Remove this Banner Ad

Cold Chisel

Cold Chisel is ...

  • Amongst the finest musical acts ever produced by this country

    Votes: 26 54.2%
  • A pretty good rock band at its best

    Votes: 3 6.3%
  • An average outfit with one or two good songs

    Votes: 14 29.2%
  • An Oz-Rock dinosaur that is best consigned to music's Ice Age

    Votes: 5 10.4%

  • Total voters
    48

🥰 Love BigFooty? Join now for free.

Danny Chook Fan Club

Premiership Player
Feb 8, 2001
3,819
8
Melbourne
Alright. It's time to stop this nonsense.

Before I launch into what promises to be a massive tirade on popular songs I dislike, it's time to defend Australia's greatest ever rock band.

It seems to me that it is very trendy to dismiss Cold Chisel as a band. This is just not on. For mine, they remain Australian music's best ever "rock" band.

Don Walker is a brilliant song writer. Ian Moss a fine guitarist. Many people dislike Jimmy Barnes, but I think his voice is a very distinctive instrument which gives Cold Chisel much of its power and force.

Sure, Khe Sanh has been flogged to death by commercial radio and people in pubs. But it's still a fantastic lyric, conveying more in three minutes than most of today's pop music does in three years. I find it a moving story of a man (and the group of people that man represents) being displaced from a place that he used to know. I think it speaks volumes for a lyric that has no true chorus (the "last plane out of Sydney" refrain only comes at the end, as a footnote rather than a repetitive "hook") to be such a popular sing-a-long tune.

But Khe Sanh wouldn't rank in my top ten favourite Chisel songs. Consider these classics:

My Turn To Cry
Four Walls
Standing On The Outside
Ita
Forever Now
Tomorrow
When The War Is Over
Star Hotel
Bow River
Flame Trees (absolutely magnificent, a true pop classic)
Merry Go Round

... and the list goes on.

And the recorded output isn't even the strength of the band. The strength of the band was its brilliant live performances, honed by playing up and down the country for more than a decade, through the most competitive and creative period in Australian music history. For Cold Chisel to come out of the period as arguably the number one band of the nation I think speaks volumes for the impact, importance and talent of the band.

No, Chisel are no longer fashionable. But to dismiss them entirely seems wrong to me.

But, it's your call - rate the Chisels.
 
I spent my heart to the sappers round Khe Sanh
And I sold my soul with my cigerattes
To the black market man
I've got the Vietnam cold turkey
From the ocean to the silver city
And it's only other vets would understand




Shall I continue???:D
 
Bored at work Mark? three emails and now a Chisel thread... ;)

One of Australia's greatest rock bands. Sure, Khe Sanh has been flogged more than a Saudi theif, but it's a classic song at it's core.

Flame Trees, Standing On The Outside, When The War Is Over...and they are still recognized by people as the definative Aussie rock band of the 80's.

JIIIIIIIIIIIIIMMYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!

The Hitman
 

Log in to remove this Banner Ad

STILL SINGING
.....About the long forgotten dark side guarantees
And there were no V-Day heroes, in 1973
And how we sailed into Sydney Harbour
I saw an old friend but I couldn't kiss her
She was blind and I was home to the lucky land
 
You're right Mark. I'm just SO SICK of hearing Khe Sanh.

Doesn't matter how good a song is, it can't bear up to the sort of flogging that song gets, and has had for about 15 years.

Like, no matter how good a book is, you can't read it over and over and over again every single ****in day.

Unless it's Every Game Ever Played of course:D
 
Well yeah, love Chisel!!!!!!! They certainly are one of the finest acts this country has produced. :D Khe Sanh............well yeah it HAS been flogged to death, but I still love it. :D lol



My fave kinda music though is the ones where they mention cars, especially the mighty GTO. :D
 

Cold Chisel are quite simply Australia's best rock band ever.

Barnes' voice is one thing - some people simply can't get past that - but in terms of quality songwriting and QUALITY SONGS, Don Walker and Steve Prestwich have no peer in this country.

Forever Now, Flame Trees, When the War is Over and Bow River are deadset classics.

And Khe Sahn is the closest thing this country has to a rock anthem.

Would Cold Chisel have been even better if Ian Moss was lead singer?
 
Originally posted by TigerTank


...

Would Cold Chisel have been even better if Ian Moss was lead singer?

Probably not. Moss has superb, honeyed vocal abilities, but did not come close to matching the on-stage charisma and raw energy of Jimmy Barnes. As Mark said above, the Chisel's greatest work was done when they were live and this is due predominantly to the work of Barnes. This was probably due to the fact that no-one really knew what Barnes would do next!
 
Originally posted by Danny Chook Fan Club


...

Don Walker is a brilliant song writer. Ian Moss a fine guitarist. Many people dislike Jimmy Barnes, but I think his voice is a very distinctive instrument which gives Cold Chisel much of its power and force.

...


There was tremendous synergy when this lot came together. Although they furthered their careers after the split, none where able to achieve the levels that Cold Chisel managed as a whole.

Barnesy was the most successful of this trio but IMHO suffered for being a little one-dimensional (from trying to fit into the MMM demographic?). Don Walker and Ian Moss both earnt modest success, but nothing even close to that of the Chisel's.

Oh, and when I reading (singing along with) the lyrics as posted by Hoggy, I literally had shivers running up my spine.
 
You forgot Chior Girl ... another quality song!

DCFC ... they are right up there with the greatest Aussie band and i would go as far to say that they are the best. So many great songs with lyrics that capture the Australianess in all of us.

There music will be still heard and loved for a long time to come. :)
 

Remove this Banner Ad

Yeah, Cold Chisel are great.

On a similar subject, can anyone else not understand a bloody word coming out of Jimmy Barnes's mouth recently?:confused::cool:
 
Originally posted by Nic
Yeah, Cold Chisel are great.

On a similar subject, can anyone else not understand a bloody word coming out of Jimmy Barnes's mouth recently?:confused::cool:

Something like..

"AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGHHHH OCH AYE THE NOO AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGHH"

That's all I could figure out :confused:
 
The Chisels are up there amongst the great Aussie bands, for sure.

I have seen Don Walker and Mossy at a small pub in Sydney and these boys can REALLY play and create fantastic music. Walker was the key to Chisel and is one of the most underrated writers in Oz music.

It makes me so sad to see the lack of quality music today. All music and bands aim for is short, but highly sucessful, music styles. It will bring in the bucks, but music doesn't touch people like it used to, and I think we are all worse off for that.
 
I hate Cold Chisel.
 

🥰 Love BigFooty? Join now for free.

yep me too

Has to be the biggest mstake Don Walker ever made in his career, teaming up with Barnes and Moss.

He could have been a huge star, such was his fantastic songwriting talent.

But instead he fell in with a drunken bore and a talentless hack.

Oh and for his trouble, he got beaten up by same drunken bore and talentless hack as well.

vastly over-rated band, vastly.

Totally failed to achieve success outside of Australia - that should tell you something about their relative merits I guess.

I do like "Star Hotel" however - it has a brooding and menacing feel and a really effective counterpoint between verse and chorus that lifs this song above thier usual stuff.

cheers
 
awesome, awesome aussie rock band

i only wish i was around when they were in their prime
there aren't a great deal of people my age who appreciate the chisels

not to mention midnight oil, ac/dc and the hunters and collectors who could also have claims to being the greatest aussie rock band
 
Originally posted by Bloodstained Angel
Totally failed to achieve success outside of Australia - that should tell you something about their relative merits I guess.
Unlike Savage Garden?

Unlike Dannii Mingoue?

Unlike Rolf Harris?

Unlike Jason Donovan?

Unlike Air Supply?

Are these *artists* meritorious?
 
Originally posted by Bloodstained Angel
Has to be the biggest mstake Don Walker ever made in his career, teaming up with Barnes and Moss.

He could have been a huge star, such was his fantastic songwriting talent.

But instead he fell in with a drunken bore and a talentless hack.

Ian Moss is one of the great guitarists Australia has produced. I can't agree with that he is a hack...sensational player.
 
Originally posted by Danny Chook Fan Club
Unlike Savage Garden?

Unlike Dannii Mingoue?

Unlike Rolf Harris?

Unlike Jason Donovan?

Unlike Air Supply?

Are these *artists* meritorious?

Hey DCFC...what about the Wiggles?:D
 
Originally posted by Danny Chook Fan Club
Unlike Savage Garden?

Unlike Dannii Mingoue?

Unlike Rolf Harris?

Unlike Jason Donovan?

Unlike Air Supply?

Are these *artists* meritorious?


Yeah!

What he said!!
 

Remove this Banner Ad

Cold Chisel


Write your reply...

Remove this Banner Ad

🥰 Love BigFooty? Join now for free.

Back
Top