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What do you guys need to complete the structure to win premierships?

I reckon a bit of Oakley Nicholls on the wing, with Leds in the cetre, Polo playing half back, Foley in the midfield, Blinga half forward, Browny half forward, Thursfield CHB and of course a bit of Richo at FF but what is missing?

Have a good think and get back to me :)
 
Hughes should be told "Either prepare to become our next CHF or prepare to be delisted", just to get his ass in to gear. Of course we wouldn't really go through with it, but the kid probably needs a kick in the ass.
 
tomthetiger said:
Hughes should be told "Either prepare to become our next CHF or prepare to be delisted", just to get his ass in to gear. Of course we wouldn't really go through with it, but the kid probably needs a kick in the ass.

And what makes you say this???
 

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mini_me316 said:
And what makes you say this???

:) SHOOT me down if you will, but any talk of "structure" and "needs" at Tigerland should begin and almost end at key defenders.
As much as I am a fan of Will Thursfield - his limited games in 2005 were all good and his effort on Riewoldt earlier ths season superb - but I just don't think the guy has the body, or bulk to regularly curb key forwards. Hey, I could be wrong, but the bigger, stronger blokes like Barry Hall would easily outmuscle him. And a tough ask to come back after a second serious leg injury! Schulz at CHB is an option, but like the look of him at FF and the key forward combination of Hughes CHF and Schulz FF in three years' time certainly appeals. So to borrow an old cliche, we may be "robbing Peter to pay Paul" idf we think of sending Schulz down back.
Elsewhere we are pretty sound right now and in good shape, but perhaps need for another mid-size or small forward capable of regularly contributing goals.
In Brown, Richardson, Raines, Bowden x 2, Tuck, Coughlan, Newman and Johnson, together with an exciting emerging crop of youngsters headed by Deledio, Polo, Meyer, Tambling, Howat, Foley, Hughes, Oakley Nicholls, Casserley, Limbach etc., we have the nucleus of a very good side for the next three to five years. But keye defenders is where we still lack and where we should be focusing our attentions.:)
 
mainboardboycotter said:
What do you guys need to complete the structure to win premierships?

I reckon a bit of Oakley Nicholls on the wing, with Leds in the cetre, Polo playing half back, Foley in the midfield, Blinga half forward, Browny half forward, Thursfield CHB and of course a bit of Richo at FF but what is missing?

Have a good think and get back to me :)

Leds??? Who's he?
 
need a gorilla fullback

we had the chance of getting jason roe but we got graham why I dont know, graham might work out well but roe is what we needed not another ruckman

also need to strengthen the midfield putting pressure on guys like hyde and tivendale who in any decent side would of got dropped mid year
 
PLSC said:
need a gorilla fullback

we had the chance of getting jason roe but we got graham why I dont know, graham might work out well but roe is what we needed not another ruckman

also need to strengthen the midfield putting pressure on guys like hyde and tivendale who in any decent side would of got dropped mid year
Hyde was playing awesome mid-year, we would have been stupid to drop him in that kind of form. I have noticed in the last two weeks his game is begining to lift again which is good news. Every player has a form slide. Its unavoidable.

Contrary to popular opinion I dont think that Hughes should be ear-marked as our CHF. In the seniors his goals all came from good crumbs and from what I have seen of him at Coburg (4 games) he doesnt present like a CHF. Alot of his marks are deep in the pocket and he lacks a bit of height as well.

Ofcourse on a first year player so its tough to judge but I would be thinking more of a Limbach type at CHF with Schulz at FF. Schulz is awesome =)
 
Goldust said:
:) SHOOT me down if you will, but any talk of "structure" and "needs" at Tigerland should begin and almost end at key defenders.
As much as I am a fan of Will Thursfield - his limited games in 2005 were all good and his effort on Riewoldt earlier ths season superb - but I just don't think the guy has the body, or bulk to regularly curb key forwards. Hey, I could be wrong, but the bigger, stronger blokes like Barry Hall would easily outmuscle him. And a tough ask to come back after a second serious leg injury!
Pretty close to the mark there Dusty Springfield .

Except i would not put labels on Thirsty just yet . An untapped talent who needs to be well and truelly wrapped in Cotton wool.

IMHO our number one recruiting/drafting policy should be to nab a ready made key backman .

I have banged on enough about this
 
IDGAF said:
Pretty close to the mark there Dusty Springfield .

Except i would not put labels on Thirsty just yet . An untapped talent who needs to be well and truelly wrapped in Cotton wool.

IMHO our number one recruiting/drafting policy should be to nab a ready made key backman .

I have banged on enough about this

Has everyone forgotten our lack of a future CHF? Once Richo retires there is nothing. Shulz is a CHF, Hughes I doubt will become a CHF, yet they are about the only options at the moment. Unless we find something soon, we're ****ed in 3-4 odd years. We'll be like West Coast/Adelaide now, but might not have half the midfield they do.
 
Kurtis G said:
Hyde was playing awesome mid-year, we would have been stupid to drop him in that kind of form. I have noticed in the last two weeks his game is begining to lift again which is good news. Every player has a form slide. Its unavoidable.
It seems to me that Hyde's good form coincides with when we play the bottom sides and his poor form coincides with when we play the top sides, or when we need him to take some more responsibility eg when Cogs went down injured. If he's out of contract he should be shopped around at season's end to see if there is any interest. One of the clubs he played well against may be tempted to pay over the odds for him.
 

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yeh and there all the games we got humilitated in

loves to get on the end of a few cheapies like in the geelong game but when we really need him like against sydney when we were crying out for run he goes missing
 
Lets say.. 2008ish?

P Bowden Thursfield Newman
Raines J Bowden JON
Tuck Coughlan Tambling
Meyer Hughes Pettifer
Schultz Richardson Brown
Simmonds Deledio Foley

Pattison Johnson Polo Hyde

Krakouer Hartigan White



Plenty of dash, skill and even some hight in the back 6; exacly what Plough is building towards the side to be. Strong midfeild: grunt + skill, rather potent forward line with a strong bench.

If everyone develops as hopes - look alright eh?
 
tomthetiger said:
Hughes should be told "Either prepare to become our next CHF or prepare to be delisted", just to get his ass in to gear. Of course we wouldn't really go through with it, but the kid probably needs a kick in the ass.

Why? What a silly comment.

Hughes is more a Tarrent, flankish type - and a pretty good one (prospect wise) at that.

It's not his fault we don't have a Roughead, Kennedy or Gumbleton to play that out and out CHF role.

Hopfully with Richo & Schultz we have a strong 3 prog forward line, with quailty smallers blokes also.
 
PLSC said:
need a gorilla fullback

we had the chance of getting jason roe but we got graham why I dont know, graham might work out well but roe is what we needed not another ruckman

also need to strengthen the midfield putting pressure on guys like hyde and tivendale who in any decent side would of got dropped mid year

I doubt we are going after that kind of key defender.

Joel Bowden will be the CHB, perhaps Patty Bowden will take over from Kellaway as the 3rd defender. Thusty FB. Then from JON (who is a very tall non-KPP) on a HBF and thats plenty of hight in the backline.

A Rutten or Glass would be nice.

Hyde is a very decent player.
 
Kurtis G said:
Contrary to popular opinion I dont think that Hughes should be ear-marked as our CHF. In the seniors his goals all came from good crumbs and from what I have seen of him at Coburg (4 games) he doesnt present like a CHF. Alot of his marks are deep in the pocket and he lacks a bit of height as well.

Ofcourse on a first year player so its tough to judge but I would be thinking more of a Limbach type at CHF with Schulz at FF. Schulz is awesome =)

Hughes has kicked three senior goals. You can hardly conclude he is more a crumer goal kicking type because of that.

At Coburg they are saying he is a CHF type - just more a leader than a big monster Hall/Richo type. He doesn't lack hight @ 193cm. Just needs some more beef - you'd hop that will come.

Limbach won't make it as an AFL CHF..

I hope with Schultz + Richo in the forward 50 Hughes will comepliment them as the leading Tarrent type flanker.

Richo needs to play for another 3 years at least :(
 

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Goldust said:
:) SHOOT me down if you will, but any talk of "structure" and "needs" at Tigerland should begin and almost end at key defenders.
As much as I am a fan of Will Thursfield - his limited games in 2005 were all good and his effort on Riewoldt earlier ths season superb - but I just don't think the guy has the body, or bulk to regularly curb key forwards. Hey, I could be wrong, but the bigger, stronger blokes like Barry Hall would easily outmuscle him. And a tough ask to come back after a second serious leg injury!

You need to remember that some of the best Defenders in the league dont have big bodies, you just have to look at Scarlett and Leo Barry, week after week they manage to stop there men so its not all about bulk.
 
Nightwolf_69 said:
Franklin at CHF.

Oh thats right... ;)

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
I wouldnt have him there even if he was in my side.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
He'd be LRO(Left Right Out).
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
 
Bentleigh said:
Hughes has kicked three senior goals. You can hardly conclude he is more a crumer goal kicking type because of that.

At Coburg they are saying he is a CHF type - just more a leader than a big monster Hall/Richo type. He doesn't lack hight @ 193cm. Just needs some more beef - you'd hop that will come.

Limbach won't make it as an AFL CHF..

I hope with Schultz + Richo in the forward 50 Hughes will comepliment them as the leading Tarrent type flanker.

Richo needs to play for another 3 years at least :(
Limbach isnt a CHF
 
Bentleigh said:
Why? What a silly comment.

Hughes is more a Tarrent, flankish type - and a pretty good one (prospect wise) at that.

It's not his fault we don't have a Roughead, Kennedy or Gumbleton to play that out and out CHF role.

Hopfully with Richo & Schultz we have a strong 3 prog forward line, with quailty smallers blokes also.

Idiot. I never said we should expect him to become a CHF, but the pressure has to be applied. If we say "Yeah-Nah Clevey you just take your time and one day you can become a sort of flanker Tarrent-esque type player and we'll play off the bench" we'll never get anything out of him. Put the pressure on and you never know what might happen.
 

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