Vic Child thrown from Westgate Bridge

[BomberGal]

sometimes, because we just don't understand someones actions, we seem to have to find a label for it e.g...mentally ill, when in fact all it is, is straight out bad temperedness, driven by revenge and vindictiveness...

If this guy genuinely loved his daughter/kids (as has been reported by friends)...he could not do that to them...the love inside him wouldn't let him...

Hate/revenge towards his wife seems to have overridden any decent emotion he had.....

So yes, this guy was evil through and through IMO.........not sick

Sometimes, when we don't understand the mentally ill, or are afraid of it, we feel the need to label it 'evil'.

 

[Strike Swiftly]

sometimes, because we just don't understand someones actions, we seem to have to find a label for it e.g...mentally ill, when in fact all it is, is straight out bad temperedness, driven by revenge and vindictiveness...

If this guy genuinely loved his daughter/kids (as has been reported by friends)...he could not do that to them...the love inside him wouldn't let him...

Hate/revenge towards his wife seems to have overridden any decent emotion he had.....

So yes, this guy was evil through and through IMO.........not sick

i take it you have had very little interaction with mentally ill people.

 

[MacMum]

i take it you have had very little interaction with mentally ill people.

As a matter of fact, I have qualifications in the disability field, and have worked with quite a few mentally ill over the years.....I have also had very close dealings with two members of my ex in-laws who had depression problems, one is now deceased...does that give me a bit of insight into some of these problems??....Yes it does....I stand by my opinion, you obviously disagree.....I really don't care what you think, but you are certainly entitled to disagree...

One thing is for sure, there are definately evil people among us....Ivan Milat? is he mentally ill or just evil??

 

[J-Train]

As a matter of fact, I have qualifications in the disability field, and have worked with quite a few mentally ill over the years.....I have also had very close dealings with two members of my ex in-laws who had depression problems, one is now deceased...does that give me a bit of insight into some of these problems??....Yes it does....I stand by my opinion, you obviously disagree.....I really don't care what you think, but you are certainly entitled to disagree...

One thing is for sure, there are definately evil people among us....Ivan Milat? is he mentally ill or just evil??

You go Ssshhh now.

 

[Strike Swiftly]

ivan milat clearly has psych issues. he cut his finger off and attempted to send it the the court with an accompaning letter warning court staff of the hazardous content. he is not evil, just a nutter.

 

[magic_johnson!]

ivan milat clearly has psych issues. he cut his finger off and attempted to send it the the court with an accompaning letter warning court staff of the hazardous content. he is not evil, just a nutter.

did he love that finger?

 

[BomberGal]

As a matter of fact, I have qualifications in the disability field, and have worked with quite a few mentally ill over the years.....I have also had very close dealings with two members of my ex in-laws who had depression problems, one is now deceased...does that give me a bit of insight into some of these problems??....Yes it does....I stand by my opinion, you obviously disagree.....I really don't care what you think, but you are certainly entitled to disagree...

One thing is for sure, there are definately evil people among us....Ivan Milat? is he mentally ill or just evil??

Um, anyone who thinks Ivan Milat is not mentally ill might have some issues of their own.

You know, I've got a friend with 'qualifications in the disability field', and she'll be the first to tell you she doesn't have qualifications to understand mentally ill people, or diagnose it (or not).

I can assure you my experience with mental illness is far more personal and I stand by my comment about this man not being well.

 

[Herne Hill Hammer]

Was Robert Farquarson mentally ill when he drove his three sons to their deaths in the dam near Winchlesea? Or was he an evil prick, who just hated his ex more than he loved his kids?

 

[krisholio14]

Was Robert Farquarson mentally ill when he drove his three sons to their deaths in the dam near Winchlesea? Or was he an evil prick, who just hated his ex more than he loved his kids?

Indeed HHH.

When did being a vindictive arseh*le become a mental illness?

 

[tess]

Indeed HHH.

When did being a vindictive arseh*le become a mental illness?

When the assholes vindictive actions become inexplicable. When they get to that point when 99.9% of would walk away from or call someone but they don't or can't.

I can't understand it myself and I wont not can't forgive them, but I can see how it happens.

 

[krisholio14]

When the assholes vindictive actions become inexplicable. When they get to that point when 99.9% of would walk away from or call someone but they don't or can't.

I can't understand it myself and I wont not can't forgive them, but I can see how it happens.

They are only inexplicable because neither you nor I (who suffers from multiple mental illnesses) can fathom how a father could willingly do such a cruel, heartless act to his own beautiful little girl. Just because we don't have a full comprehension of the whys and wherefores does not make him mentally ill.

Is a bloke who spear guns his little girl through the head, cuts her up and throws her down the tip automatically mentally ill just because we cannot comprehend why he would perform such an evil act? Even moreso when he goes on TV and tries to cover his own tracks?

Theres just too many people who cry, that person is 'mentally ill' any time someone does something of this nature, where we cannot get a grip on how it can happen, and one that is going to result in dire consequences for the individual in question.

As I said earlier, I have multiple mental illnesses, and I can tell you now, if I ever under any circumstances did that to any child, let alone my own, I would expect to be prosecuted to the full extent of the law, whether it happened as a result of me being mentally ill or not.

Besides, being mentally ill does not always automatically rob you of your freedom to choose between right or wrong, or your ability to discern between the two.

 

[Strike Swiftly]

i think there is a big difference between farquson and freeman. Firstly, then is evidence that shows he concocted this idea a fair period prior to the event. He worked through the details before coming up with a suitable plan and location. He chose a location in the middle of nowhere, where it would be difficult for anyone to come to his aid or dispute his story. He did this all to get back at his ex, who there was a rather unsavoury history with. Once completed, he lied to cover his tracks and was eventually brought undone. he was cleared by a forensic medical officer for interview at the time, showing his mental wellbeing was fine. IMO he is bad, not mad.

With Freeman however, there is no evidence at this point in time that suggests this was something he planned in advance. It appears to be a spur of the moment thing. He chose a location covered by cameras, during peak hour traffic where hundreds would be witness. He was not concerned about getting caught, he probably hadnt even considered it. He has then been caught nearby. after arrest, the forensic medical officer has stated he was unfit for interview, being in a deep state of psychosis. IMO, he is mad (or was at the time of the incident) not bad.

Just my opinion anyway

 

[Herne Hill Hammer]

i think there is a big difference between farquson and freeman. Firstly, then is evidence that shows he concocted this idea a fair period prior to the event. He worked through the details before coming up with a suitable plan and location. He chose a location in the middle of nowhere, where it would be difficult for anyone to come to his aid or dispute his story. He did this all to get back at his ex, who there was a rather unsavoury history with. Once completed, he lied to cover his tracks and was eventually brought undone. he was cleared by a forensic medical officer for interview at the time, showing his mental wellbeing was fine. IMO he is bad, not mad.

With Freeman however, there is no evidence at this point in time that suggests this was something he planned in advance. It appears to be a spur of the moment thing. He chose a location covered by cameras, during peak hour traffic where hundreds would be witness. He was not concerned about getting caught, he probably hadnt even considered it. He has then been caught nearby. after arrest, the forensic medical officer has stated he was unfit for interview, being in a deep state of psychosis. IMO, he is mad (or was at the time of the incident) not bad.

Just my opinion anyway

Hmmm, Farquarson picked an isolated spot, no witnessess, no help close by. Still didn't work, they got him, tried him, convicted him and locked him up.
Freeman. Damn it didn't work for Farquarson, perhaps if I do it in broad daylight with witnessess during peak hour with the cameras on me people will surely think I must be mentally ill. I'll go to the courts and have a sook, make it more convincing.
Until it comes to trial we won't know. Maybe in this instance there will also be evidence emerge to show some premeditation. Maybe not.
Am I giving him too much credit? Perhaps. I hope it all comes out. Hopefully the older boy can unfortunately shed some light on things.

 

[tess]

Hopefully the older boy can unfortunately shed some light on things.

Hopefully NOT.

The two that are left will be living with this for the rest of their lives. They will have adults around them treating them as "special" that will only drive their feelings deeper inside themselves.

Is there anything worse than as a child, watching a sibling die?