Conspiracy Theory Coronavirus #2: Lockdowns

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[burge13]

Read thread, disgusting.

Big tech are going to kill themselves with hiding information. They aren't designed to be bias but they so obviously are

If I search for something, all links should pop up, when they don't that's an issue. They're a publisher now, not a search engine (different laws)

When this search relates to politics or medical information, the government has to step in... but who's brave enough?

More and more people are seeing the problem. It will then become a political issue and we know politicians love easy votes. Like lockdowns are easy votes currently, imposing stricter laws on big tech will be the low hanging fruit and we'll see change. It just requires a few bigger countries tackling it together imo

 

[Fwoy]

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[burge13]

These people just don't get it. It's about safety!!! Borders have to be shut, nothing else matters but covid

Man killed in truck crash near SA border

Witnesses have reported seeing truck drivers abusing South Australian police patrolling a border checkpoint during a chaotic night where a multiple truck collision led to the death of at least one person on the Western Highway at Serviceton.

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More pr0n for the GD board and its merry band of idiots

 

[burge13]

"Follow experts... not that expert. They don't agree with me"

Something we have been saying for 9 months at least. The cure is worse than the disease...

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Big tech are going to kill themselves with hiding information. They aren't designed to be bias but they so obviously are

If I search for something, all links should pop up, when they don't that's an issue. They're a publisher now, not a search engine (different laws)

When this search relates to politics or medical information, the government has to step in... but who's brave enough?

More and more people are seeing the problem. It will then become a political issue and we know politicians love easy votes. Like lockdowns are easy votes currently, imposing stricter laws on big tech will be the low hanging fruit and we'll see change. It just requires a few bigger countries tackling it together imo

Imagine if big tech put this much effort into stopping child pornography and grotesque violence on there platforms....

Putting out the spot fire while the city burns in the background is pretty much what big tech is all about nowadaus

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Probably too many people are ignoring the question. What is the difference between 1993 and 2021? It really is a case of history repeating itself with a opposite outcome

In 1993, the news was suppressed, the death tally counted up and a "whoops, just a bad year I guess" excuse trotted out until later on in the decade when they were kind of like "Yeah what happened here"

Id summarise it as the basic ideology of.

"In 1993, we consumed by foot, in 2021 we consume at home"

In 1993 if I wanted to buy something from Woolworths or in the US like Walmart, id drive to the shop, get my wallet out, give them my cash and drive home. In 2021 if I want to buy something from Woolworths or in the US like Walmart I can and they would prefer if I logged onto a website, clicked Add to Cart, put my credit card details in had a driver drop it off at my door step. Most big corps have gone this way. Even the larger franchises like McDonalds for example have jumped on this gravy train. The core reason is it allows someone to sell a good and a service and essentially take in a second chance for a profit. You can profit from selling the item and profit from the delivery too

In a way the only businesses in the entire world who still operate on that drive, wallet, cash concept is well small business and big corp and big tech are both smart enough to know that this is the competition they need to crush. Tech want it crushed because they know the more we drive to online purchasing, the more ad revenue they can generate. Big corp want it crushed because they know they can double dip from a sale and create a economic environment that only they can prosper in. Media benefit because the more money big corp has, the more competition for ad space, the more money they make. Politicians benefit from the fact the more money big corp has, the more money they can be given. They can also track and chase expenditure easily and it makes the job of policing the system so much easier. Very hard to hide your money from people if the system becomes cashless and all done via cards and online trading where essentially each receipt is logged and searchable

In a weird way guys, not wearing a mask or not taking a vaccine isnt really the core and fundamental step to overcoming the problem because as long as the changes drive consumption in the manner they want, the overlying actions of suppression and political rule will continue. Best thing to do worldwide is for people to backtrack our consumption patterns to a more foot and traffic consumption style. If we create a system where we consume by foot and not at home, they wont lock us up in our homes anymore when its all said and done

All this is probably too big a step and a "its too late, we lost" argument I think unfortunately

 

[faible]

Probably too many people are ignoring the question. What is the difference between 1993 and 2021? It really is a case of history repeating itself with a opposite outcome

In 1993, the news was suppressed, the death tally counted up and a "whoops, just a bad year I guess" excuse trotted out until later on in the decade when they were kind of like "Yeah what happened here"

Id summarise it as the basic ideology of.

"In 1993, we consumed by foot, in 2021 we consume at home"

In 1993 if I wanted to buy something from Woolworths or in the US like Walmart, id drive to the shop, get my wallet out, give them my cash and drive home. In 2021 if I want to buy something from Woolworths or in the US like Walmart I can and they would prefer if I logged onto a website, clicked Add to Cart, put my credit card details in had a driver drop it off at my door step. Most big corps have gone this way. Even the larger franchises like McDonalds for example have jumped on this gravy train. The core reason is it allows someone to sell a good and a service and essentially take in a second chance for a profit. You can profit from selling the item and profit from the delivery too

In a way the only businesses in the entire world who still operate on that drive, wallet, cash concept is well small business and big corp and big tech are both smart enough to know that this is the competition they need to crush. Tech want it crushed because they know the more we drive to online purchasing, the more ad revenue they can generate. Big corp want it crushed because they know they can double dip from a sale and create a economic environment that only they can prosper in. Media benefit because the more money big corp has, the more competition for ad space, the more money they make. Politicians benefit from the fact the more money big corp has, the more money they can be given. They can also track and chase expenditure easily and it makes the job of policing the system so much easier. Very hard to hide your money from people if the system becomes cashless and all done via cards and online trading where essentially each receipt is logged and searchable

In a weird way guys, not wearing a mask or not taking a vaccine isnt really the core and fundamental step to overcoming the problem because as long as the changes drive consumption in the manner they want, the overlying actions of suppression and political rule will continue. Best thing to do worldwide is for people to backtrack our consumption patterns to a more foot and traffic consumption style. If we create a system where we consume by foot and not at home, they wont lock us up in our homes anymore when its all said and done

All this is probably too big a step and a "its too late, we lost" argument I think unfortunately

Don't shop at big retailers, shop at small locally owned ones.

 

[Tranquilli37]

Dan's usually salivating at positive tests, yet seems abit toned down of late. Guessing after the tennis wraps up next weekend, Vics will be getting bent over again.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Dan's usually salivating at positive tests, yet seems abit toned down of late. Guessing after the tennis wraps up next weekend, Vics will be getting bent over again.

He knows these are 100% his fault again so will treat it as no big deal.

 

[Joey JoJo Shabad]

Anything to keep the fear pr0n going.

 

[Tiger Toffee]

Hmm interesting, i wonder if the staff are on 2 weeks forced holidays or is it just the patrons who cop it in the neck as i have been told by numerous business'.

Commonwealth Bank, Glen Waverley, on Tuesday, February 9, between 1.30pm – 2.45pm.

• HSBC Bank, Glen Waverley, on Tuesday, February 9, between 2.15pm – 3.30pm.

Anyone who attended the above locations at the listed times must get a COVID-19 test and isolate for 14 days.


And here is Queensland wanting to get in on the act


BREAKING: From 1am on Saturday, 13 February, Queensland will reinstate border declaration passes for anyone travelling to Queensland from Victoria.
The coronavirus cluster in Melbourne has now grown to eight cases, but thankfully there is no community transfer at this stage.
Our top priority is keeping Queenslanders safe and we will continue to monitor the situation closely.
As a precaution, travellers will need to confirm they have not been to any of the exposure sites listed by Victoria's Department of Health: https://www.dhhs.vic.gov.au/cas


Re the highlighted, they couldn't possibly be that stupid could they, if that's all that is about then they might as well have not even bothered TBH because only a complete moron would own up to being at an exposure site.

 

[Tiger Toffee]

And yet 50k at a minimum will converge on the MCG the night before and later that day, you actually wonder if these people think about things before opening their traps.


Jamie Twidale, the CEO of RSL Victoria, said after extensive discussions with the Anzac Day Commemorative Council, government and the Shrine, the decision was made to scale down the event this year because of the changing coronavirus situation.
“When you look at all the elements … it’s a pretty big COVID risk and really, really hard for a group of volunteers to organise,” Mr Twidale said.


It's two and a half months away you braindead idiot and it's always covid as the excuse, why don't you just say you don't have any cash to run the event because nothing being open in 2020 probably hurt your bottom line and the government doesn't want to pony up the difference, so it's better to just cancel and use covid as a very convenient excuse rather than just being honest. Just my opinion off course.

 

[giggler99]

**** these people seriously. I’m convinced Fauci is the worlds biggest bullshit and con artist.



Fauci says CDC may recommend double-masking
By Jackie Salo
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention may soon recommend all Americans wear two masks to enhance their protection against coronavirus, Dr. Anthony Fauci said Tuesday.

“It makes common sense,” the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases said in a livestreamed interview with the Washington Post.

Fauci said he met with colleagues at the CDC on Monday about the possibility — and the agency has agreed to conduct a study to determine the effectiveness of wearing two masks.

“The reason they don’t recommend it right now, it’s a science-based organization, the CDC,” Fauci said. “They make recommendations based on data and science, so that’s why they’re going to look at that particular issue.”


Fauci said he encourages people to double up on masks because it “can’t hurt.”

“The reason why many people are using double-masking and, in fact, you have probably have seen me wearing a double mask is that you can make a general common-sense extrapolation,” he said.

“If you put two on … [and] you’re looking for enhancing the physical barrier, it makes common sense that it certainly can’t hurt and might help.”

Fauci has previously called on people to start double-masking, though there are some concerns that the practice could cause more harm if one is not worn correctly.

Michael Osterholm, an infectious disease expert who was an adviser to President Biden’s transition team, said that problems can occur with masks that have an “already compromised fit or filtration capacity,” allowing respiratory droplets to escape out of holes.

“If you add on another mask, you may actually make it tougher for the air to move through the two-cloth area, and then at that point it causes more air to actually leak around the sides, which actually enhances your ability to get infected,” he told NBC anchor Chuck Todd on “Meet the Press” Sunday.

Fauci says CDC may recommend double-masking

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention may soon recommend all Americans wear two masks to enhance their protection against coronavirus, Dr. Anthony Fauci said Tuesday. “It makes commo…

nypost.com

 

[Run n Spread]

Don't shop at big retailers, shop at small locally owned ones.

Bit hard when they've all gone broke from high rents
Then were shut
Will struggle to survive lockdown.

I rarely buy online and am one of the last few who still predominantly use cash

 

[Run n Spread]

And yet 50k at a minimum will converge on the MCG the night before and later that day, you actually wonder if these people think about things before opening their traps.


Jamie Twidale, the CEO of RSL Victoria, said after extensive discussions with the Anzac Day Commemorative Council, government and the Shrine, the decision was made to scale down the event this year because of the changing coronavirus situation.
“When you look at all the elements … it’s a pretty big COVID risk and really, really hard for a group of volunteers to organise,” Mr Twidale said.


It's two and a half months away you braindead idiot and it's always covid as the excuse, why don't you just say you don't have any cash to run the event because nothing being open in 2020 probably hurt your bottom line and the government doesn't want to pony up the difference, so it's better to just cancel and use covid as a very convenient excuse rather than just being honest. Just my opinion off course.

This has GFC written all over it. Where when workers were slashed in industries and countries not affected it was the catch all. Now we have Covid

 

[faible]

Bit hard when they've all gone broke from high rents
Then were shut
Will struggle to survive lockdown.

I rarely buy online and am one of the last few who still predominantly use cash

Plenty are still around, and offer online purchasing.

 

[burge13]

2 masks now. Just LOL at anyone following this garbage

and yes, the fallout from covid will make the GFC look like childs play. The kicker? These lockdown losers will be the first to have their hand out asking for help from the government. They shouldn't get a cent of help

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Don't shop at big retailers, shop at small locally owned ones.

I dont have a Amazon account for that reason. Would rather chop my dick off and feed it to the wolves

The reality is though, we are the exception and not the norm

Dont close your eyes and pretend the small locally owned ones are not doing worse while the big boys fly. JB HiFi/Harvey Norman and cos quarterly statements tell us all you need to know about that

I wish it wasnt the case myself, but you cant ignore the reality because it doesnt suit the narrative. Worldwide big business is doing much much better then small ones

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Plenty are still around, and offer online purchasing.

Thats not really true in the sense, they offer online purchasing but unlike big business it comes at a cost to them. A good example is the auto industry. Bursons have crushed their competition this year largely thanks to the fact they organised a deal with Toll where there shipping costs are about 3 bucks each, which allows them to add on profit. At the same time Toll and co created surchase costs for the smaller businesses. Essentially if Bursons sends you a part it costs Bursons 3 bucks and the customer 9. If Bobs Autos sends you the same part it costs Bobs Autos to that same area in Perth 40-120 bucks in alot of cases and Bursons 3 bucks and the customer 9.

They offer the product at a cost, Big business offers the product at a benefit. The move to online purchasing is hurting them because when it comes time to compete, they get absolutely crushed by big business with nothing they can do to turn the tide

Online purchasing is the evil here, not the big business purchase in itself. The online purchase is creating the lack of competition as opposed to the want or desire to spend there. I mean if you go to your mechanic and the mechanic says, I can buy the part for 60 bucks from Bursons or 180 bucks from Bobs Autos, are you gonna tell him to go to Bobs Autos? Not bloody likely.

 

[faible]

I dont have a Amazon account for that reason. Would rather chop my dick off and feed it to the wolves

The reality is though, we are the exception and not the norm

Dont close your eyes and pretend the small locally owned ones are not doing worse while the big boys fly. JB HiFi/Harvey Norman and cos quarterly statements tell us all you need to know about that

I wish it wasnt the case myself, but you cant ignore the reality because it doesnt suit the narrative. Worldwide big business is doing much much better then small ones

JB and HN aren't too bad to be doing well, Amazon was talked up as being a killer for them both. At least they're Australian domiciled companies, unlike an Amazon.

It's finding alternatives like supporting local markets or green grocers for produce, bulk food stores, butchers, delis etc... generally an easy substitute to make.

Clothing retail is a little harder since stuff simply isn't made here any more, but there's plenty of Australian owned retailers you can buy from even if the product themselves are made elsewhere.

Stuff like Bunnings is tricky, you'd prefer to hand your cash over to locally owned hardware stores and nurseries where possible, but it's pretty tough to avoid for most.

I'd always prefer to put my money in the pocket of someone who lives in my local community, or city, or country as much as possible ahead of the big multi-nationals, even if there's a slight premium on doing so.

 

[faible]

Thats not really true in the sense, they offer online purchasing but unlike big business it comes at a cost to them. A good example is the auto industry. Bursons have crushed their competition this year largely thanks to the fact they organised a deal with Toll where there shipping costs are about 3 bucks each, which allows them to add on profit. At the same time Toll and co created surchase costs for the smaller businesses. Essentially if Bursons sends you a part it costs Bursons 3 bucks and the customer 9. If Bobs Autos sends you the same part it costs Bobs Autos to that same area in Perth 40-120 bucks in alot of cases and Bursons 3 bucks and the customer 9.

They offer the product at a cost, Big business offers the product at a benefit. The move to online purchasing is hurting them because when it comes time to compete, they get absolutely crushed by big business with nothing they can do to turn the tide

Online purchasing is the evil here, not the big business purchase in itself. The online purchase is creating the lack of competition as opposed to the want or desire to spend there. I mean if you go to your mechanic and the mechanic says, I can buy the part for 60 bucks from Bursons or 180 bucks from Bobs Autos, are you gonna tell him to go to Bobs Autos? Not bloody likely.

Don't disagree really, it's hard on smaller retailers as they simply can't provide the volume to get the rates the national guys can.

If you're talking local metro to metro they can do fine; within Perth or Melbourne to other locations within the same city they can get competitive rates, but once you start running MEL - SYD, SYD to PER, that kind of stuff, it's tough.

TOLL is also a shambles of a company FWIW. Ripped off Japan Post when they bought in, and will probably see Japan Post lose close to $10b by the time they off-load it.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Owen and co have what I refer to as "the best outcome" approach. Meaning that when a change is implemented the resultis purely outcome based and fails to take into account anything but the end outcome. Its the idea that "I want to save this persons life", getting in your car, running over 2 people, saving the persons life and being like "Im a hero, I saved that persons life"

Reality is, the path to the outcome is as important as the outcome. Dont look at the end result, look at the positives and assume it was a success. Look at the underlying outcome and how you got there because in life its so much more important

A example is, I dont buy Nike. The outcome is a cheap quality product, the path is child slave labor camps. The path is not worth the outcome. Throw them things in the bin. Unfortunately lockdown is fairly similar. The outcome is less covid deaths, the path is ecnomic destruction, higher poverty, higher depression rates, higher suicide rates, fear, anger. The path is not worth the outcome

 

[burge13]

Pointless banging your head against that wall. Theyll never admit now that it wasnt worth it. Covid >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything, no matter all evidence against that.

Cancer screenings down 40% in 2020. If that doesnt worry people about healthcare strain soon, youre deluded. Will be a huge problem (which media wont cover as it isnt covid). Have we caught up all the elective surgeries missed? Elective btw includes very important procedures for life like ACLs and dental.

It just defies common sense to say the disease was way worse than the cure. It simply isnt close

Kids schooling missed and milestones they wont catch up and absolutely shamefully the funerals rules. Its a disgrace what played out in 2020 but these people will never admit to they supported the wrong side. Its a game for them, covid is their team and as we see in australian sport, people are very loyal to their teams...

 

[Registered User]

Pointless banging your head against that wall.....

I'll say it again, I'm sick of the blobbenly masses. Stuff 'em. I'm no longer gunna spread facts about the probably dodgy vaccines made by proven dodgy companies, because if more plebs get jabbed, then Dan's and Scomo's goons are less likely to force us to get it down the track.

Check this out from 2016:

AstraZeneca to pay $5.5 million for bribing doctors in China and Russia

By Ed Silverman Aug. 31, 2016

AstraZeneca to pay $5.5 million for bribing doctors in China and Russia

AstraZeneca personnel were charged with scheming to offer gifts, conference expenses, travel, cash, and other thing to influence the purchase of company drugs.

www.statnews.com