Conspiracy Theory Coronavirus #2: Lockdowns

[Joey JoJo Shabad]

So Pfizer wants to kill people - not sure how that helps their business model.
Maybe you can explain it to me.

You can't trust a manufacturer that's granted no liability for a product they label safe.

Especially a company that has a criminal history & have been found guilty of health fraud.

-- In the largest health care fraud settlement in history, pharmaceutical giant Pfizer must pay $2.3 billion to resolve criminal and civil allegations that the company illegally promoted uses of four of its drugs, including the painkiller Bextra, the U.S. Department of Justice announced Wednesday.

https://abcnews.go.com/Business/pfizer-fined-23-billion-illegal-marketing-off-label/story?id=8477617

 

[No SPIN]

Talking about a event doesn’t mean it has or will happen. In the end it’s not a converstation, it’s a distraction

You have spent all the time in this thread rambling about how physical actions and physical decisions are the only things worth defining yet here you are spouting illogical crap from the IMF about a non existent plan they have no plan to introducel Doesn’t make any sense

In the end you need to connect a decision with a negative response. Everything we do has one, Even driving a car has a negative response in the pollution it creates. The pollution of COvid is wealth transfer. Wishing it away won’t make it go away. You of all people should know this since it’s a part of your very definition, well so I thought

You can have your own opinion and that’s okay but you gotta show some consistency in your thought processes. Which you normally do. Unlike NO SPIN who has the consistency of melted ice cream

don’t worry about me mate - I’m here exposing your BS and that off your mates.
Delusion, misinformation and naïveté is your stock and trade that I’ll continue to target.

 

[giggler99]

Spanish Flu should have been the American Flu
Theres plenty

Hong Kong flu - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Even the Australian Flu

What is Australian flu? The signs and symptoms to look out for

What is Australian flu? The strain of flu has hit the UK and is warned to be deadly. Find out the symptoms and treatment for Aussie flu

www.hellomagazine.com

so its common than

why the need for the news to hyperbole variants of covid and not variants of flu?

 

[Bender20]

Yet I didnt say it wasnt so
Its fact
the only way to reverse it is through higher taxes on the ones who did well and not cut services on the ones who didnt

The IMF is on board ScoMo has said he isnt raising taxes he is cutting Job keeper and seeker instead and has legislated tax cuts for the rich


The system of lockdowns social distancing and masks that worked is the system I supported the half arsed that you guys supported has failed economically and health wise
Then you double down with anti vax to prolong the economic and health pain on mainly poor people

The sheeple are the ones doing the silly things that hurt themselves and benefit their overlords

Hangon, its the antivaxxers fault prolonging the pain ?

You stated you weren't in a hurry to get the vaccine, that you would wait and see what happens, get it if you want to travel, and then you spout that ?

I stood up and said ive never given vaccines to myself, my kids my dogs or cats, yet I respect those who do because its every persons right.

I've read by other posters that my personal right, and one that I have adhered to by law by filling out the appropriate documentation, these decisions not made lightly, means,
I Should be shot in the head!?.

Seriously your demeanour is ugly, you drink the cool aid of the drug companies, Astrazenica states 100% effective yet in a double blind study might not even give 10% protection, 10% bloody percent.

The UK parliament have stated that they are not sure if the vaccine will work, that older people will still die unfortunately, and maybe even the younger ones! . Lockdowns could be the norm .. I can put up the 2 hours of parliament video if you like.

You can have your opinion it's respected atleast by me, but don't point your finger at me, I've done the work and taken the abuse without argument.

My decisions have never harmed another person.
I have worn the masks, social distanced, abided by what the government decides is law.
Yet here we are in a stupid position, their (government)decisions weren't clever, they have no B plan they have no real A plan. Vaccines lmao.

We were told 2 weeks to flatten the curb!
I was lied to so get fcked.

 

[burge13]

Can you cut the Hyperbole

Variants have been more contagious ....fact
The clusters that escaped hotels quarantines lately have been spread through ventilation far more readily
Just because we are better prepared and have better treatments doesnt mean they arent more deadly

Just look at whats happening globally especially Brazil to see the threat as real

Its not hyperbole Hawkie. This time theyre telling the truth. Its so extra contagious unlike the UK one Adelaide saw and shut down over. Or unlike the one brisbane had. Or Sydney. All these other "more deadly and contagious" variants were lies. THIS TIME, finally, its more worrying...

 

[Hawk Dork]

Its not hyperbole Hawkie. This time theyre telling the truth. Its so extra contagious unlike the UK one Adelaide saw and shut down over. Or unlike the one brisbane had. Or Sydney. All these other "more deadly and contagious" variants were lies. THIS TIME, finally, its more worrying...

What about the rest of the un vaxed world why are they surging
Even Sweden is going into its 3rd wave so herd immunity isnt working on the new variables

 

[No SPIN]

You can't trust a manufacturer that's granted no liability for a product they label safe.

Especially a company that has a criminal history & have been found guilty of health fraud.





https://abcnews.go.com/Business/pfizer-fined-23-billion-illegal-marketing-off-label/story?id=8477617

what’s that got to do with a Vaccine designed to depopulate the world ?
How does such a Vaccine help it’s business model?

 

[Hawk Dork]

Hangon, its the antivaxxers fault prolonging the pain ?

You stated you weren't in a hurry to get the vaccine, that you would wait and see what happens, get it if you want to travel, and then you spout that ?

I stood up and said ive never given vaccines to myself, my kids my dogs or cats, yet I respect those who do because its every persons right.

I've read by other posters that my personal right, and one that I have adhered to by law by filling out the appropriate documentation, these decisions not made lightly, means,
I Should be shot in the head!?.

Seriously your demeanour is ugly, you drink the cool aid of the drug companies, Astrazenica states 100% effective yet in a double blind study might not even give 10% protection, 10% bloody percent.

The UK parliament have stated that they are not sure if the vaccine will work, that older people will still die unfortunately, and maybe even the younger ones! . Lockdowns could be the norm .. I can put up the 2 hours of parliament video if you like.

You can have your opinion it's respected atleast by me, but don't point your finger at me, I've done the work and taken the abuse without argument.

My decisions have never harmed another person.
I have worn the masks, social distanced, abided by what the government decides is law.
Yet here we are in a stupid position, their (government)decisions weren't clever, they have no B plan they have no real A plan. Vaccines lmao.

We were told 2 weeks to flatten the curb!
I was lied to so get fcked.

It will be
In Australia its incompetent roll out of the vaccine by the feds that will keep us locked down longer than we should be.
The virus has got out by unvaxed Drs and Nurses dealing with OS arrivals in quarantine

We should have taken advantage of our elimination and started bubbles with vaxed nations
Resumed our multi billion dollar education industry and fruit pickers

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

don’t worry about me mate - I’m here exposing your BS and that I’ve your mates.
Delusion, misinformation and naïveté is your stock and trade that I’ll continue to target.

Not sure how something you never read or watch can be considered misinformation.

In all honesty my stock is more or less a demand for responsibility, a desire for empathy and I guess the want to create a systemic judgement as opposed to isolating one event to form a long standing overarching thought

I mean I’m not gonna forgive the big pharma for the opioid crisis that grips the world because they made a needle that may or may not work that they refuse to take legal responsibility for but I guess you can

 

[burge13]

What about the rest of the un vaxed world why are they surging
Even Sweden is going into its 3rd wave so herd immunity isnt working on the new variables

The only way out of this is never be allowed out of the house ever again. Never see people in person, shops shut and everything delivered. Only then can we minimise the spread of a virus. Of course everyone will still need to be vaccinated and wear masks just to be safe!!

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

what’s that got to do with a Vaccine designed to depopulate the world ?
How does such a Vaccine help it’s business model?

Your customer base doesn’t matter when it’s gigantic. Based on this concept McDonalds should stop selling Big Macs because 50,000 of its customer base despises or something

Big business works differently than you think. Stop treating it like a mom and pop store with 12 customers

 

[Hawk Dork]

The only way out of this is never be allowed out of the house ever again. Never see people in person, shops shut and everything delivered. Only then can we minimise the spread of a virus. Of course everyone will still need to be vaccinated and wear masks just to be safe!!

Total moronic Rubbish

When everyone is vaxed there will eventually be no need for masks

Israel is keeping masks after major vaxing for protection from potential arrivals with variants
They just dont know and are being cautious


Time and vaxing will either stop the variants or the variants will require a tweak of the vax

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

What about the rest of the un vaxed world why are they surging
Even Sweden is going into its 3rd wave so herd immunity isnt working on the new variables

We all agree on this as a potential reality, which kind of means the vaccine isnt the solution?

Too a tee everyone in this thread thinks a treatment plan is the way out and not lockdowns and a vaccine. Isn’t this concept of variants just proving that ?

One thing you never answered is. Why isn’t a treatment plan a answer?

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Total moronic Rubbish

When everyone is vaxed there will eventually be no need for masks

Israel is keeping masks after major vaxing for protection from potential arrivals with variants
They just dont know and are being cautious


Time and vaxing will either stop the variants or the variants will require a tweak of the vax

We know this though. We agree they don’t know. We are just less forgiving of that anomaly then you are id say.

 

[No SPIN]

Not sure how something you never read or watch can be considered misinformation.

In all honesty my stock is more or less a demand for responsibility, a desire for empathy and I guess the want to create a systemic judgement as opposed to isolating one event to form a long standing overarching thought

I mean I’m not gonna forgive the big pharma for the opioid crisis that grips the world because they made a needle that may or may not work that they refuse to take legal responsibility for but I guess you can

And yet you continue to insist this has all been started by China for their long term benefit - and that long term benefit is becoming the World fastest growing economy.
I pointed out that China has been the Worlds fastest growing economy for the last 20 years - so your theory was mush.
And still today you go on about China - go figure

 

[Hawk Dork]

We all agree on this as a potential reality, which kind of means the vaccine isnt the solution?

Too a tee everyone in this thread thinks a treatment plan is the way out and not lockdowns and a vaccine. Isn’t this concept of variants just proving that ?

Dont the varinats need un vaxed people to mutate between

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

And yet you continue to insist this has all been started by China for their long term benefit - and that long term benefit is becoming the World fastest growing economy.
I pointed out that China has been the Worlds fastest growing economy for the last 20 years - so your theory was mush.
And still today you go on about China - go figure

You need to explain why China creating and spreading the virus is a inconsequential act. I’m just lost as to why you think they are perfect. Can you give some context

 

[Hawk Dork]

We know this though. We agree they don’t know. We are just less forgiving of that anomaly then you are id say.

So your solution is dont allow new arrivals that potential may jepordise your countries achievments or ban masks so Karen and Sovierign citizen can feel free...regardless of out comes ?

Or do you take a slower measured response and adjust as more information becomes available ignoring the peanut gallery?

 

[Hawk Dork]

You need to explain why China creating and spreading the virus is a inconsequential act. I’m just lost as to why you think they are perfect. Can you give some context

Why would the worlds supplier of goods want to hobble its customer base ?

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Dont the varinats need un vaxed people to mutate between

Not necessarily. Just a host to attach too. You can hope it’s like small pox but it’s a unrealistic aim. Smallpox had a max 15 million cases and in 10 years after it got wiped. It also did not penetrate as many borders as this.. COVID has 132 million according to the data so the variants capability is well 10 times higher

The comparison vaccine wise is the flu. It’s never gone away, it’s got a ton of variants and it continues to be a part of our lives. This is likely to be the same really

 

[Hawk Dork]

Not necessarily. Just a host to attach too. You can hope it’s like small pox but it’s a unrealistic aim. Smallpox had a max 15 million cases and in 10 years after it got wiped. It also did not penetrate as many borders as this.. COVID has 132 million according to the data so the variants capability is well 10 times higher

The comparison vaccine wise is the flu. It’s never gone away, it’s got a ton of variants and it continues to be a part of our lives. This is likely to be the same really

The vax reduces symptoms and hospitalisation so it makes you less of a host

Obviously it will bounce around in poorer countries until we vax them too

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Why would the worlds supplier of goods want to hobble its customer base ?

Soooo many reasons. I guess the true answer is. If China’s economy outpaced Us by 11 percent and EU by 15 percent, why would this not be a benefit?

I kind of feel like you are questioning basic economic principles here and I can’t really argue back if you won’t accept them

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

The vax reduces symptoms and hospitalisation so it makes you less of a host

Obviously it will bounce around in poorer countries until we vax them too

How did that go with the flu thoug? Its a failed concept you are perpetuating here

 

[Hawk Dork]

Soooo many reasons. I guess the true answer is. If China’s economy outpaced Us by 11 percent and EU by 15 percent, why would this not be a benefit?

I kind of feel like you are questioning basic economic principles here and I can’t really argue back if you won’t accept them

I could see an argument for why the US would want to hobble its potential rival though

 

[Hawk Dork]

How did that go with the flu thoug? Its a failed concept you are perpetuating here

The vax for the flu is not as effective as the Ronna vaxes
Maybe that may change with the new knowledge we got developing the ronna vaxes