News Coaching Thread: The Hardwick Era

[Happy Idiot]

Anecdotal, I know, but I've spoken to three die-hard Carlton supporters in the last couple of days and all three would be keen to see the back of Barker. So can someone tell me why the hell he's raging favourite at this point? The Carlton people seem to think he's a non-event, not out-and-out terrible, but hasn't achieved anything in his time.

I know Evans has liked him in the past, but it seems like there's a bit of 'meh' about him, and that is absolutely not what we need!

 

[OB11]

I'm not doubting you mate, but this is confusing as all **** given the praise Rocket continued to get in the media from players up until just a couple of weeks ago.

Let's see how they go on the weekend - talk is cheap and truth in the AFL media is even cheaper. If they play like a new team on the weekend, regardless of the result given the outs, then we will know how they truly feel.

 

[OB11]

the boys tore it up in training apparently after the news, "trained the house down" - look for some new cattle in the team and new players in different positions I am told - quotes such as "a veil has been lifted", "a fraud" and "laziest bloke to ever hold a head coach position" - some say he did more damage than bluey FWIW

Can tell you he lost the playing group a long time ago hence our lack of development and passion on field

Proof will be in the pudding this weekend

Solly must have been offered a good deal as he said no to GWS as senior assistant, he has not been given the nod though

Assistants don't know anymore whether they are staying or going

Are we saying that Solly is safe as a senior assistant then?

I saw the highlights on the track from yesterday afternoon - plenty of smiles and not many tears....

 

[vide0n]

the boys tore it up in training apparently after the news, "trained the house down" - look for some new cattle in the team and new players in different positions I am told - quotes such as "a veil has been lifted", "a fraud" and "laziest bloke to ever hold a head coach position" - some say he did more damage than bluey FWIW

Can tell you he lost the playing group a long time ago hence our lack of development and passion on field

Proof will be in the pudding this weekend

Solly must have been offered a good deal as he said no to GWS as senior assistant, he has not been given the nod though

Assistants don't know anymore whether they are staying or going

That's a bit of a shock, plenty came out to bat for him... Couldn't Hanley have said nothing? Didn't his relationship with Witts get him to the club?

I guess at the end of the day as long as the team improves who cares

 

[Big Red Machine]

Use your own brain Red
Don't just blindly believe the BS
Culture at club still stinks.
Players and Club are just better at covering it up. Couldn't cover up Harbrow drink driving incident thou. Who was he driving home ???



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I believe in what Rocket did.

The Harbrow thing was an isolated incident.

Nothing else needs to be said that won't get my posts deleted again.

 

[OB11]

That's a bit of a shock, plenty came out to bat for him... Couldn't Hanley have said nothing? Didn't his relationship with Witts get him to the club?

I guess at the end of the day as long as the team improves who cares

This sentence succinctly sums up how I feel about this review. If someone gets boned who didn't deserve to it doesn't matter if the person we get in can do the job better and better contribute to the club.

 

[SUNS]

Use your own brain Red
Don't just blindly believe the BS
Culture at club still stinks.
Players and Club are just better at covering it up. Couldn't cover up Harbrow drink driving incident thou. Who was he driving home ???



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He was driving his daughter to daycare at 7am the next morning. Widely reported

 

[exile]

I'm pretty sure it's going to be Amber Heard.

still quietly confident we'll land amber

 

[TheSunGod]

He was driving his daughter to daycare at 7am the next morning. Widely reported

Legend has it Harbs was driving Raoul Duke (aka Johnny Depp) over the border with a suitcase full of drugs. Harbs apparently admitted to the police...

"We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, and a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers... and also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of Budweiser, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls.
Not that we needed all that for the trip, but once you get locked into a serious drug collection, the tendency is to push it as far as you can."

Here's a selfie Duke took. That's clearly Harbs in the background.

 

[exile]

the boys tore it up in training apparently after the news, "trained the house down" - look for some new cattle in the team and new players in different positions I am told - quotes such as "a veil has been lifted", "a fraud" and "laziest bloke to ever hold a head coach position" - some say he did more damage than bluey FWIW

Can tell you he lost the playing group a long time ago hence our lack of development and passion on field

Proof will be in the pudding this weekend

Solly must have been offered a good deal as he said no to GWS as senior assistant, he has not been given the nod though

Assistants don't know anymore whether they are staying or going

very surprising. maybe i don't read too much about other sackings of coaches, but is it often stated that they lost the playing group? if not, our last two have. is that saying something about our players or our choice in coaches?

 

[Suns of Anarchy]

Why would anyone want to watch the dire, defensive, boring, non goal scoring football that this guy plays?

You make a valid point but Bolton has Carlton only scoring team 70 points a game over 2 seasons. Some of these young coaches are hardly flamboyant either.

 

[supernova_]

You make a valid point but Bolton has Carlton only scoring team 70 points a game over 2 seasons. Some of these young coaches are hardly flamboyant either.

There is a method though, learn the defensive side because more often that is the harder discipline to master than offensive side of things.

 

[GcSunsfan]

the boys tore it up in training apparently after the news, "trained the house down" - look for some new cattle in the team and new players in different positions I am told - quotes such as "a veil has been lifted", "a fraud" and "laziest bloke to ever hold a head coach position" - some say he did more damage than bluey FWIW

Can tell you he lost the playing group a long time ago hence our lack of development and passion on field

Proof will be in the pudding this weekend

Solly must have been offered a good deal as he said no to GWS as senior assistant, he has not been given the nod though

Assistants don't know anymore whether they are staying or going

Yeah don't believe a word of this

 

[Mini GF]

There is a method though, learn the defensive side because more often that is the harder discipline to master than offensive side of things.

Sir Alex Ferguson: "Attack wins you games, defence wins you titles."

 

[Suns of Anarchy]

There is a method though, learn the defensive side because more often that is the harder discipline to master than offensive side of things.

I don't disagree with this but if you've got 2 power forwards you also can't let them get frost bite and frustrated. There has to be a happy medium. I'd hate for us to go super defensive.

 

[Sunraysia]

I don't disagree with this but if you've got 2 power forwards you also can't let them get frost bite and frustrated. There has to be a happy medium. I'd hate for us to go super defensive.

How can we go super defensive - its not in this lists DNA . 18th in tackles, and we turnover with regularity.
We need a coach to enforce tackle count , accountability and injury management.
That is - if you miss games through injury you will be coming back via the NEAFL. None of our anointed players have done that this year - Contrast that to Giants who've made Coniglio, Haynes, Johnson , Deledio all do it.
Wonder what effect that would have on our injury count. Think too many of our players are happy to take a match payment (or several) for being injured during an AFL match - all the time knowing they'll likely be straight back in when they are happy to play.

 

[GcSunsfan]

How can we go super defensive - its not in this lists DNA . 18th in tackles, and we turnover with regularity.
We need a coach to enforce tackle count , accountability and injury management.
That is - if you miss games through injury you will be coming back via the NEAFL. None of our anointed players have done that this year - Contrast that to Giants who've made Coniglio, Haynes, Johnson , Deledio all do it.
Wonder what effect that would have on our injury count. Think too many of our players are happy to take a match payment (or several) for being injured during an AFL match - all the time knowing they'll likely be straight back in when they are happy to play.

The Giants can afford to bring their players back through the neafl because they have 5-10 ready made ferraris seating in there neafl team ready to go. All was have is 5 or so rusted out Fiats to bring in.
so thats why our players come straight back in

 

[TheSunGod]

still quietly confident we'll land amber

Not sure we can afford her... Johnny Depp $350m....Elon Musk Mega $$$$ Billionaire....

 

[SunsBhoy]

Not sure we can afford her... Johnny Depp $350m....Elon Musk Mega $$$$ Billionaire....

The coch has some dough , not sure he's ambers type though.


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[SunsBhoy]

You make a valid point but Bolton has Carlton only scoring team 70 points a game over 2 seasons. Some of these young coaches are hardly flamboyant either.

Not sure why the afl world has a hard on for Bolton , really good chance they win he spoon this year , which means they have gone backwards in his tenure .


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[Hawkboy62]

Any idea of the fate of your assistant coaches? I believe that all assistant coaches have to be notified by August1 whether or not their contact is being renewed. I think that most of your support staff would be moved on.

I wonder if AFL will assist with financing a godfather offer to get a premium coach, like that did with Roos to Melbourne? Probably.

Not sure which coaches are much good, often the key assistants are more important . Port when they lost Phil Walsh and Eagles when Pyke moved on for example. Evans has probably a good idea, but whether the cream want to move on is another thing. Unsuccessful head coaches usually don't get a second chance.

When Hawks were down and Clarko got the job supposed top coaches like Wallace and Eade weren't interested . Mainly money then. Also nobody wanted to coach Bulldogs when McCartney was sacked. Bevo got them a premiership in his second year.

Anyway, good luck, but don't expect instant success.

 

[Pres]

very surprising. maybe i don't read too much about other sackings of coaches, but is it often stated that they lost the playing group? if not, our last two have. is that saying something about our players or our choice in coaches?

Exactly right - if this is even remotely correct there needs to be wholesale removals from the playing list (again) over the coming seasons.

Imagine being so arrogant that you choose whether you go full tilt based on your personal view on whether the the coach is a "fraud"!

As I say if true all the Suns problems summed up here ladies and gentlemen.

 

[Sunraysia]

The Giants can afford to bring their players back through the neafl because they have 5-10 ready made ferraris seating in there neafl team ready to go. All was have is 5 or so rusted out Fiats to bring in.
so thats why our players come straight back in

But the rusty Fiats are beating the Ferraris .......

 

[supernova_]

How can we go super defensive - its not in this lists DNA . 18th in tackles, and we turnover with regularity.
We need a coach to enforce tackle count , accountability and injury management.
That is - if you miss games through injury you will be coming back via the NEAFL. None of our anointed players have done that this year - Contrast that to Giants who've made Coniglio, Haynes, Johnson , Deledio all do it.
Wonder what effect that would have on our injury count. Think too many of our players are happy to take a match payment (or several) for being injured during an AFL match - all the time knowing they'll likely be straight back in when they are happy to play.

probably why we have impact injuries so much, because we're softer at the contest. It's no secret in footy if you're harder at the footy and contest you usually win out and not the one that gets injured.

could be a direct correlation with our horrific injury run?

 

[Mini GF]

probably why we have impact injuries so much, because we're softer at the contest. It's no secret in footy if you're harder at the footy and contest you usually win out and not the one that gets injured.

could be a direct correlation with our horrific injury run?

Agree with this and also our blokes look physically smaller