in a quasi-legal environment ffs.

I don't like any zealot from either side. Seriously, **** Bruce Francis
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I struggle severely with his links to Alan Jones et al.

Having said that, I gain a guilty little pleasure out of reading him belittling Caro, Smith and the AFL after all the one-sided crap they've had free-reign to peddle in the MSM.

He comes across as being uber-defensive and whilst I enjoy his belittling of the above-mentioned, I don't think he gains much credibility by incessantly belittling every person who attempts to counter his views.

TBH, I'd love it if some of his perspective gained some traction in the MSM, but that is a very long shot.
 
un_eggs said:
I struggle severely with his links to Alan Jones et al.

Having said that, I gain a guilty little pleasure out of reading him belittling Caro, Smith and the AFL after all the one-sided crap they've had free-reign to peddle in the MSM.

He comes across as being uber-defensive and whilst I enjoy his belittling of the above-mentioned, I don't think he gains much credibility by incessantly belittling every person who attempts to counter his views.

TBH, I'd love it if some of his perspective gained some traction in the MSM, but that is a very long shot.
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There are times he steps over the mark but those people have got away with some of the most vindictive and nasty reporting we've ever seen. He has rightly called them out on their bias and their profession. Their unsubstantiated sources. Their opinions and research.

They have got away with murder on this. Like a pack of vultures they have descended and barely anyone has fought back from our side.

His dissection of Vlad is a pure work of art.
 
Im not surprised that bruce Francis has won your admiration Kelvin.
 
:eek: This isn't the same Bruce Francis who apparently played cricket for Australia is it?
 

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