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Conspiracy Theory Coronavirus #2: Lockdowns

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Thoughts on COVID-19? (Choose 2 options)

  • It's a naturally occurring virus

    Votes: 15 20.3%
  • It came from a Chinese laboratory

    Votes: 31 41.9%
  • It came from a US/other laboratory

    Votes: 5 6.8%
  • It's dangerous and harsh restrictions are necessary

    Votes: 19 25.7%
  • It's not dangerous enough to warrant harsh restrictions

    Votes: 22 29.7%
  • It's basically another flu, so restrictions are silly

    Votes: 14 18.9%

  • Total voters
    74

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Honest question

If someone commits domestic violence, people get a passport and are allowed in to Australia. A constant thing. Do you think we should let these people in? Do you think for example if you commit any violent crime they should get a mark on there passport or banned?

And I guess to a front, what’s more dangerous. A violent women basher or a non vaxxed grandma. According to Austraia, it’s the grandma..... I’m sure this is okay though ?

The point is. Police the danger all the time or non of the time. Doing it half assed just leads tthe fact it’s better to bash a woman then refuse a needle in Australia’s eyes
Dont ask Hawkie to think, he isnt capable
 
You've lost me with the Gates reference. But yeah Bill Gates is a brilliant man that is turning his considerable talents towards trying to eradicate what's left of polio, address sanitation in third world countries, effectively respond to malaria - most his vast fortune has been pledged to humanitarian causes after he dies. If I was supreme emperor of the world, I don't think that I'd run things along the current globalized capitalised system but in the world as it is I'd prefer the Billionaires are more like Gates and less like Bezos. There's something not right about drug companies making drugs for profit and there are lots of problems with it , such as the high costs of AIDS medications for third world countries.

Dude...

Watch the video I posted and go through the Bill Gates part.

Bill Gates FORCED the Oxford University to sell distribution rights to AstraZenecca and limit production in the process to make profit.....

Ffs man, it was quicker to watch that then come up with this uneducated garbage. Sack up and admit you are wrong on the Bill Gates front.

Having a issue with drug company profits and not Bill Gates though is a bit like hating rap music but owning Snoop Doggs entire discography collection. You probably need to align the two thoughts so they are not exact opposites of one another
 
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Dont ask Hawkie to think, he isnt capable

I guess to take it further.

Hawkie is okay to walk by a kiddy fiddler in broad daylight wearing a face mask but will be offended by a volunteer firefighter without a face mask. A bit of a ****ing weird place for society to be in isnt it?
 
Dude...

Watch the video I posted and go through the Bill Gates part.

Bill Gates FORCED the Oxford University to sell distribution rights to AstraZenecca and limit production in the process to make profit.....

Ffs man, it was quicker to watch that then come up with this uneducated garbage. Sack up and admit you are wrong on the Bill Gates front.

Having a issue with drug company profits and not Bill Gates though is a bit like hating rap music but owning Snoop Doggs entire discography collection. You probably need to align the two thoughts so they are not exact opposites of one another
But staying apart keeps us together 🤪
 

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You've lost me with the Gates reference. But yeah Bill Gates is a brilliant man that is turning his considerable talents towards trying to eradicate what's left of polio, address sanitation in third world countries, effectively respond to malaria - most his vast fortune has been pledged to humanitarian causes after he dies. If I was supreme emperor of the world, I don't think that I'd run things along the current globalized capitalised system but in the world as it is I'd prefer the Billionaires are more like Gates and less like Bezos. There's something not right about drug companies making drugs for profit and there are lots of problems with it , such as the high costs of AIDS medications for third world countries.

Dude I gotta quote this twice. This is literally the worst post ive ever read on any internet site ever.

So you are in here questioning the evidence being provided against anti vaccination claims. You then make pro vaccination claims (ie. sticking up for its funder BilL Gates). we provide multiple examples against your claims of his greatness (atleast 3 by me) and the end result is "You lost me"

Its easy to get lost when you refuse to accept the truth and create your own reality. Its much easier to step out of Venkland, join us in reality and heres a hint, READ AND WATCH IT ALL AND THEN COMMENT

Cherrypicking things that suit your argument and being lost by those that dont is incredibly weak. Be better
 
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Billions in brown paper bags perhaps?
No matter who keeps bringing it up, MSM just let it go to the keeper and then flood us with more Covid fear or what Meaghan Markle is up to. I must have heard about her 20 times today on 5 different radio channels throughout the news updates!!
 
Your stuff is absolute garbage. You throw up info that is legit and then re analysed by clowns or analysed by yourself with no legitimate understanding of context. There is no one in the mainstream scientific community that provides this kind of interpretation that you have. Your prior post above but is sourced from a long running anti vaxxer whose sole qualification is an arts degree and had had 'uk.gov' stamped on it but it had nothing to do with government information which is of course contrary to what you have here - the CDC says that

""Over 76 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines were administered in the United States from December 14, 2020, through March 1, 2021. During this time, VAERS received 1,381 reports of death (0.0018%) among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine. CDC and FDA physicians review each case report of death as soon as notified and CDC requests medical records to further assess reports. A review of available clinical information including death certificates, autopsy, and medical records revealed no evidence that vaccination contributed to patient deaths. CDC and FDA will continue to investigate reports of adverse events, including deaths, reported to VAERS.""

and, again you are witnessing highly fragile population groups being given vaccines and you are using this to gain some kind of benefit. You clearly have no interest in checking the veracity of your sources and seem to be cutting and pasting from anti vax sites. It's shameful that you are circulating this crap.
I have seen no evidence you've even read any of the original published vaccine studies or the .pdfs Pfizer and Oxford AZ submitted to US and UK to get emergency approval that shows you have any legitimate understanding of the safety and efficacy of the genetically modified injections called COVID vaccines.

There are thousands of doctors, specialists, heads of medical institutes, an ex Pfizer research VP, that are warning about the injections and explaining the danger of not having medium and long term safety and efficacy results. It's the experts that are the most experienced with vaccines that are giving the loudest warnings.

VAERS is run by the CDC in the US, but everyone that questions with legitimate data the safety of the COVID vaccines is antivax to you. The CDC warn that "De-identified VAERS data are available 4-6 weeks after the report is received."

So the total of 1381 deaths resulting from doses administered between 14th December to March 1st, is 4 to 6 weeks behind any reports related to those doses as are any deaths that happened beyond a few hours or days for the later doses.

Only a few autopsies are done, but almost none done for COVID deaths which the CDC stated (in the link I've posted previously) that only 6% of the deaths had no other serious co-morbidities. 94% of deaths attributed to COVID-19 in the US could have been attributed to other causes of autopsies were done.
 
Dude I gotta quote this twice. This is literally the worst post ive ever read on any internet site ever.

So you are in here questioning the evidence being provided against anti vaccination claims. You then make pro vaccination claims (ie. sticking up for its funder BilL Gates). we provide multiple examples against your claims of his greatness (atleast 3 by me) and the end result is "You lost me"

Its easy to get lost when you refuse to accept the truth and create your own reality. Its much easier to step out of Venkland, join us in reality and heres a hint, READ AND WATCH IT ALL AND THEN COMMENT

Cherrypicking things that suit your argument and being lost by those that dont is incredibly weak. Be better

I've watched it. I agree with a lot of what he says, but I don't see that (profit) as Gates' motive, but he's definitely a capitalist. He's right to criticise these systems and the profit motive generally. He's also careful not to query the efficacy or science of the vaccines themselves. It seems that Russel Brand is providing a more sophisticated critique of globalisation than you realise and its kind of weird that people in here conflate his message with the nutbag anti-vax stuff coming out of the US and which old mate keeps posting here. His criticism of big pharma is spot on but this is the world we live in - you could make similar arguments re the US military industrial complex - seems kind of conflicted that the politicians that make the war all go on to get jobs on the boards of armaments companies - doesn't mean the bombs and planes don't work tho.
 
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Here is the VAERS report for serious adverse events from COVID vaccine in the US processed up until 26th Feb 2021. It takes 4 to 6 weeks after a report is submitted for it to be processed so can assume, these 360,423 serious adverse events are mostly from the first month.
 

We, the undersigned on behalf of the Concerned Lawyers Network (on behalf of pending clients, victims and those with legal standing and this lawyer network) write this open letter to request a review and wind back of measures taken by Victorian and Australian governments which were based on the premise of a Covid19 pandemic existing and/or continuing, leading to declared states of emergency, states of disaster and other related legal measures.

SUMMARY POINTS
1. Covid19 (if it can be isolated) may simply be another coronavirus such as the flu or common cold. Patents for Covid19 medical testing kits however were manufactured and sold many years ago to many countries including Australia.
2. The WHO has falsely declared a pandemic in relation to Covid19.
3. Covid19 death statistics in Australia as well as in other nations have been manipulated.
4. Covid19 tests are unreliable to test any specific disease.
5. There are global agendas behind the declaration of Covid19 pandemic, to benefit certain foreign individuals and companies financially and to gain control of populations including in Australia.
6. There is no pandemic in Australia according to medical evidence-at most a seasonal flu type epidemic, nothing justifying declaring states of emergency or disaster. Covid19 has been found to be a type of flu (coronavirus) with an estimated 99.9% survival rate across all age groups with the highest risk groups of over 65 estimated at 99.6%.
7. Confined steps can be taken to take care of elderly or immune compromised people more likely to suffer from Covid19 as has been the case in the past with influenza, without restricting the freedoms of masses of healthy people.
8. There are serious conflicts of interest between some representatives of government, appointed health officials and taskforces, and pharmaceutical corporations and global interests that prioritise their own profits and control, instead of the health interests of Australians.
9. Australians have been exploited through fear, misinformation and obstruction of freedoms as a result of the continuation of the false statement that there is a Covid19 pandemic and the insistence that they must obey disproportional laws, rules and directions that curtail them physically, mentally and financially causing them much harm including in some cases death.
10. Key decision makers in Australian governments and the public service have enormous conflicts of interests relating to vaccine companies and other medical manufacturers and suppliers, influencing their decisions. They are also being influenced by global players and global policy instead of the Australian people who elected them. Covid19 has been used as a cover to bring about police states and financially benefit vaccine companies as well as those who with vested interests in vaccine companies and controlling populations.
11. All ministers and other persons to whom this letter is addressed, are PUT ON NOTICE of Personal Civil And Criminal Liability potentially arising against them for any current or future intentional or reckless continuation of misrepresentation of information and misuse of power of office, causing direct loss and damage to Australians.


Opening statement
3. failed to properly inform Victorians and Australians of, or take into account in their decision making, the evidence of effective treatment for Covid19 such as Invermectin and Hydroxychloroquine and any good reasons why such medications were banned all of a sudden.

4. failed to properly inform Victorians and Australians of, or take into account in their decision making relevant and independent evidence of the serious side effects of vaccines in general including death, and the need for years of successful research before releasing medications in general; and

5. failed to properly inform Victorians and Australians of, or take into account in their decision making, financial or vested interests (of ministers, health officials and public services and subordinate bodies appointed by them), in vaccine production, and the legal protection granted to the vaccine companies in the event of injury or death from citizens taking vaccines.

IS COVID19 EVEN SCIENTIFICALLY ISOLATED? Chinese papers that claim Covid19 (Sars Cov 2) is a new virus - did not pass Koch’s postulates.

Freedom of Information Requests around the world seeking documents of the isolation of Covid19 have been met with official responses to the negative. See FOI Formal Responses EXHIBITS/ TESTING (The Australian FOI request is p27-28 of the pdf “The [Australian Health] department does not hold the documents you are seeking access to.”)

THE CDC NOW CLEARLY STATES THAT COVID19 HAS STILL NOT BEEN ISOLATED The CDC document is titled, “CDC 2019-Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) Real-Time RT-PCR Diagnostic Panel.” It is dated 13 July, 2020 and on page 39, in a section titled, “Performance Characteristics,” it states: “Since no quantified virus isolates of the 2019-nCoV are currently available, assays [diagnostic tests] designed for detection of the 2019-nCoV RNA were tested with characterized stocks of in vitro transcribed full length RNA…”

HARVESTING DNA FROM TESTING AND GENE EDITING
 In the UK laws have already been passed allowing the retention of a person’s DNA after they submit to a Covid19 test. Premier and Prime Minister is this taking place in Australia now or are there plans for a similar law to be introduced here? If so, for what purpose? Is consent being obtained for DNA harvesting? Who is managing the DNA database? Is it Chinese?
 The Gates Foundation is heavily involved in gene editing technology.

MEDICAL EXPERT OPINIONS APPEAR TO BE IGNORED IN OUR HEALTH POLICY
The Victorian and Australian governments, heads of health and associated individuals and ministers responsible for delivering good health policy to Australians, appear to have ignored tens of thousands of independent medical and science expert opinions and peer reviewed studies when making or changing health policy in relation to Covid19 and the alleged pandemic. see EXHIBIT MEDICAL EXPERTS SUMMARY- LIST OF AUSTRALIAN AND INTERNATIONATIONAL MEDICAL AUTHORITIES DOCTORS AND SCIENTISTS LETTERS AND REPORTS

CONFLICTS OF INTEREST
In March 2020, Prime Minister Scott Morrison announced the creation of the ‘National Covid19 Coordination Commission (NCCC). Members of the NCCC do not appear to represent the interests of small business or ‘everyday Australians’. Instead, they hold senior board positions of companies in mining, oil and gas, airlines, private hospitals, pharmaceutical companies, casinos and superannuation giants. One member is a 16 billionaire. Another was recently accused for being ‘an international tax dodger’ by a Senator. Another chairs an international organisation at the forefront of brokering private-public partnerships and garnering billions in taxpayer dollars to fund Covid-19 vaccine development.

The Morrison Government’s choice of NCCC board members, and the glaring omission of any member who could be said to represent small business or employee unions, is a farcical premise of ‘mitigating the economic and social effects’ of Covid-10. I believe to be the true function of the NCCC Executive Board is apparent - to facilitate the taxpayer-funded bailout of the industries they represent, and to broker the transfer of vast swathes of public money to private coffers. ref pages 75-76 HARRISON REPORT

The Conflicts of Interest include:
Jane Halton’s involvement with CEPI and other entities ...
 Victoria’s Chief Health Officer, Brett Sutton ...
The Rockefeller Foundation influence on Australian policy makers: it has published their recommended policy response to Covid-19. Their answer to ‘restart the economy’ is mass genetic testing, bio-surveillance and the launch of a ‘Covid-19 Community Health Care Corps’ - a disturbingly militarised mass-testing and surveillance program. This includes using medical health records, digital tracking of workforces and resting heart rate and temperature trends, in a ‘privacy-centric’ [not private] program. ref pages 69 & 212 HARRISON REPORT
Conflict of interest of members of the Federal Covid Commission members and task forces relate to CEPI, Cochrane, Who, and Jane Halton- see pages 78-84 HARRISON REPORT
Greg Hunt- Doherty – Jack Ma/Alibaba Group -financial relationships and conflict of interest and big pharmaceutical companies- ...
Doherty -Glaxo -Apprise- AAHMS
 Conflicts of interest- Dr Frazer inventor of HPV Vaccine, Greg Hunt and WHO.
 Deep financial ties- Doherty Institute and Gates Foundation.
Australia’s reliance on WHO for health policy –but WHO receives large financial voluntary contributions from vaccine and pharmaceutical companies In its most recent 2017 voluntary contribution report the WHO accounted for the $2.1 billion it received from private foundations and global corporations. This compared to just over $1 billion voluntarily provided by governments
 Large pharmaceutical companies are policing approval of their own vaccines.
 It is reported overseas that large pharmaceutical companies influence and control which doctors are on safety boards
 Conflict of Interest Dan Andrews, Brett Sutton, Trevor Sutton, Jane Halton, Unified Security and SSG and Pinskier family https://www.seetvnews.com/post/family-ties
 Additional Conflicts of Interest- refer to EXHIBIT Summary Conflicts of Interests
VICTORIAN GOVERNMENT & BIG PHARMA COMPANIES
MEDIA CONFLICTS OF INTEREST Murdoch and Big Pharma
 

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I've watched it. I agree with a lot of what he says, but I don't see that (profit) as Gates' motive, but he's definitely a capitalist. He's right to criticise these systems and the profit motive generally. He's also careful not to query the efficacy or science of the vaccines themselves. It seems that Russel Brand is providing a more sophisticated critique of globalisation than you realise and its kind of weird that people in here conflate his message with the nutbag anti-vax stuff coming out of the US and which old mate keeps posting here. His criticism of big pharma is spot on but this is the world we live in - you could make similar arguments re the US military industrial complex - seems kind of conflicted that the politicians that make the war all go on to get jobs on the boards of armaments companies - doesn't mean the bombs and planes don't work tho.

The guy who restricts supply to increase demand isnt motivated by profit? WTF are you smoking.

He does question the efficacy, it’s going over your head. He is explaining to you that FDA and TGA approval is essentially useless since they 100 percent funded by the same person asking for apprival. He also explains how they constantly lie about test results and explains how the same people you are blindly trusting have 400,000 people as a body count and climbing due to their lies and inaction. The rest is hyperbole. When you are comparing a assault rifle to a injection in your arm how can it not be. Unless they are going to give out 6 billion guns to everyone for free and demand they take it, it’s not really the same
 
This is a bit "out there", but it's sure entertaining

 
Are you guys being played by the Russians ?

Disinformation is a great word isn’t it. Use it and your entire burden of proof disappears

Even if you believe this is true, the retaliation to it is just so weak. Rather then use the word disinformation and run into the corner, why not prove yourself correct? Why not define your efficacy, define your dosage sizes, define the side effects, define how often we need to have the thing. I mean have they even named the thing?

If they want to prove disinformation wrong, use facts, not the word Russia
 

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Disinformation is a great word isn’t it. Use it and your entire burden of proof disappears

Even if you believe this is true, the retaliation to it is just so weak. Rather then use the word disinformation and run into the corner, why not prove yourself correct? Why not define your efficacy, define your dosage sizes, define the side effects, define how often we need to have the thing. I mean have they even named the thing?

If they want to prove disinformation wrong, use facts, not the word Russia
facts ...lol
Surely thats not a criteria in this thread
its all about sharing memes from Russian spambotted sites
 
facts ...lol
Surely thats nt a criteria in this thread
its all about feels

It’s a pretty big criteria really. We are quoting stories from real people, court cases from real courts proving real negligence

You however are just supporting blind faith. You can put blind faith behind the company that has killed 400,000 people and counting. I would rather not
 
It’s a pretty big criteria really. We are quoting stories from real people, court cases from real courts proving real negligence

You however are just supporting blind faith. You can put blind faith behind the company that has killed 400,000 people and counting. I would rather not
How do you count the death toll for vaccine deaths and is it a different criteria to Covid deaths ?
 
Wonder if she has the intellect to figure out she doesn't have to go to restaurants, bars and clubs... just stay home if you're that worried you fool.

Maybe she thinks the government will make it compulsory to go to restaurants, bars and clubs.:rolleyes:
 
How do you count the death toll for vaccine deaths and is it a different criteria to Covid deaths ?

The vaccine death toll is 5 percent of the issue really, but in this sense you simply do a autopsy and follow standard protocols we have had for decades. We are not doing that at the moment which is a core issue. Maybe you won’t agree but i personally think it’s gross that US hospitals get a 20% increase in payments for a Covid related death then a suicide for example. If you want equality in counting deaths, step one would be to create equality In financially remunerating it too

Outside of that lets look at the other 95%. 30 percent of the issue is the horrible profit taking going on. Do you think it’s okay for Oxford University to sign exclusive distribution deals to lower production to increase profits? Do you have faith in a company that acts like so? Why are you so happy to just accept people profitimg from death?

40 percent is well, does it work? Has anyone besides the makers and the financial benefactors assosicated shown it works. You may put weight in getting a A+ in a test you write, you take and then you self mark but I’m after more proof then that and so should you. After all the last big test they self graded has a 400,000 people death toll and growing or is it something you want to sweep under the rug?

The other 25 percent of the issue is the vaccine isn’t solving the decline in social development. If the vaccine is the ticket out, why does the theme park look the same when you exit the door? If it doesn’t improve society what’s the point? i was hoping the vaccine even if flawed and useless would improve society and allow freedoms to return. That isn’t happening now is it? I guess you don’t count deaths via suicide etc anyway so I’m beating on a dead horse here.

All in all, something that may or may not work that dcreates giant profits for the mega wealthy and doesn’t move society to a better place isn’t a net positive to me.
 
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