Channel ten

[tazzietiger]

As a couple of us have been discussing in another thread channel ten's latest shows have mostly flopped with Everybody dance now already gone to the chopping board. So it comes as no surprise someone has resigned over the mess.

CHANNEL 10's Chief Programming Officer has resigned as the network remains crippled by dismal ratings and expensive failures.
In just a week, Ten has lost programming chief David Mott, cut talent show Everybody Dance Now and announced MasterChef is moving to Melbourne in an effort to revive a tired format.
Ten has been crushed by a series of ratings disasters for locally made shows like Being Lara Bingle, The Shire and Don't Tell the Bride.
But the biggest blow came this week when it axed talent show Dance after just two weeks and new show I Will Survive failed to capture a significant audience.
Programming chief David Mott acknowledged that poor ratings had soured things of late but he insisted risk taking is a necessary part of making quality programs.
"I am proud of the bold programming decisions we have made at Ten over that time, because without risk there is less chance of success," he said.
"In a job where you live and die by the numbers, perhaps I’ve been luckier than most. It’s been a great ride, and I’ve loved every second of it," Mr Mott said.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...vid-mott-resigns/story-e6freuy9-1226457241646

 

[TheGhostOfJohnBelushi]

Dance shows have been done to death but to be fair, there seems to be an audience for them.

But those other shows... I'll never understand why they even contemplated making them, bogan culture or not.

 

[crazyman27]

This will be a growing trend over the next few years. TV is dying as people aren't watching it anymore they're just jumping on the computer.

 

[Glebehawk]

Lots of cooks at Ten at the moment, not sure how much Mott had to do with the recent failures. Go back ten years ago and he did do some brave and clever counter programming.

Big Brother
Idol
Masterchef
first to take movies away from Sunday nights.

For a TV network that always spent less than Nine & Seven, he did a pretty amazing job.

 

[Face_Plain]

I don't think I've seen 5 minutes of any of those shows, but you could tell from the promos that they were all horrible.

 

[tazzietiger]

I Will Survive must be on its last life line after last nights dismal ratings.

Ten's musical theatre talent show I Will Survive sank to 364,000 viewers nationally, an unsustainable figure given the cost of the show and the expectations of the advertisers who have signed on to back it.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/tv-and-radio/sbs-goes-back-to-a-ratings-hit-20120829-24zhd.html#ixzz24tb14cua

 

[Slax]

I Will Survive must be on its last life line after last nights dismal ratings.

The might move it to another night to see if they can get through it. Pretty sure they've finished filming so there are no new costs.

The biggest problem for Ten is that they misjudged the reality tv market, people who have no interest in the subject won't watch it just because it is a reality program. When you look at their recent attempts you could see the warning signs a mile off

Lara Bingle was probably the exception. Whilst I might not have any interest in her, I could see why the would give this one a shot.

The Shire - was always going to be a poor man's Jersey Shore, with the same limited audience appeal. Also very Sydney centric (but that goes for just about everything Ten does) in that most people that don't live in Sydney have very little idea of what Sutherland Shire is like.

Everybody Dance Now - Did they even look at what happened with the ratings of So You Think You Can Dance? What is even worse is you'd think that an exec would watch it before they aired it. I watched 5 minutes and was surprised it didn't get axed sooner.

I Will Survive - whilst I will admit that I know one of the guys on it so I don't want it axed for his sake, if I wanted to watch blokes singing in drag in the outback I would watch the original movie. Really how many people are interested in watching a bunch of guys singing show tunes?

Don't Tell the Bride - another concept idea that somehow did not end up finding its natural place in the bin before being filmed. Had cringe factor written all over it when I first saw a promo for it and have heard anything that would make me want to watch it.

The fact that Ten nearly got beaten on the night by SBS I think says where they are at now.

 

[Glebehawk]

I don't think I've seen 5 minutes of any of those shows, but you could tell from the promos that they were all horrible.

I wouldn't call any of them quality tv, but at the time each was a huge rating success. Programmed by Ten when nobody else would take the risk.

 

[Face_Plain]

I wouldn't call any of them quality tv, but at the time each was a huge rating success. Programmed by Ten when nobody else would take the risk.

I was referring to the shows mentioned in the OP. Shire, I Will Survive etc. Not your post.

 

[Cap]

I don't agree that TV is dead - we just seem to getting shit quality TV

I watch re-runs of Family Guy and American Dad over pretty much anything else as most of it is utter shit. Ch.10 being the worst offender.

 

[Glebehawk]

I was referring to the shows mentioned in the OP. Shire, I Will Survive etc. Not your post.

got ya, my bad.

 

[OrdinaryJoel]

I don't agree that TV is dead - we just seem to getting shit quality TV

I watch re-runs of Family Guy and American Dad over pretty much anything else as most of it is utter shit. Ch.10 being the worst offender.

Australian Tele needs something bold and viewable. Or even just buy the rights to show awesome US shows that don't really seem to get good viewing over here!

 

[THRILLHO]

This will be a growing trend over the next few years. TV is dying as people aren't watching it anymore they're just jumping on the computer.

I think I read somewhere that actual TV viewing hours are going up year-on-year. I'll have a search and see if I can find it. I think you'll find that drama (which can easily be recorded, and is often preferable to watch multiple episodes in one sitting) is on the decline on non-subscription TV, but "event TV" (The Voice, basically any reality contestant show) and live sports are well up. The whole "second screen" thing (doing something on the computer/mobile/tablet while watching is probably helping TV as they integrate FB/Twitter and stops people changing the channel during ad-breaks.

I wrote this in The Shire thread, didn't realise this was here, so may as well just c&p it

You're right. Channel 10 should change their demographics. Today's youth don't really watch much TV. Most of their source of entertainment is on the internet.

They did change their demographics. That's why they're in a hole now.

They used to aim at the 16-39 market, skewing younger in the morning, which is why there was The Simpsons, Futurama, Big Brother, Cheese TV, The OC. Lachlan Murdoch moved in and decided to chase bigger overall ratings and skewed programming to 25-55 (7 and 9's territory), so they bumped The Simpsons, Neighbours, and Futurama to 11, dumped Cheese TV, brought in Breakfast (literally no-one watches this - 30 000 is test pattern type ratings), 5PM news, 6pm with George Negus (then changed to 6:30pm, then axed), ran The 7pm Project from 6:30, then changed it to an hour running from 6pm.

They're absolutely in a hole. 10 used to be profitable because even though an episode of The Simpsons might have only rated 500 000 - 600 000 it was mostly viewers in their target demographic so they could attract advertisers wishing to advertise directly to this market.

I used to watch Modern Family and TAYG on 10 back in 2009 when I didn't have great internet or Foxtel. But because those shows were successful, they'd flip them between Tuesday night, Wednesday night, and then Sunday night, and then sometimes on two nights, one new and one repeated. I could never remember what time they were on so eventually I just gave up. If 10 were serious, they'd air Homeland (apparently a great drama that draws ~1m for Ten) the next day after it airs in the US, when the second season starts in September. However, they'll continue to treat viewers with contempt and hold it over until they're ready to show it. Meanwhile, 200 000 (minimum) will just search it out on Channel Bittorrent.

FWIW, I Will Survive is down to 300 000 now. I don't think they'll axe it simply because they've already axed one expensive show and they can't replace it with repeats of Modern Family simply because they need to run 55% Australian content between 6-12. They'll just have to eat that shit sandwich for the next two months much like they did when viewers decided they didn't like watching people be judged on their ability to drive a nail into a post on The Renovators.[/quote]

 

[PAdman]

believe it or not, abc has overtaken channel 10 in the ratings this year

channel 10 is also pretty much on the verge of going bankrupt from what i've been told

ratings-wise it goes channel 7 > channel 9 > abc > channel 10 > sbs. channel 7 and 9 are pretty neck and neck but channel 7 slightly ahead

channel 10 have also sacked their head of publicity today: http://www.tvtonight.com.au/2012/08/ten-sacks-head-of-publicity.html

channel 10 is pretty much done, flop after flop. they were doing so good a few years ago too bringing in record profits for the company (back when they used to fasttrack us tv shows).

 

[THRILLHO]

Channel 9 are also absolutely laden with debt. About $3bn.

 

[RustyHawk]

channel 10 have also sacked their head of publicity today: http://www.tvtonight.com.au/2012/08/ten-sacks-head-of-publicity.html

That was always going to happen. C10 Publicity made a major faux pas recently. The fact the head of the department has gone shows how big a bungle it was.

As regards the 10 Network, it seems to have completely lost the plot. Changing Channel One from being a dedicated Sports channel to light entertainment was just wrong.

Spending 20M+ on a dance show when could have spent $6M x 4 on quality drama productions like "Bikies War" which gives them 32 hours quality tv every year to replay plus DVD sales. Madness and stupidity.

 

[Schulzenfest]

"I am proud of the bold programming decisions we have made at Ten over that time, because without risk there is less chance of success," he said.

wat? Bold programming decisions? Apart from Don't Tell The Bride, those are all just shows that already existed but with different names.

 

[JUBJUB]

"I am proud of the bold programming decisions we have made at Ten over that time, because without risk there is less chance of success," he said.

wat? Bold programming decisions? Apart from Don't Tell The Bride, those are all just shows that already existed but with different names.

and Don't Tell The Bride is just an Aussie version of a Pommie show

 

[watts4ever]

if we had better internet, like a thousand times better , then ten would be finished.

 

[Warsaw]

Underground hopefully is quality. Perhaps they should just stick to making these types of miniseries, seem to be this kind of niche that the networks do well in.

 

[OrdinaryJoel]

if we had better internet, like a thousand times better , then ten would be finished.

Soooo true!!!

 

[stewie griffen]

Australian Tele needs something bold and viewable. Or even just buy the rights to show awesome US shows that don't really seem to get good viewing over here!

Sunny?

 

[Donners]

if we had better internet, like a thousand times better , then ten would be finished.

Is there any station for which that wouldn't be the case?

 

[OrdinaryJoel]

Sunny?

Most definitely!

 

[Connar]

Seven holds the TV rights to both the Melbourne Cup Carnival & V8 Supercars. Both TV Rights expires at the end of 2012.

I would like to see Ten win the TV rights back to both events. Because they have not covered both those events since 2001 & 2006 respectively.