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Conspiracy Theory Coronavirus #2: Lockdowns

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Thoughts on COVID-19? (Choose 2 options)

  • It's a naturally occurring virus

    Votes: 15 20.3%

  • It came from a Chinese laboratory

    Votes: 31 41.9%

  • It came from a US/other laboratory

    Votes: 5 6.8%

  • It's dangerous and harsh restrictions are necessary

    Votes: 19 25.7%

  • It's not dangerous enough to warrant harsh restrictions

    Votes: 22 29.7%

  • It's basically another flu, so restrictions are silly

    Votes: 14 18.9%
  • Total voters
    74

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Incidentally, given the MO of most countries re the vaccines, I'm really surprised that the CDC and the UK equivalent post any of those stats at all.

Firstly, I gather they can count on the media not reporting it (I'm shocked that the "clotting" stories got some press hear. I guess that's only because whole countries have paused or banned the use of the AZ jab), and secondly, and more importantly, I reckon it's so some of them can cover their arses if mucho sh!t really hits many fans. They can say, "Just because we didn't talk about the dangerous vaccines on the telly, it's not our fault! We slipped in....er, I mean put the vaccine death stats on our website as a warning for everyone to see, so it's your fault your granny died because you didn't check".

It'll be like the alien in Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy who, when complaints about the imminent demolition of Earth were put to him, said:

“There’s no point in acting surprised about it. All the planning charts and demolition orders have been on display at your local planning department in Alpha Centauri for 50 of your Earth years, so you’ve had plenty of time to lodge any formal complaint, and it’s far too late to start making a fuss about it now. …
What do you mean you’ve never been to Alpha Centauri? Oh, for heaven’s sake, mankind, it’s only four light years away, you know. I’m sorry, but if you can’t be bothered to take an interest in local affairs, that’s your own lookout :tongueoutv1:
 
This isn't about vaccine injury, it's about something else altogether!! And this guy is a pro-vaxxer

" Open Letter About why mass vaccination amidst a pandemic creates an irrepressible monster "
By Geert Vanden Bossche (DVM, PhD, March 6, 2021)

Geert Vanden Bossche, DMV, PhD, independent virologist and vaccine expert, formerly employed at GAVI and The Bill & Melinda Gates Foundaton.

'To all authorities, scientists and experts around the world, to whom this concerns: the entre world populaton. I am all but an anti-vaxxer. As a scientist, I do not usually appeal to any platform of this kind to make a stand on vaccine-related topics. As a dedicated virologist and vaccine expert, I only make an exception when health authorities allow vaccines to be administered in ways that threaten public health, most certainly when scientific evidence is being ignored. The present extremely critical situation forces me to spread this emergency call. As the unprecedented extent of human intervention in the Covid-19- pandemic is now at risk of resulting in a global catastrophe without equal, this call cannot sound loudly and strongly enough........
www.geertvandenbossche.org

DVM, PhD | Geert Vanden Bossche

Geert Vanden Bossche, DMV, PhD, independent virologist and vaccine expert, formerly employed at GAVI and The Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, sends open call to all authorities, scientists and experts around the world, to whom this concerns: the entire world population.
www.geertvandenbossche.org www.geertvandenbossche.org
 
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The Science behind the catastrophic consequences of thoughtless human intervention in the Covid-19 Pandemic
– by Geert Vanden Bossche (DVM, PhD, March 13, 2021)

"I cannot emphasise enough how passionate I am about vaccines, but I cannot accept that we use vaccines which, instead of mitgating the Covid-19 pandemic, are now at risk of dramatically aggravating it.....

https://37b32f5a-6ed9-4d6d-b3e1-5ec...d/28d8fe_0876a485f5314574a96a201f5a0d4619.pdf
 
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FMD!! This sh1t's much more frightening than I realised! Similar stuff is discussed by another dude in that Bitchute video posted on here yesterday. It's not just about the people getting jabbed, it's potentially about all of us, due to possible mutative consequences of mass-vaccinations while the virus getting around. If Burge13 or Blue E have posted similar stuff, I've missed it.

And, as I said, this guy is a "vaxxer".

How Mass Vaccination Drives Viral Immune Escape
by Geert Vanden Bossche (DVM, PhD, March 8, 2021)

'I’ve attached the slides of the keynote that I held yesterday at the Vaccine Summit in Ohio, titled, “Why should current Covid-19 vaccines not be used for mass vaccination during a pandemic?”

The bottom line is that I don’t see how mass vaccination campaigns would not lead to a disastrous aggravation of the Covid-19 pandemic. However, no one else seems to realise; instead, vaccinologists, clinicians and scientists are merely focusing on the (positive) short-term results and impact at an individual level. Nobody seems to be looking at the consequences and risk at a human population level (which, according to my understanding, will become manifest quite soon).

Why is nobody worried about ‘immune escape’ whereas Covid-19 has already escaped people’s innate immunity as reflected by multiple emerging, much more infectious, viral variants (most likely due to the global implementation of infection prevention measures)? Vaccine deployment in the ongoing mass immunisation campaigns are highly likely to further enhance (adaptive) immune escape as none of the current vaccines will prevent replication/transmission of viral variants. The more we use these vaccines for immunising people in the midst of a pandemic, the more infectious the virus will become.

With increasing infectiousness comes an increased likelihood of viral resistance to the vaccines. It's not exactly rocket science, it’s a basic principle taught in a student’s first vaccinology class: One shouldn’t use a prophylactic vaccine in populations exposed to high infectious pressure (which is now certainly the case as multiple highly infectious variants are currently circulating in many parts of the world). To fully escape selective immune pressure exerted by vaccinal antibodies, Covid-19, a highly mutable virus, only needs to add another few mutations in its receptor-binding domain.
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I am beyond worried about the disastrous impact this would have on our human ‘race’. Not only would people lose vaccine-mediated protection but also their precious, variant-nonspecific (!), innate immunity will be gone (this is because vaccinal antibodies outcompete natural antibodies for binding to Covid-19, even when their affinity for the viral variant is relatively low).

I know, of course, that current mass vaccination campaigns enjoy vigorous and world-wide support from a multitude of different parties/ stakeholders. However, unless I am proven wrong, this cannot be an excuse for ignoring that mankind may currently be transforming a quite harmless virus into an uncontrollable monster. I’ve never been that serious about a statement I made

 
Now, to be 'balanced', and to appease some of my current fears..... :grinv1: ....

codeblue.galencentre.org

More Covid Misinformation Debunked — Dr Musa Mohd Nordin

The vaccine rollout should be ramped up to reap the full benefits of mass vaccination.
codeblue.galencentre.org codeblue.galencentre.org

"Now, apparently there exists dangers of mass vaccinations as alleged by Dr Geert Vanden Bossche. These people obviously do not know their history. In the 20th century alone, 350-500 million died from smallpox. The World Health Organization (WHO) kick-started mass smallpox vaccination programmes in the 1950s.

Through this global programme, smallpox was successfully eradicated in 1980. In 1985, there were 400,000 cases of polio. Following the Global Polio Eradication Initiative (GPEI), which is a universal polio vaccination programme of at least three doses in the first year and two boosters thereafter, i.e. mass vaccination for all children, polio cases have plummeted by 99.9 per cent to 33 reported cases in 2018. If we do not listen to these people and Dr Bossche, the world will very soon be polio-free.
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They quoted Dr Bossche who warned that mass vaccination “creates more asymptomatic cases to spread the virus as the vaccines DO NOT prevent infection and transmission”. I think they need to keep abreast of the most current literature on the pandemic and not rehash old and outdated press reports. Their allegations obviously constitute misinformation because:
  • There are 55 per cent less cases of Covid-19 after the mass Pfizer mRNA vaccine immunisation programme was initiated.
  • There are 71 per cent less Covid-related deaths
  • There are 44 per cent less admissions to ICUs.
They allege mass vaccination “helps create new variants and promotes viral immune escape“. Yes, there have been some new variants, namely the UK B117, South Africa B1351 and Brazil P1 mutant strains. This is actually anticipated and not surprising, as what has happened with other pathogens. For example, there is a need to immunise annually against influenza, due to antigenic mutations. Note that 80 per cent of the mutant strains in Israel was the UK B117 variant, and yet the Pfizer mRNA was effective against this new mutant.
 
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Now, to be 'balanced', and to appease some of my current fears..... :grinv1: ....

codeblue.galencentre.org

More Covid Misinformation Debunked — Dr Musa Mohd Nordin

The vaccine rollout should be ramped up to reap the full benefits of mass vaccination.
codeblue.galencentre.org codeblue.galencentre.org

"Now, apparently there exists dangers of mass vaccinations as alleged by Dr Geert Vanden Bossche. These people obviously do not know their history. In the 20th century alone, 350-500 million died from smallpox. The World Health Organization (WHO) kick-started mass smallpox vaccination programmes in the 1950s.

Through this global programme, smallpox was successfully eradicated in 1980. In 1985, there were 400,000 cases of polio. Following the Global Polio Eradication Initiative (GPEI), which is a universal polio vaccination programme of at least three doses in the first year and two boosters thereafter, i.e. mass vaccination for all children, polio cases have plummeted by 99.9 per cent to 33 reported cases in 2018. If we do not listen to these people and Dr Bossche, the world will very soon be polio-free.
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They quoted Dr Bossche who warned that mass vaccination “creates more asymptomatic cases to spread the virus as the vaccines DO NOT prevent infection and transmission”. I think they need to keep abreast of the most current literature on the pandemic and not rehash old and outdated press reports. Their allegations obviously constitute misinformation because:
  • There are 55 per cent less cases of Covid-19 after the mass Pfizer mRNA vaccine immunisation programme was initiated.
  • There are 71 per cent less Covid-related deaths
  • There are 44 per cent less admissions to ICUs.
They allege mass vaccination “helps create new variants and promotes viral immune escape“. Yes, there have been some new variants, namely the UK B117, South Africa B1351 and Brazil P1 mutant strains. This is actually anticipated and not surprising, as what has happened with other pathogens. For example, there is a need to immunise annually against influenza, due to antigenic mutations. Note that 80 per cent of the mutant strains in Israel was the UK B117 variant, and yet the Pfizer mRNA was effective against this new mutant.
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Positive Cases can't be used as a statistic when they're related to high replication cycles that give a positive test on the PCR. The numbers of positive cases would go down when the WHO pointed this out and said replication cycles need to be reduced because of the large numbers of false positives around the same time Biden was in inaugurated.

In world data from the UK and Israel (posted on here), COVID deaths went up significantly after vaccinations started. Was blamed on new variant in the UK, but Bossche suggests these are variants caused by Oxford AZ vaccines which were trialed in South Africa and Brazil and this is only the start of problems being found. Normally your immune system can cope with variants and there are safe and effective therapeutics to help.
 
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I wonder why we never read " reports of death following covid positive test do not necessarily mean the virus caused the death "
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This is what is sureal about what's happening, the CDC list numbers of COVID 19 deaths with underlying conditions contributing to death. Any other year in 94% of cases, the other causes like flu and pneumonia, cancer, heart attacks, poisoning, intentional injury would have been the listed as the cause of death.

But the press and national health officers ignore that and give us inflated numbers and percentages of young people and people under 75, they say died from COVID 19.

COVID-19 Provisional Counts - Weekly Updates by Select Demographic and Geographic Characteristics

Tabulated data on provisional COVID-19 deaths by age, sex, race and Hispanic origin, and comorbidities. Also includes an index of state-level and county-level mortality data available for download.
www.cdc.gov www.cdc.gov

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And now for the daily damage control bullshit. Effectively just called europe a bunch of pansies and liars. Australia knows better apparently, get your jab no matter what is what this really means.

Seventeen million AstraZeneca vaccines have been given around Europe, and there is no evidence of a link to blood clotting disorders, Australia's chief medical officer has said.
"My faith as chief medical officer and my colleagues have faith in the AstraZeneca vaccine," Dr Paul Kelly said.
"We have confidence in that vaccine, and others should do so as well."
"Seventeen million doses right across Europe, and no evidence. That's important."
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Now it's have faith and not trust the science?
Problem is the COVID AZ adverse effects reporting site from the UK has a delay of 4 weeks after injections started and only covers a month. The UK have refused to say how many doses of AZ injections were given in that time but have an analysis of adverse effects and deaths in that time period. They say they were averaging 80,000 doses a day mid Jan, but most of this would have been Pfizer which they started early, so an estimate of 1 to 2 million doses for these AZ adverse reaction figure.


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Seems in this short initial window of jabs, there are more problems with people dying from heart attacks summarised here.
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Also, not sure how Sick Hunt can say his Cellulitis wasn't related to his injection when there were 140 cases and one death reported in the first month. After one dose 174 COVID-19 cases and 14 deaths as well.

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Pfizer analysis report.
 
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CDC Data Shows COVID-19 Vaccines are Far Deadlier than Regular Influenza Vaccines – Anthony Colpo

anthonycolpo.com anthonycolpo.com

'During the 2018-2019 flu season, 169.1 million doses of influenza vaccines were distributed throughout the US. The corresponding figure for the 2019-2020 season was 174.5 million. ........ the 2018-2019 flu season show 22 deaths for the multitude of influenza vaccine products distributed in the US. ........ And the results for the 2019-2020 flu season show 17 deaths for same multitude of influenza vaccine products.

Now, let's compare these figures with those for the COVID-19 vaccines. "Over 92 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines were administered in the United States from December 14, 2020, through March 8, 2021. During this time, VAERS received 1,637 reports of death (0.0018%) among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine." (Bold emphasis added).
Despite less than three months of use and a far lower number of people vaccinated, the new COVID-19 vaccines have already accumulated a 96-fold higher volume of death reports than what was seen for influenza vaccines during the 2019-2020 season, and a 74-fold higher volume when compared to the 2018-2019 season.
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It's an important comparison of experimental mRNA vaccines with vaccines made in the "normal" way and both distributed to multimillions of people.

74 - 96 times more deaths.
 

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Denmark, Norway and Iceland last week suspended the vaccine’s use but pressure on politicians rose Monday after a recommendation by the Paul Ehrlich Institute, Germany’s medicines regulator, to suspend the vaccine’s rollout pending further investigation.

Institute President Klaus Cichutek defended the recommendation, saying his experts identified seven cases in Germany of cerebral vein thrombosis, a severe brain condition. Three of those people died, which he said justified the pause.

Six of the seven patients were women, and all were between 20 and 50 years old, the institute added. More than 1.6 million people got the vaccine in Germany.

“I think the citizens want to be able to trust that the vaccines we offer are safe and efficient,” Prof. Cichutek said in a televised interview. He said his experts and EU authorities want to determine whether evidence indicates a random statistical fluctuation or a link to the vaccine.

Germany’s healthcare ministry said that based on the number of vaccinations given it would have expected as many as 1.4 cases of cerebral vein thrombosis, and the seven cases merited a pause
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www.wsj.com

Europe Weighs Caution on AstraZeneca Vaccine Against Covid-19 Threat

Governments that have halted the shots have overruled scientists, who say the benefits of inoculation outweigh potential risks.
www.wsj.com www.wsj.com
 
It really is going to be interesting viewing this winter to see how those who got jabbed react to still getting sick, just like the mask wearers who vigorously apply their mask before entering a shop only to see the staff not wearing them.

One word, confusion because these people who rush out and get it will be under the assumption that they were to never get sick again, that's how stupid most of the terrified are.

And when they do get sick they will rush the testing centre, probably get asked if they have been jabbed and they will say yes, 99% confident that the test will return a negative result because the government will not want people returning a positive test result after getting jabbed as that is not good for business which brings me onto another point.

Now the government will not want those who get jabbed to then get sick returning a positive test result right, but they are then in a bit of bother because they then can't tell said sick person to isolate for 14 days now can they if they return them negative so it's going to be real interesting to see what they do here.

Going to be a lot of goalpost shifting i feel and quite a lot of narrative shifting.

But make no mistake these will get pushed with the help of a compliant media.

Example A: person tests positive but not jabbed, " if they were jabbed they wouldn't have got sick, this is why it's important to get jabbed "
Example B: person tests negative and was jabbed which will lead to this " see see vaccines do work, there is the proof now get jabbed "
 
Many of the hospital and health workers jumped onto Pfizer's first Perth arrival of doses, but the Oxford AZ will be the injection that the WA State Gov't will offer to the population GoEaglesGoSGIO, while the Federal Gov't will offer Pfizer injections to remote WA Aboriginal communities.

Many in contact with one recipient of these first injections have come down with a nasty cold. Good news is that the youngest (1 year) has the mildest symptoms with only runny nose, sneezy and minor cough for a few days.

Sydney Health officers now trying to connect the vaccinated guard's COVID 19 strain saying he contracted it from people only now having symptoms on the floor of the Hotel, when it's most likely he passed the virus (British strain linked by others to the vaccine) onto them.
 
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https://www.businessinsider.com.au/...irus-vaccine-in-2-days-2020-11?op=1&r=US&IR=T

Moderna's groundbreaking coronavirus vaccine was designed in just 2 days
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The decision came after an independent expert panel voted overwhelmingly to recommend the authorization on Thursday. Moderna’s vaccine candidate was found to be 94.5% effective in preventing COVID-19 in clinical trials, and it doesn’t trigger severe side effects in most people.
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But perhaps more remarkable is that Moderna designed its vaccine in just two days in January, before some people had even heard of the coronavirus.
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BlueE said:
Many of the hospital and health workers jumped onto Pfizer's first Perth arrival of doses, but the Oxford AZ will be the injection that the WA State Gov't will offer to the population GoEaglesGoSGIO, while the Federal Gov't will offer Pfizer injections to remote WA Aboriginal communities.

Many in contact with one recipient of these first injections have come down with a nasty cold. Good news is that the youngest (1 year) has the mildest symptoms with only runny nose, sneezy and minor cough for a few days.

Sydney Health officers now trying to connect the vaccinated guard's COVID 19 strain saying he contracted it from people only now having symptoms on the floor of the Hotel, when it's most likely he passed the virus (British strain linked by others to the vaccine) onto them.
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More of the long term effects of Pfizer that concern me. Pfizer is a proven evil company completely devoid of morality.

Thats the bigger concern

Hopefully I can just flush the vaccine down the toilet and get my certificate though
 
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