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Conspiracy Theory Coronavirus #2: Lockdowns

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Thoughts on COVID-19? (Choose 2 options)

  • It's a naturally occurring virus

    Votes: 15 20.3%
  • It came from a Chinese laboratory

    Votes: 31 41.9%
  • It came from a US/other laboratory

    Votes: 5 6.8%
  • It's dangerous and harsh restrictions are necessary

    Votes: 19 25.7%
  • It's not dangerous enough to warrant harsh restrictions

    Votes: 22 29.7%
  • It's basically another flu, so restrictions are silly

    Votes: 14 18.9%

  • Total voters
    74

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Lots of relevance in this article to the behaviour of both governments and depressingly compliant Western populations in 2020.

The easiest war to wage and win is the one your enemy and even your own pawns don’t know about.
Politicians are pawns and they don’t know it.
 
I assume he won't be allowed to attend any concerts or sporting events, allowed to go out to restaurants until he does receive the vaccine surely.

But anyway, You'd believe they'd be keen to show the world their product is safe & effective, Yet even the CEO won't be receiving it.

https://www.businessinsider.com.au/...t-cut-line-covid-19-vaccine-2020-12?r=US&IR=T

Comical if it wasn’t so blatant.
Of course they will wait their turn, it’s for the GREATER GOOD!
 

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Unfortunately many people will not have a choice whether they want to be vaccinated if they want to work or travel. Australia in particular have made this very clear or function in society. So has Alan Joyce (a speaker at the GEF) stating Qantas and other airlines have got together and will ban anyone from flying if they haven't have a COVID vaccine and can prove it. This is morally and ethically wrong, but an indication on how global partners will act. If they really thought COVID caused such a serious risk when flying, they could ask passengers to take a test two days before and stop them flying if positive.

But it's not about the so called "risk" it's about global control for global goals recently published by GEF.

Of course I was aware that Johns Hopkins removed the report, but it was saved on the wayback machine where I posted it from. Instead of being fully suppressed from the public, people can read it and make their own minds up on an expert, statically correct comparison, or point out where it is incorrect.

The assistant program director of the Applied Economics master’s degree program at Johns Hopkins University analysed official CDC figures for deaths and causes of deaths in the USA over a number of years.

Briand concluded there had been no increase in deaths overall, no increase the percentage of deaths in older age groups. They “remained the same."

She found “the total decrease in deaths by other causes (with the top three being heart disease, respiratory diseases, influenza, and pneumonia), almost exactly equals the increase in deaths by COVID-19.”

She concluded that the COVID-19 death toll in the United States is misleading and that deaths from other diseases are being categorized as COVID-19 deaths.
Scott Morrison backed away from his “making the vaccine compulsory” stance, largely because of a potential breach of the human rights charter. And there is reasonable grounds to assume this challenge. As for QANTAS they are a private entity and view COVID19 as a commercial concern. Much in the same way a casino can deny entry to gambles who regularly beat the house or a night club can reject patrons of a specific profile, I have no issue with a private entity protecting its interests. The equation for the consumer is quite simple- risk versus reward. And this is a choice we all have.
 
Amazing how this was predicted by anyone with a brain 6 months ago. Lockdowns will cause more problems than they help


Yet they have done a magnificent job in promoting lockdowns. Maybe if that same effort went into actually helping rather than PR for the disasters your decisions cause... This year will also put many people off ever starting a business. Why take that risk?

I look forward to seeing the comments and tweets of people complaining about no money from the very same people who earlier supported the things that caused their situation.
 
Amazing how this was predicted by anyone with a brain 6 months ago. Lockdowns will cause more problems than they help


Yet they have done a magnificent job in promoting lockdowns. Maybe if that same effort went into actually helping rather than PR for the disasters your decisions cause... This year will also put many people off ever starting a business. Why take that risk?

I look forward to seeing the comments and tweets of people complaining about no money from the very same people who earlier supported the things that caused their situation.
With the level of uncertainty that this will bring, I’ll be selling my shares on Christmas Eve. Hard times are ahead.
 
Scott Morrison backed away from his “making the vaccine compulsory” stance, largely because of a potential breach of the human rights charter. And there is reasonable grounds to assume this challenge. As for QANTAS they are a private entity and view COVID19 as a commercial concern. Much in the same way a casino can deny entry to gambles who regularly beat the house or a night club can reject patrons of a specific profile, I have no issue with a private entity protecting its interests. The equation for the consumer is quite simple- risk versus reward. And this is a choice we all have.

So we should just let multinational corporations decide to mandate vaccines? Business doesn't get an exemption to violate peoples human rights.
If mandatory vaccines are a human rights violation, then refusing service to people who don't take it is also a human rights violation. I would go further and say that any government that has given pharma companies indemnity from liability has already committed a human rights violation.
 

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Amazing how this was predicted by anyone with a brain 6 months ago. Lockdowns will cause more problems than they help


Yet they have done a magnificent job in promoting lockdowns. Maybe if that same effort went into actually helping rather than PR for the disasters your decisions cause... This year will also put many people off ever starting a business. Why take that risk?

I look forward to seeing the comments and tweets of people complaining about no money from the very same people who earlier supported the things that caused their situation.
Get the China bots onto social media again. They seem to persuade any govt to do anything they want.
 
Scott Morrison backed away from his “making the vaccine compulsory” stance, largely because of a potential breach of the human rights charter. And there is reasonable grounds to assume this challenge. As for QANTAS they are a private entity and view COVID19 as a commercial concern. Much in the same way a casino can deny entry to gambles who regularly beat the house or a night club can reject patrons of a specific profile, I have no issue with a private entity protecting its interests. The equation for the consumer is quite simple- risk versus reward. And this is a choice we all have.
Scotty from marketing and Emperor McGowan haven't backed away from making the vaccine as "mandatory as possible", with no jab no school/pay/international travel/work all suggested. Interesting you say there is a possible avenue through the human rights charter as Australia have indemnified the vaccine makers and people who administer it, if there are adverse effects (AE).

The rushed emergency use authorisation in UK and US of Pfizer vaccine, although safe and effective medications are available, was with effectiveness in 9 subjects in the vaccinated group (and some creative statistics). Safety was reported for thousands more subjects and many AEs listed, including serious ones and 2 deaths. Of course there are no long term AE reported because this vaccine has only been in development and testing for a few months. A mRNA vaccine has never been successfully developed for humans before, because of serious AE and its ineffectiveness in comprehensive animal studies.

I have no issue with a private entity like a pub or casino refusing me entry if I was drunk and they could tell by asking me to walk a straight line or take a breath test. Similarly, I would have not problem (as I've stated) with Qantas as a private company who viewed COVID as a serious risk to other passengers, asking me to take COVID test before flying to prove negative and/or taking a temperature test before boarding.

This is not about a virus or protecting others, as thousands of experts around the world have pointed out speaking out against the COVID / Corona Hoax, with facts and evidence V fake predictions and propaganda.
 
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So we should just let multinational corporations decide to mandate vaccines? Business doesn't get an exemption to violate peoples human rights.
If mandatory vaccines are a human rights violation, then refusing service to people who don't take it is also a human rights violation. I would go further and say that any government that has given pharma companies indemnity from liability has already committed a human rights violation.
There is a subtle difference in the two arguments; one Is conditional, the other is not. It is also the reason why I cannot deny service to someone because of the colour of their- because the colour of their skin is not conditional and thus falls into the category of discrimination on the basis of race. You would do well to peruse John Stuart Mill’s On Liberty, where he discusses the notion of positive freedoms and negative freedoms.
 

I reported on this a few pages back and Dr Kory is highly respected in the ICU treatment of COVID with his earlier discovery of steroid use that was widely taken up around the world.

The Australian Dr Borody was one of the first in the world to report on the success of Ivermectin with Zn and an antibiotic in preventing and treatment of COVID.

Then the latest Argentine RCT study Dr Kory talks about, I also posted with over 800 subjects showing 0% in the treatment group got COVID, compared with 58% in the placebo group.
 
Scotty from marketing and Emperor McGowan haven't backed away from making the vaccine as "mandatory as possible", with no jab no school/pay/international travel/work all suggested. Interesting you say there is a possible avenue through the human rights charter as Australia have indemnified the vaccine makers and people who administer it, if there are adverse effects (AE).

The rushed emergency use authorisation in UK and US of Pfizer vaccine, although safe and effective medications are available, was with effectiveness in 9 subjects in the vaccinated group (and some creative numbers). Safety was reported for thousands more subjects and many AEs listed, including serious ones and 2 deaths. Of course there are no long term AE reported because this vaccine has only been in development and testing for a few months. A mRNA vaccine has never been successfully developed for humans before, because of serious AE and its ineffectiveness in comprehensive animal studies.

I have no issue with a private entity like a pub or casino refusing me entry if I was drunk and they could tell by asking me to walk a straight line or take a breath test. Similarly, I would have not problem (as I've stated) with Qantas as a private company who viewed COVID as a serious risk to other passengers, asking me to take COVID test before flying to prove negative and/or taking a temperature test before boarding.

This is not about a virus or protecting others, as thousands of experts around the world have pointed out speaking out against the COVID / Corona Hoax, with facts and evidence V fake predictions and propaganda.
you’ve missed the point entirely. This is not about science for QANTAS. This is about commercial interest. QANTAS are merely reflecting the position of the stakeholders they serve- which as an investor I would expect them to do. This is about QANTAS asking one simple question I.e. what do the majority of our customer base want us to with regard to travelling with a vaccine?
 
you’ve missed the point entirely. This is not about science for QANTAS. This is about commercial interest. QANTAS are merely reflecting the position of the stakeholders they serve- which as an investor I would expect them to do. This is about QANTAS asking one simple question I.e. what do the majority of our customer base want us to with regard to travelling with a vaccine?
I don't think I have missed the point, which is as a private entity Qantas have a responsibility to reduce the risk to their customers using their service. If they decide that COVID is a risk to their customers using their service, then having their customers prove they are negative for COVID just before flying, would be the most effective and proven way to prevent this risk.

It's a ridiculous argument which is ethically and morally wrong, to suggest a private company can force people to take an experimental vaccine before using their services. It is unproven in protecting a person getting COVID when challenged with COVID, or passing it on, and has unknown long term effects.

I doubt shareholders who have the facts and evidence would support taking a vaccine, especially if they discovered they could be liable for damages from AE, rather than taking a test to prove you were negative for COVID before flying.

Joyce is a supporter of the global goals, including vaccination, of the WEF and was a speaker at their last event. Anything he and his global partners suggests about taking this vaccine is biased but I don't double Scotty or the Emperor will come to his rescue and make it State or Federal law.
 

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What would be your limit of children per family?
The Chinese had their 1 child policy which they brutally enforced. Now it is virtually open slather. You will never convince Indians, Africans and South Americans to stop having kids.

China & India, Pakistan, Bangladesh are full to the brim.. The only country with a lot of open space, fertile ground and the world's largest supply of oil is Russia...China & Russia nearly went to war in 1979. Chinese farmers have been crossing into Russia since 2000 to do seasonal work..https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-50185006. The Chinese have always accused Russia of stealing land from China in the 1800's. One day soon China will slowly move on Russia.
 
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