Carlton in the Media (articles, podcasts etc) - Part 3

[Arr0w]

Yeah I reckon his best bet is as an inside mid, with the flexibility to go forward.

I reckon he has it in him to make a 20 year career but sadley don't think he'll get there at Carlton

Jack will make it, at Carlton, he is just a slow burn like the players I mentioned, who took 4-6 years to find a level of consistency. While Watson and Kennedy were more natural mids, Jack is a smarter/better forward

 

[Arr0w]

They sure did.

I didn't think JSilvagni would make it on talent alone, but his effort is undeniable.
Even on the weekend, he simply gave his all on the ground and along with Kreuzer, was our best for the day.
Missed a goal he could have kicked and let out one very audible, '****' He was quite unhappy with himself in a reserves game.

Jack also looks taller to me than he was a year or two ago. Is this the case?
One other thing that was noticeable about him last Sunday, was that his lateral movement was better than it was a couple of years back.
I was somewhat surprised how quickly he could change direction.

It is not uncommon for boys to still keep growing, even till the age of 22. Many players that continue to grow, also struggle with early continuity. Harry grew, as did Cripps, it does take time

 

[Iamcarlton]

They sure did.

I didn't think JSilvagni would make it on talent alone, but his effort is undeniable.
Even on the weekend, he simply gave his all on the ground and along with Kreuzer, was our best for the day.
Missed a goal he could have kicked and let out one very audible, '****' He was quite unhappy with himself in a reserves game.

Jack also looks taller to me than he was a year or two ago. Is this the case?
One other thing that was noticeable about him last Sunday, was that his lateral movement was better than it was a couple of years back.
I was somewhat surprised how quickly he could change direction.

Agree on Jacks lateral movement/agility Harker mentioned this a few weeks ago on viewing some highlights of him from an earlier game .
Think it gets him right back in the frame to lock a senior spot in for himself imo .
Other than for imo the imbalance we have in the senior team he'd possibly have been in the senior team from rd 1 .

 

[HARKER]

It is not uncommon for boys to still keep growing, even till the age of 22. Many players that continue to grow, also struggle with early continuity. Harry grew, as did Cripps, it does take time

Just had a look at the website and Jack is now listed at 194 from the 191 he was listed at last year.
He looks to be that size and with the new clean hairstyle, I'd forget it was Jack I was looking at, at times.

I just don't see him as a mid, nor the need for him to become a mid, but he yet may.
Anyway, even though it's very early in the year, I'm already a lot more buoyant about him than I was only a few weeks ago and not just because the main team isn't performing so well.

 

[AB_Blue]

Jack plays with heart

You can’t teach that


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[SkyhorseTamer]

Wasnt that the way ratten coached- trouble was the defensive side of our game suffered. Pagan did his best to get results - at the expense of player development long term. Both were criticized strongly at the time. Malthouse was another matter.
Now what Bolton is doing is coaching for the long term. He might be confusing some of the younger players in the short term - overloading them /challenging them and short term results may be suffering- but should we demand that he give up? Just when the signs are that we are turning the corner? Last year IIRC it was suggested that Cuningham didnt get the game plan and was suffering because of it. This year- he is a different player. So is Weitering.
We should never forget that we have young players who are being challenged strongly with complex game plans that will ultimately bring success. I for one do not want another coach, until he has been proven to not have the right strategy. Everything bolts is saying and doing is according to plan and should be supported. It is natural for us to compare ourselves to other rebuild cliubs, but comparing us to GC and Brisbane is not correct because they did not strip out all their experienced players to the same extent that we have. Gws is the closest analogy.
We need to be patient.We have not been flogged in any of our games so far and we should have won against GC. Richmond, Port and swans are good teams and hard to beat. Had we been flogged by 2-3 teams already, then I would be talking differently.

No, by freedom I was referring to freedom of mind. Our players are either making panic decisions or not pulling the trigger as they're waiting too long and can't decide where to go. There's no freedom in decision making. It has been restricted and looks a bit unnatural.

Wasn't advocating to turn us into a ratten style team.

 

[Coops93]

If I had hair, I'd want hair like Doc's.

No-nonsense yet still stylish. It's magnificent!

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I hope he took out the patent on hairspray-reinforced granite...

It really is a haircut you could set your watch to. No Joe Namath about it.

 

[Macca43]

If I had hair, I'd want hair like Doc's.

No-nonsense yet still stylish. It's magnificent!

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I hope he took out the patent on hairspray-reinforced granite...

This was told to a group of 12 year basketballers as part Ron's Pyramid of Greatness

 

[ferrisb]

I've been rocking the buzz cut for the past 15 years, the first 5 by choice....

 

[Iamcarlton]

No, by freedom I was referring to freedom of mind. Our players are either making panic decisions or not pulling the trigger as they're waiting too long and can't decide where to go. There's no freedom in decision making. It has been restricted and looks a bit unnatural.

Wasn't advocating to turn us into a ratten style team.

Imo comes back to selection especially on the weekend no surprises we were bombing it long in hope .
We have Casboult who is not a natural lead up target Mcgovern is similar to Casboult likes to stay close to goal Mckay who also prefers to stay close to goal so he can use his height to advantage trouble was we couldn't get it to him 1 on 1 enough .
Charlie is the only natural lead up forward and he's sadly out of form .
So we had a shit show of too many talls not having a clue on how to play with each other and we ended up somehow having Gibbons as a marking target inside 50 .

 

[Opine]

I've been rocking the buzz cut for the past 15 years, the first 5 by choice....

The remaining 10 in armed forces?

 

[Gavstar]

Very interesting discussion on superfooty podcast about the role of Robert Walls

It seems BT and Slobbo are getting info from two different sources in CFC camp.

Slobbo very positive about Walls view on Bolton and pointed out the amount of learning Walls has had to do in terms of how a modern footy dept is run.

BT adamant that Walls mentoring role is a very small part of what he's doing that he's there to review the whole footy dept and provide feedback to the board(?). BT also pointed out that Walls is unlikely to hold back if he see's something's not working.

It seems he was brought in to satisfy desquiet with the powers that be in regards to the results rather than a mentor role. MLG was not enthused on the idea, Bolton was given two weeks to decide if this was ok (what would have happened if he said no?).

There view is that if results continue to go bad the changes will be driven by a change in the board, coercing Fitzpatrick into runnning was mentioned but not sure if that was just speculation and I don't think he's coercible from what I saw during his time as AFL commisioner.

 

[Blue__Balls]

Not buying into this "overcoaching" shit. Did Hawthorn win three in a row by playing "freely"? Hell no, they dominated the competition for years because they had an effective system that they drilled to the enth degree, always seemed to know exactly where their teammates would be, always had a loose option, and could play fast, slow and anything in between as the situation required.

It is possible to have a complex game plan and be able to execute it. There will be mistakes along the way, but I'd rather we set our sights on being great than on being competitive.

 

[Blue and Blue]

Very interesting discussion on superfooty podcast about the role of Robert Walls

It seems BT and Slobbo are getting info from two different sources in CFC camp.

Slobbo very positive about Walls view on Bolton and pointed out the amount of learning Walls has had to do in terms of how a modern footy dept is run.

BT adamant that Walls mentoring role is a very small part of what he's doing that he's there to review the whole footy dept and provide feedback to the board(?). BT also pointed out that Walls is unlikely to hold back if he see's something's not working.

It seems he was brought in to satisfy desquiet with the powers that be in regards to the results rather than a mentor role. MLG was not enthused on the idea, Bolton was given two weeks to decide if this was ok (what would have happened if he said no?).

There view is that if results continue to go bad the changes will be driven by a change in the board, coercing Fitzpatrick into runnning was mentioned but not sure if that was just speculation and I don't think he's coercible from what I saw during his time as AFL commisioner.

I call it all bull.
Made up rubbish by people with air time to fill up and axes to grind.

 

[SkyhorseTamer]

Not buying into this "overcoaching" shit. Did Hawthorn win three in a row by playing "freely"? Hell no, they dominated the competition for years because they had an effective system that they drilled to the enth degree, always seemed to know exactly where their teammates would be, always had a loose option, and could play fast, slow and anything in between as the situation required.

It is possible to have a complex game plan and be able to execute it. There will be mistakes along the way, but I'd rather we set our sights on being great than on being competitive.

You've missed the point. An effective system can still fall apart if it's over coached and players second guess themselves or don't have 'quiet minds'. On the 4 games of evidence we have so far it's the theory that best fits.

It's not a dire issue either. Can be turned around real fast.

 

[BIGGUS 64]

I've been rocking the buzz cut for the past 15 years, the first 5 by choice....

I hear that...
Once you get as bald as me, you just say "**** it", invest in a set of electric shears and cut it all back to ground zero every couple of months.
The shears I bought 10 years ago have paid for themselves many times over. Barbers must hate people like me.

 

[AndyWalkersGirl]

Just saw the clip on Matt Kennedy’ssocial media Account (insta). Walshy with the skills in Bunnings.
Looks like BamBam, Walsh and Setterfield aregood mates with a good sense of humour.

 

[thylacine60]

Jack plays with heart

You can’t teach that


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Bang!

 

[JoeyPBLUES]

Media is desperately looking for a hairline fracture to stick in a jack hammer..what a joke ..Ralph asking pagan because he had his son playing whilst he was coaching at Roos...on your Ralph you’re onto something here...keep searching you tool

Yeah as a footy player Pagan's son made a great real estate agent

 

[TBellicious]

Just saw the clip on Matt Kennedy’ssocial media Account (insta). Walshy with the skills in Bunnings.
Looks like BamBam, Walsh and Setterfield aregood mates with a good sense of humour.

All live together

 

[JoeyPBLUES]

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This was told to a group of 12 year basketballers as part Ron's Pyramid of Greatness

I say Bolt's pulls out the "Swanson Pyramid of Greatness"

 

[Gavstar]

I call it all bull.
Made up rubbish by people with air time to fill up and axes to grind.

Really think Robbo and BT have the imagination to make things up?

 

[JoeyPBLUES]

More good news guys

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/af...r/news-story/c1762d82d0342eb2a8fd6012c038269c

 

[Aphrodite]

More good news guys

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/af...r/news-story/c1762d82d0342eb2a8fd6012c038269c

https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/sam-walsh-signs-on-until-2022.1216146/

 

[Tushay]

Jack will make it, at Carlton, he is just a slow burn like the players I mentioned, who took 4-6 years to find a level of consistency. While Watson and Kennedy were more natural mids, Jack is a smarter/better forward

Leigh Matthews late last year said of Jack, that by age 25 he'll be a very good contributor. Just needs time. I'll back that assessment over some on BF.