Capped rotations

[Mike I]

Consider: Would Hayden Ballantyne have played last week under this system?

 

[Kunna17]

It's one of the few rules in world sport where a player is penalised for taking possession of the ball. The other I can think of is the tip off in basketball.

soccer, any1 but the goalie

 

[coldlunch]

I can never understand the need some people have for finding solutions to problems that don't exist. Why aren't you allowed to take the ball directly out of ruck contest? What problem does that absurd rule solve?

because then we would be subjected to an endless loop of ruck contests that go nowhere and infuriate everyone.

 

[Fireballs]

120 rotations won't make any difference next year, but, this is only the start. The AFL are getting everyone used to the cap and then they will make it smaller each year.

 

[Schauermann]

I can never understand the need some people have for finding solutions to problems that don't exist. Why aren't you allowed to take the ball directly out of ruck contest? What problem does that absurd rule solve?

Think about the same.

And what happen in case of 1 minute to go, 1 point margin, 120 rotations done, 1 player knocked out?

 

[Mockcockpit]

because then we would be subjected to an endless loop of ruck contests that go nowhere and infuriate everyone.

Fair enough, I must have missed the week when that became a blight on the game and brought about a reactionary law change. What provisions of the existing holding the ball rule were rendered inadequate by a big man taking full possession at a throw-in?

 

[Taylor]

Fair enough, I must have missed the week when that became a blight on the game and brought about a reactionary law change. What provisions of the existing holding the ball rule were rendered inadequate by a big man taking full possession at a throw-in?

Prior opportunity. Six points up with a minute to go in the fourth, Sandi takes possession, is wrapped up while 'attempting to get rid of the ball', another stoppage, another 15 seconds off the clock. Over and over.

There was a period where the umpire looked for a free if there were more than two stoppages in a row, they'd find something to move the ball along.

 

[Bicco]

I'm interested to see how this whole thing turns out. Did anyone else notice that last week our team was made up of about 2/3 midfielders, or at least players that can rotate through the midfield? The traditionalist in me would like to still see ' footballers' play AFL rather than just athletes. 120 rotations won't make that much difference, but as other posters have said, if it slowly reduces over a few seasons, that will make a difference.
Maybe we'll see Fyfe spending more time in the forwardline, kicking goals and taking screamers!

 

[Purple_Voice]

So, the AFL has approved capped rotations for next year - I think this would affect us positively being a highly fit team but we also use a lot of rotations (anyone have the numbers on this?).

Thoughts?

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-08-27/afl-brings-in-interchange-cap-

Difficult to find average rotations per team for 2013.

So far I have found:
* Freo (145.2)
* Adelaide (143.8)
* Hawks (142.8)
* GWS (141.8)

Every other team below the 140 mark.
Current average per team: 133

That will have to be a big drop for us, from 145.2 average to 120 maximum.

 

[Seppo]

Difficult to find average rotations per team for 2013.

So far I have found:
* Freo (145.2)
* Adelaide (143.8)
* Hawks (142.8)
* GWS (141.8)

Every other team below the 140 mark.
Current average per team: 133

That will have to be a big drop for us, from 145.2 average to 120 maximum.

Like someone has mentioned already, if a player stays out there after a goal that cuts 15-20 rotations out per game.

I really hope teams aren't penalised when injuries occur when they are at 120 interchanges late in a game. Wonder if they go down the path of a player been treated off the field like in soccer without going through the interchange gates so it doesn't count as a 'rotation'.

Saw this image on another board which made me laugh, it is quite ridiculous where things are heading...

 

[ozzie69]

It shouldn't be a problem - there will just be more midfielders rotating to the pockets and more pocket players having spells in the midfield.

 

[Taylor]

I wonder how Rioli's hamstrings will handle that.

 

[FrancisX]

I actually think the cap is a good thing and needs to happen.

The only major concern I have is - how much training needs to go into this - I hope the premiership won't be determined by who utilizes the the rule better. If you consider where things are at - you have MM blasting his team for not have enough Int rotations, it is largely what players have learned to do.

Players take themselves off - and pick their opportunities. The better sides are also more professional and understand how the 'systems' work. That will probably be true now under the cap. But I imagine it would take a bit of time to perfect.

But though I am not a doctor - I look at the ridiculous amount of injuries; esp soft tissue, and I lean towards the cap is probably going to be better. I know different types of games can be more prone to certain types of injuries but, unless it is just a freak year, the amount of season ending is a cause for concern.

I think the game needs to be slowed down. A lot of the rule tweaks have made the game faster by making the game move quicker - there have been numerous advantages but I would say injuries (but I could be completely wrong) is the major down side. Coaches will still instruct their players to 'run both ways' but I reckon you need the human element of fatigue to kick in more so eventually there is less of the two way running happening which I believe is the major problem.

I believe the cap needs to be about 80 - in saying that it might be too much of reduction for players are currently used to. 120 is still very high. But resting players now may involve 'resting players' up forward more I guess.

Maybe North will be best suited to this rule, I have hear Petrie spent an entire match on the ground and fans have repetitively complained Goldstein has been burnt out by his coach.

 

[FrancisX]

Maybe 80 will be the aim in a few seasons to allow players and coaches to adjust - because I wonder if 120 will make a substantial difference.

 

[Nickos66]

Coaches will start to be VERY mindful of getting anywhere near the 120 mark towards the end of the game. Let me set the scene: Imagine if it was the 4th quarter, the game's all tied up and our rotations are all used up, meanwhile there's a stoppage in our forward 50 and Neale & Fyfe are stuck on the bench.

This rule is balls.

 

[Big Animal]

If there has to be a cap this seems sensible to me - 120 won't change things dramatically and now everyone knows what the limit is

agree . Read an article on this by Frawley or someone yesterday (sorry, can't remember) who mentioned that in the last few weeks, the av. rotations was between 130 and 140, and since the 120 cap won't take into account changes between quarters, teams will still get about 130 or so rotations anyway. i.e. it will be business as usual (at least currently)