Campbell

[1980]

With DK and Rogers doing the right thing this week and announcing their retirements, how many out there believe Wayne Campbell should do the same? Should he play on another year or two, or should he have no part in the imminent rebuilding the new coach will do over the next?

I'm a bit colored on Wayne as he was my pet hate for many years due to his quick kicks, but I have to (grudgingly) admit he's been great for us since he was made captain.

But I think the timing may be right for him to retire.

 

[Mog]

The thought might be that we need his experience for a while under the new regime, whoever it might be. Might be a good idea for him to go out now though.

 

[Tiger Survivor]

When Danny Frawley had the press conference about giving it up at the end of the year, Wayne seemed pretty adamant that he'll be playing at least until the end of 2005.

 

[1980GFVideo]

If we had the foresight years ago to know we would be in this position we would have traded Rogers, Kellaway and Campbell for draft picks.

Imagine what we might have had we done that. Would have been a bold move but thats what good coaches do. not afraid to upset for progress.

I hope that finals appearance that we made isn't in someway the worse thing that could have happened to us. That and Danny Frawley.

 

[GhostofJimJess]

Originally posted by 1980GFVideo
If we had the foresight years ago to know we would be in this position we would have traded Rogers, Kellaway and Campbell for draft picks.

I was a great advocate at the time of trading Matty Rogers after season 1999 ... the time was right then for a certain Top 10 swap with Adelaide or even Port.

Just two years later he was untradeable ... opportunity gone.

 

[Fishfinger]

Originally posted by 1980
I'm a bit colored on Wayne as he was my pet hate for many years due to his quick kicks, but I have to (grudgingly) admit he's been great for us since he was made captain.

But I think the timing may be right for him to retire.

I think you're a good judge 1980. I also think Wayne's time might be up.
The way he is now reminds of the last playing weeks of Matthew Knights, looking frustrated because he can't play as he knows he can. He is hampered to the extent he has lost pace and depth on his kicks. His football "smarts" means he is holding his own in the side but he is nowhere near his normally excellent standard that has made him a champion.

 

[JohnF]

Not that its the best indication of how well a player is going, (and I know the critics of Campbell's disposal will point this out) but Campbell is still getting 21+ touches per game which is pretty reasonable. Also, Campbell is still probably in the top handful of players in our best and fairest this year. Knights was getting about 15 touches per game in his last season and wouldnt have been one of our best players when he gave it away. So I don't think the two are quite analogisable at this stage.

As I've said before, Cambo is still good enough for a spot in our team, but he isn't playing anywhere near as well as he has in the past and he is embarassing himself compared to the standard he had set over the last 5 years.

If we had some better leaders it would have made it a lot easier for him to retire gracefully at the end of the year, but most likely he'll go on and make a Knigher of himself next year, fading rapidly as the year goes on.

I'd like to see him retire rather than face the embarassment Knighter did sitting on the bench and watching hacks like Tivendale run around when you know fully well they aren't half the player you were in your prime.

Still, he'll probably go on...

 

[IDGAF]

Originally posted by 1980GFVideo
If we had the foresight years ago to know we would be in this position we would have traded Rogers, Kellaway and Campbell for draft picks.

Imagine what we might have had we done that. Would have been a bold move but thats what good coaches do. not afraid to upset for progress.

I hope that finals appearance that we made isn't in someway the worse thing that could have happened to us. That and Danny Frawley.

Don`t agree with to much of this . Rogers i would have traded , no worries there . But D Kellaway ????????? thats tantamount to treason as far as i am concerned . For years that bloke played on the oppositions best player week in , week out and not only spanked them on a regular basis but would pick up his 20 touches in the midfield and across half back . He was easily our most couragous for the last decade or so . I attribute his inability to get out on the park in the last 2-3 years as a big factor in our slide since 2001 and he was one of the few genuine on field leaders we had .
You cant look at players when they are 27-28 and go we`ll trade them because they might start getting injured . Thats a crock
I find it genuinely offencive that people would say we should have traded him .... Bloody disrespectful.

 

[Bojangles17]

Originally posted by IDGAF


I find it genuinely offencive that people would say we should have traded him .... Bloody disrespectful.

I have put up similar argument for andy kellaway, couragous as they come now entering twilight of career...for what we would possibly get for him in trade it is foolish to even consider..

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

CC mentioned when it was decided to link the great jack dyer,s number with the captaincy that he would like to give up the captaincy and play the following year so he can retire with his #9.
to be truthfull here i believe cambo,s archillies has not healed properly and is now somewhat restricted.
age has caught up with the ol warrior and im not sure if its in the best interests of the club or himself if he is to continue beyond this year.

cheers!

 

[tigirlpower]

Re: Re: Campbell

Originally posted by Fishfinger
I think you're a good judge 1980.

Surely you are joking fishfinger.

 

[IDGAF]

Originally posted by tiger of old
CC mentioned when it was decided to link the great jack dyer,s number with the captaincy that he would like to give up the captaincy and play the following year so he can retire with his #9.
to be truthfull here i believe cambo,s archillies has not healed properly and is now somewhat restricted.
age has caught up with the ol warrior and im not sure if its in the best interests of the club or himself if he is to continue beyond this year.

cheers!

I remeber "disco" Roach snapping his achilles late in his career and it basically ended him . It is probably a worse injury than a knee reco and i said at the time it would be the end of him . I`m no doctor but snapped tendons just don`t heel properly . I think cambo knows his time is up . Maybe there is a non playing role for him at the club next year ???

 

[1980GFVideo]

Originally posted by IDGAF
Don`t agree with to much of this . Rogers i would have traded , no worries there . But D Kellaway ????????? thats tantamount to treason as far as i am concerned . For years that bloke played on the oppositions best player week in , week out and not only spanked them on a regular basis but would pick up his 20 touches in the midfield and across half back . He was easily our most couragous for the last decade or so . I attribute his inability to get out on the park in the last 2-3 years as a big factor in our slide since 2001 and he was one of the few genuine on field leaders we had .
You cant look at players when they are 27-28 and go we`ll trade them because they might start getting injured . Thats a crock
I find it genuinely offencive that people would say we should have traded him .... Bloody disrespectful.

Its not a case of disrespecting him as he is the player that probably deservers the most respect. Its a case of knowing where you are as a football club and what tact you need to take as far as building a list.

If they could have acknowledged that we needed to take the plunge and build from scratch as people are suggesting we need to do now with sustained success in the future as the goal then at least we would have had something to trade with. I dont think we are in that position at the moment

I know its a callous thing to trade a good servant of the club like Kellaway but like the Croad for Hodge deal that Hawthorn did, gutsy decisions in the face of sentiment are needed.

BTW
I know there is a better example there somewhere - I know the hawks are on the bottom of the ladder but they got Hodge.

 

[IDGAF]

Originally posted by 1980GFVideo
Its not a case of disrespecting him as he is the player that probably deservers the most respect. Its a case of knowing where you are as a football club and what tact you need to take as far as building a list.

If they could have acknowledged that we needed to take the plunge and build from scratch as people are suggesting we need to do now with sustained success in the future as the goal then at least we would have had something to trade with. I dont think we are in that position at the moment

I know its a callous thing to trade a good servant of the club like Kellaway but like the Croad for Hodge deal that Hawthorn did, gutsy decisions in the face of sentiment are needed.

BTW
I know there is a better example there somewhere - I know the hawks are on the bottom of the ladder but they got Hodge.

Your barking up the wrong tree there 1980, barring injuries Kella would nearly have been captain .
Croad wasn`t nearly the servant at Hawthorn that D.Kellaway was at Richmond , sorry mate , plenty of other cattle i would have of-loaded before him.
And anyway ,during that period we did do that exact form of recruiting/trading . We traded Chris Bond to freo for thier first round pick with which we used to pick up Brad Ottens
Your right pal , better think up some better examples

 

[1980GFVideo]

Originally posted by IDGAF
Your barking up the wrong tree there 1980, barring injuries Kella would nearly have been captain .
Croad wasn`t nearly the servant at Hawthorn that D.Kellaway was at Richmond , sorry mate , plenty of other cattle i would have of-loaded before him.
And anyway ,during that period we did do that exact form of recruiting/trading . We traded Chris Bond to freo for thier first round pick with which we used to pick up Brad Ottens
Your right pal , better think up some better examples

The Bond for Ottens trade was about the only example of trading a player who was value for the day for something that would translate into benefits for tommorrow. We have recruited for immediate success in most other cases.

Wallace is only now being vindicated for the Cameron trade with those draft picks now coming on (Hahn i think is one of them).

We have taken the stance of keeping performing players on good contracts - Although Duncan and Andrew have been totaly fair with thier dealings with the club unlike others - and trading draft picks for players over 25 all culminating in only one year of finals football.

Had decisions that flew in the face of 'good servants for the club' been taken then we wouldn't be sitting back conceding that it will be around 2007 that we may have a side that will play in finals.

Bond was as honest (Danny talk) for the club as they come and they traded him successfully . Do you disagree with that trade?