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tonight sandy could have almost started his very own stats column titiled
"OWN TAPS ROVED"
 
Sandilands got his arms wacked alot tonight. Thought that was illegal but who knows nowadays.
 
In an even world we should win 50% of clearances. With Sandilands that should improve unless he uis deliberately hitting it to opposition, which obviously he is not.

Very poor midfield coaching for years in my opinion, and the highest priority for Harvey to fix.
 

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sandy was good ,but where was his support?
reading other threads i see a lot of people seem to think dessie played well,yeah for sure he got a bit of the ball but how do we say a bloke who kicked two out of bounds on the full from a shot at goals played well? we needed goals and what do we get ? rubbish,
if this is the sort of mediocrity we expect then we will always make up the numbers in the bottom eight
 
Dunno Westy, while I deplored Dessies poor kicking on goal, at other times he was looking really dangerous finding space and running the lines. There were plenty of other passengers to point the finger.
 
point taken dessie was good but you have to finish off if you want to earn your stripes,
first rate players dont regularly shank easy kicks,they finish off .the trouble at freo is that out front liners make these simple disposal errors over and over again and go home and tell themselves that they played okay,
things must change
 
Embers said:
Sandilands got his arms wacked alot tonight. Thought that was illegal but who knows nowadays.
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Maybe, but I don't know how that excuses consistently tapping the ball to the advantage of the opposition. It was as bad today as i've ever seen it. And FFS, would someone tell him to occasionally bash the ball forward 30 or 40 metres? It's a better bet than just tapping it to nobody at your feet.
 
Sandilands was much better this week. Last week I thought he looked terrible. Maybe he has trouble travelling, being that big and fitting in an airline seat can't be an easy fit.
 
westy1 said:
sandy was good ,but where was his support?
reading other threads i see a lot of people seem to think dessie played well,yeah for sure he got a bit of the ball but how do we say a bloke who kicked two out of bounds on the full from a shot at goals played well? we needed goals and what do we get ? rubbish,
if this is the sort of mediocrity we expect then we will always make up the numbers in the bottom eight
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So you want him to rack up stats, clear the ball, defend, and be a goal kicker, otherwise he is mediocre?

He had one shot on goal that was a shocker. The other was a kick in hope. The reality is he was probably our best on ground, and one of our most dangerous players. Again.
 
Embers said:
Sandilands got his arms wacked alot tonight. Thought that was illegal but who knows nowadays.
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As much as I find this really hard to do, I'm going to agree with Embers :o

The opposition ruckman in most teams is prepared to concede that he's not going to win too many taps against Sandilands. The tactic then moves onto how to either get the midifield to shark his taps, or how the ruckman can interfere with him as legally as possible (which seems to be easy enough as Embers has pointed out). Sandi is not only having to work on directing the tap to a Freo player (who more often than not then just coughs it straight up to the opposition) he's also got 95-100kg of opposition ruckman who's sole focus is destabilising him.
 
ithe point is that where we are losing the game is at the clearances,surely there is some work we can do on our structure at the stoppages to remedy this?
 
Ok, i'm going to pose a question, particularly to any ruckman out there (i'm 170cm so I would know such things!!!).

Should Sandi be trying to position tap to the midfielders, or should they be trying to read his taps better?

We really have a problem here that needs addressing.
 

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Rob said:
Maybe, but I don't know how that excuses consistently tapping the ball to the advantage of the opposition. It was as bad today as i've ever seen it. And FFS, would someone tell him to occasionally bash the ball forward 30 or 40 metres? It's a better bet than just tapping it to nobody at your feet.
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As I say to my mate. Throw up a ball. Hit the ball into the chair. At the same time im gonna whack your hand. Half the time the ball ends up behind him. If your arm is slapped you have no control at all over the ball. Freo players obviously train with Sandilands rucking the ball without his arms being slapped. They go to where the ball normally goes in training. During gameday the ball doesnt go there cos he gets his arms chopped. He should either get free kicks. Or do what a Cox does and just jump as high as you can. :thumbsu: and make sure the other player cant get his arm up to slap yours away.

A bit of rethinking has to be done in regards to how you train with your midfield
 
I thought Sandi played better tonight and still has room for improvement, but the problem is with the "pretty boy" midfielders, they are not one touch players. With a player like Mitchell, one grab and then disposal, our players had 2 or 3 fumbles each time trying to grab the ball.

I'll say it again, don't blame Sandi.
 
I seemed to noticed that many of the times that the hawks got the ball out of the centre or away from a ball up, we accutally had first hands on the pill. We would either fumble and get worried out of it, or turn it over in the congestion. Sandi is doing all he can, our mids need to hold onto the freakin ball.
 
I thought Sandi was ok tonight. His around the ground work still needs to improve (he doesn't nearly present enough as a target when we are trying to move the ball out of the backline) but his rucking was good.

The one thing I did notice that I thought was strange was that as the ump bounces the ball he takes his eyes off the ball for split second and looks at the opposition ruckman. Presumably once he's satisfied with knowing the position of his opponent, he then looks at the ball again and goes for the tap.

Now I don't know if this is normal or not, but I thought he should just concentrate 100% on the ball and try to get it at the highest possible point.

It appears as though he is overly concerned with his opponent charging into him, and at times I reckon he was unfairly interfered with. It pissed me off to see it happening at every centre bounce, and then once when Sandi went in early he got pinged for a shepherd. Terrible umpiring.

The way I see it, he's big enough and strong enough and should just charge his way at the ball in a show no mercy/take no prisoners approach.
 
If hes winning the taps which he always seem to, it will generally be going in the direction he wants it to.

So our midfielders are the ones not doing there job or theres not enough talk an there on completely opposite pages.

I saw a bunch of times the taps would go to about 2 hawks with no freo players near them they just ran away with an easy clearance.

Then even when gilmore was in the ruck he would win the tap but yet again it would go towards open hawks players but luckily gilmore was quick to react an was able to lay a tackle.

If gilmore is rucking an he taps it not straight at feet how can he be the first docker to get to where the ball went??
 

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What can be done???

Seriously - this issue just never seems to improve..

We need to do something with our midfield in regards to winning clearances.....
 
What can be done?

Get some bloody one-grab players in the middle, not blokes who need 2 or 3 grabs / fumbles before they take possession, by which time they no longer have possession... :mad:
 
Nodgey said:
I thought Sandi was ok tonight. His around the ground work still needs to improve (he doesn't nearly present enough as a target when we are trying to move the ball out of the backline) but his rucking was good.

The one thing I did notice that I thought was strange was that as the ump bounces the ball he takes his eyes off the ball for split second and looks at the opposition ruckman. Presumably once he's satisfied with knowing the position of his opponent, he then looks at the ball again and goes for the tap.

Now I don't know if this is normal or not, but I thought he should just concentrate 100% on the ball and try to get it at the highest possible point.

It appears as though he is overly concerned with his opponent charging into him, and at times I reckon he was unfairly interfered with. It pissed me off to see it happening at every centre bounce, and then once when Sandi went in early he got pinged for a shepherd. Terrible umpiring.

The way I see it, he's big enough and strong enough and should just charge his way at the ball in a show no mercy/take no prisoners approach.
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Agreed Nodgey. I'd even be willing to sacrifice him for a week or two if it meant the ruckmen from the other 15 teams thought twice about messing with him.
 
Well I've come to the realisation that we have the worst midfield in the comp. No exageration, it's pathetic. Blood the kids, get rid of the deadwood and lets hope 2009 sees Haselbey side by side with Palmer, Carr, Ibbotson and O'Brien.
Gone are any aspirations for 2008. That midfield just aint up to AFL standard period. Don't think this is too negative, it's whats going on.:mad:
 
Would love to see Foster and Obrien crack a game before the half way mark (of the season). That would be ideal.
 

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