im moving departments as of next week and the boss said something about putting me onto a contract, now as far as i know contracts are illegal in supermarket retail, we have an agreement that all bosses must abide by. Im thinking of asking him to put in writing that my job will be safe as in a few months im heading overseas, or just not accepting him putting me onto a contract, i have every right to do so, cant see why i cant keep working under the agreement i have now. I was wondering if anyone knows what type of contract he might be refering to or if you yourself have worked under a similar situation in retail or in a supermarket.
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Tertiary and Continuing contracts at coles?
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I think you might find its contracted hours. Many within the Woolworth's group of companies work to 'contract' or set & guaranteed hours per week but do hours outside that which is of benefit to you as that means you are not casual rather PT or FT employee with them.
Its most likely you set hours rather than any type of contract that binds you for a certain period of time. I would suggest that a contract in this case is of benefit.
If you choose to leave you employment for an extended period of time both you & the employer have the right to express your expectations but the law will ultimately decide what can or can't happen in that case I suspect.
He will not put any request of job security in writing however I assume that you will be able to return to employment on return from holiday.
Just my observations.
Its most likely you set hours rather than any type of contract that binds you for a certain period of time. I would suggest that a contract in this case is of benefit.
If you choose to leave you employment for an extended period of time both you & the employer have the right to express your expectations but the law will ultimately decide what can or can't happen in that case I suspect.
He will not put any request of job security in writing however I assume that you will be able to return to employment on return from holiday.
Just my observations.
Yeah as Crimson said its just a contract that guarantees you a certain amount of hours a week. Tbh its not worth it if they are giving you enough hours at the moment because your rate of pay drops a few dollars an hour
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I've had this "problem". The thing is, even though they are not supposed to drop your hours if you refuse to sign the "contract" (which is just a list of your hours each week as part-time instead of casual) they do and most likely will. The reason they do it is for your casual loading, so there is a set amount of hours for a particular job and they usually do not care who fills it as long as it is filled.
Depends on the business and staff, but I have worked in retail for 7 years and seen it many times. They will go to Employee 1, ask them if they want those hours, if they say no they will go to Employee 2 and so forth.
A contract of hours does not mean you can't quit or tell them you can't work those hours anymore, it's sole purpose (in the retail context purely) is locking you in as part-time (less pay per hour than casual) hours per week. I resumed studies and told my manager "mid contract" I could not work those hours anymore so they just moved me back to casual. i.e. they want you to work 5 hours a day over 4 days, you're contract is 20 hours. You get "Base" pay of 20 hours (not casual loading i.e. base might be $17 and casual is $20 per hour) and if you work "overtime" you get the casual loading.
Often it's worth going on a contract for more hours. i.e. I would rather 20 hours part-time, than 10 hours on casual. And it's guaranteed, so no fluctuations depending on who's on annual leave, public holidays (hello Easter) etc.
PS. I have never worked for Coles but Kmart who is a part of the same company. Also worked for Woolworths, Big W, Dick Smith. All have similar systems.
Depends on the business and staff, but I have worked in retail for 7 years and seen it many times. They will go to Employee 1, ask them if they want those hours, if they say no they will go to Employee 2 and so forth.
A contract of hours does not mean you can't quit or tell them you can't work those hours anymore, it's sole purpose (in the retail context purely) is locking you in as part-time (less pay per hour than casual) hours per week. I resumed studies and told my manager "mid contract" I could not work those hours anymore so they just moved me back to casual. i.e. they want you to work 5 hours a day over 4 days, you're contract is 20 hours. You get "Base" pay of 20 hours (not casual loading i.e. base might be $17 and casual is $20 per hour) and if you work "overtime" you get the casual loading.
Often it's worth going on a contract for more hours. i.e. I would rather 20 hours part-time, than 10 hours on casual. And it's guaranteed, so no fluctuations depending on who's on annual leave, public holidays (hello Easter) etc.
PS. I have never worked for Coles but Kmart who is a part of the same company. Also worked for Woolworths, Big W, Dick Smith. All have similar systems.
