Chuckers

[ramjet]

Originally posted by Becker
If you are going to make a stupid comment, at least qualify it.

the evidence is clear. he has been tested at four seperate institutions that i know of and quite possibly more i am unaware of. as with brett lee, shoaib akhtar and another player, i think from zimbabwe whose name escapes me at the moment, all tests are conducted using high tech scientific equipment and overseen by some of the best in their field.
footage from past performances where the player has been no-balled, are also analysed and in murali's case at the Perth testing (and probably all others but im yet to read about them) the conclusions were that the individual deliveries that were called as throws were simply not. a physical impossibility under the laws of the game and murali's anatomy.
so if you still believe he chucks, so be it. everyone's entitled to their opinion. portraying such a statement as conclusive however, thats another story.

 

[hourn]

what i dont get, is that looking at the Hong Kong Uni study (can someone find the URL for that??? i remember looking at it about 6 months ago but i can't find it now) is that it shows him throwing the ball, but still they reckon he's not

****in joke is all i'll say.

 

[Angus1]

Originally posted by P76
However, you raise a good point, and it goes back to the book that originally started this thread, where the author seems to think that chucking should have no more stigma attached to it than overstepping.

Well it doesn't really. If the umpire calls you for a throw he calls no ball and you bowl another one plus add on a run.
That is the same as over stepping.

 

[P76]

Originally posted by Angus1
Well it doesn't really. If the umpire calls you for a throw he calls no ball and you bowl another one plus add on a run.
That is the same as over stepping.

Yep I know that, but there is no stigma attached to overstepping as there is to throwing - i.e. no one thinks twice about it. What Whinpress seems to say in his book (and bear in mind that this is my interpretation from a brief glance) is that overstepping and throwing are comparable morally - i.e. they are either both nothing to get excited about, or, they are both cheating and the bowler should be branded as such.

Of course that view probably would only work for "occasional" throwers, due to fatigue or sending the faster one down....