Conspiracy Theory Coronavirus #2: Lockdowns

[Bender20]

Great post.

Why the hell we just didn't throw massive support into protecting the elderly, obese, those with morbidities is beyond me... children and healthy adults under around 50 years of age are at miniscule risk, let them get on with their lives for f..k sake.

Yes that should have been plan A.

 

[Bender20]

I want to travel by the end of next year so I want the whole world to get vaxed

LOL my son said the same thing, I looked at him and thought this is not how I brought you up.

 

[Bender20]

Love the principles of Buddhism, the Noble truths. I am an atheist when it comes to institutionalised religion but am open to other realms of existence, check my signature for my fundamental opinion on life. I should give it a rest, getting a bit deep and meaningful.

Well in my 20s I was listening to everyone's new years resolutions, I gave it some thought and decided to work on something I didn't like about myself, I'm a product of that after 25 plus years.

Remember its better to have depth than be shallow.

 

[Lebbo73]

Please answer the question - how is Pfizer business model enhanced by releasing a Vaccine knowingly designed to depopulate the planet.
It’s a simple question the conspiracy theorists need to answer.

It’s already known that Gates vaccines destroy fertility, especially in women. Covid19 vaccines have been questioned as they’re linked to failed pregnancies and loss of fertility. Gates is on the record as saying that they can reduce the world’s population by approximately 10% through effective vaccines.

 

[No SPIN]

It’s already known that Gates vaccines destroy fertility, especially in women. Covid19 vaccines have been questioned as they’re linked to failed pregnancies and loss of fertility. Gates is on the record as saying that they can reduce the world’s population by approximately 10% through effective vaccines.

if you’re not going to answer the question about Pfizer’s business model then please don’t waste my time with more misinformation.

 

[Hawk Dork]

It’s already known that Gates vaccines destroy fertility, especially in women. Covid19 vaccines have been questioned as they’re linked to failed pregnancies and loss of fertility. Gates is on the record as saying that they can reduce the world’s population by approximately 10% through effective vaccines.

Did Bill Gates 'Admit' Vaccinations Are Designed So Governments Can 'Depopulate' the World?

The computer magnate believes that vaccines can be used to reduce childhood mortality and ultimately reduce population growth through associated social changes, not as an agent of death.

www.snopes.com

 

[Hawk Dork]

if you’re not going to answer the question about Pfizer’s business model then please don’t waste my time with more misinformation.

Lebbos been listening to these guys

A Christian Right broadcaster, Brannon Howse of “Worldview Watch,” warned that Gates and the “medical globalist deep state” were using the crisis to regulate people’s fertility depending on their worldview, through “procreation tickets” and microchips.

 

[Lebbo73]

Did Bill Gates 'Admit' Vaccinations Are Designed So Governments Can 'Depopulate' the World?

The computer magnate believes that vaccines can be used to reduce childhood mortality and ultimately reduce population growth through associated social changes, not as an agent of death.

www.snopes.com

I didn’t say death. I said by destroying fertility rates.

 

[No SPIN]

Lebbos been listening to these guys

A Christian Right broadcaster, Brannon Howse of “Worldview Watch,” warned that Gates and the “medical globalist deep state” were using the crisis to regulate people’s fertility depending on their worldview, through “procreation tickets” and microchips.

Aren’t they capable of independent thought and research?
Their gullibility is very sad.

 

[Hawk Dork]

I didn’t say death. I said by destroying fertility rates.

False claim about Covid-19 vaccine causing infertility circulates online

A video post claims pharmaceutical giant GlaxoSmithKline’s Covid-19 vaccine contains ingredients that will cause infertility, and that immunized men can make unvaccinated women sterile, which would cause a global population decline. This is false; the drug company does not have its own Covid-19...

factcheck.afp.com

 

[No SPIN]

I didn’t say death. I said by destroying fertility rates.

So now you’re suggesting a Contraceptive Vaccine is the devils plan and implemented by Big Pharma.

Haven’t you heard of the Contraceptive Pill - it’s only been around for 40 years.

 

[Hawk Dork]

Aren’t they capable of independent thought and research?
Their gullibility is very sad.

cant even google apparently

 

[Spitty_the_alpaca]

cant even google apparently

nup your cooked

 

[Hawk Dork]

nup your cooked

based on evidence or just an independent thought of yours ?

 

[Lebbo73]

Lebbos been listening to these guys

A Christian Right broadcaster, Brannon Howse of “Worldview Watch,” warned that Gates and the “medical globalist deep state” were using the crisis to regulate people’s fertility depending on their worldview, through “procreation tickets” and microchips.

I’ve never heard of them. Geez you can spin some shit in this thread.

 

[yebiga]

The Covid-19 epidemic affects the whole world, yet its mortality varies from 0.0003% in China to 0.016% in the United States, i.e. more than 50 times higher.

1- What is a virus?
Viruses are living beings according to the European definition of life, but mere mechanisms according to the Anglo-Saxon definition of life. This cultural difference leads to different behaviours. For the Anglo-Saxons, viruses should be destroyed, whereas for Europeans it was - until last year - a matter of adapting to them.

If we think of viruses as living beings, we should compare them to parasites. They seek to live at the expense of their host and certainly not to kill it, because they would die themselves. They try to adapt to the host species by varying until they find a way to live in it without killing it. The Covid-19 variants are therefore not the "horsemen of the Apocalypse", but very good news in line with the evolution of species.

Similarly, if one believes that viruses are living beings, one cannot give credence to the epidemic models developed by Professor Neil Ferguson of Imperial College London and his followers, such as Simon Cauchemez of the Conseil Scientifique de l’Élysée. By definition, the growth of any living thing is not exponential. Each species regulates itself according to its environment. To plot the start of an epidemic and then extrapolate it is intellectual nonsense. Professor Fergusson spent his life predicting catastrophes that never happen.

2- What to do in the face of an epidemic?
All epidemics have historically been successfully fought by a combination of isolating the sick and increasing hygiene.
In the case of a viral epidemic, hygiene is not used to combat the virus, but the bacterial diseases that develop in those infected by the virus. For example, the Spanish flu in 1918-20 was a viral disease. It was actually a benign virus, but in the context of the First World War, very poor hygiene conditions allowed the development of opportunistic bacterial diseases that killed en masse.

From a medical point of view, isolation applies only to the sick and only to them. Never in history has a healthy population been quarantined to control a disease. You will not find any work of medicine older than a year anywhere in the world that contemplates such a measure.
The current lockdowns are neither medical nor political measures, but administrative. They do not aim to reduce the number of patients, but to spread their contamination over time, so as not to congest certain hospital departments. The aim is to compensate for the poor management of health institutions. Most viral epidemics last three years. In the case of Covid-19, the natural duration of the epidemic will be extended by the administrative duration of the containment.

The use of surgical masks by a healthy population to combat a respiratory virus has never been effective. Indeed, until Covid-19, none of the known respiratory viruses are transmitted by sputum, but by aerosol. Only gas masks are effective. It is of course possible that Covid-19 is the first germ of a new genus, but this rational hypothesis is highly unlikely.
It is important to note that Covid-2 did not just affect Asia in 2003-04, but also the West. It was an epidemic in the same way as Covid-19 in 2020-21. It is now treated with interferon-alpha and protease inhibitors. There is no vaccine.

3- Can we treat a disease that we do not know?
Even if you don’t know a virus, you can and should still treat the symptoms it causes. This is not only a way to relieve the sick, but also a condition for learning about this disease.
Western politicians have chosen not to treat Covid-19 and to spend all their money on vaccines. This decision goes against the Hippocratic Oath to which every Western doctor is committed. Of course, many Western doctors continue to work, but they do so as discreetly as possible, otherwise they are threatened with legal and administrative sanctions.

However, several drug treatments are successfully administered in non-Western countries.

As early as the beginning of 2020 - i.e. before the epidemic reached the West - Cuba showed that some patients could be treated and cured with small doses of recombinant Interferon Alfa 2B (IFNrec). China built a factory to produce this Cuban drug on a large scale in February 2021 and has since been using it for certain types of patients [5].

China has also used an anti-malarial drug, chloroquine phosphate. It is from this experience that Professor Didider Raoult used hydroxychloroquine, of which he is one of the world’s leading experts. This drug is used successfully in many countries, despite the grotesque fake news of the Lancet and the dominant media, which claim that this commonplace drug, administered to billions of patients, is a deadly poison.

States that have made the opposite choice to those in the West, i.e. those that have prioritised health care over vaccines, have collectively developed a cocktail of cheap drugs (including hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin) that massively treat Covid (see box). The results are so spectacular that Westerners question the figures published by these states, led by China.

4- How will this epidemic end?
In the countries using the medical responses outlined above, Covid-19 is still present, but the epidemic is already over. Vaccines are only offered to those at high risk.
In the West, where we refuse to treat the sick, the only solution seems to be to vaccinate the entire population. Powerful pharmaceutical lobbies push for the mass use of expensive vaccines rather than cheap drugs for a thousand times fewer patients. This has led to a deadly rivalry between states for the available doses at the expense of their allies.

When the West pursued Reason it was the herald of Science. Today, it is no longer. It still has great scientists, such as Professor Didier Raoult, and technical progress, as evidenced by messenger RNA vaccines, but no longer has the rigour to reason scientifically. A distinction must also be made between the regions of the West: the Anglo-Saxon countries (United Kingdom and United States) were able to manufacture messenger RNA vaccines, not the European Union, which has lost its inventiveness.
The centre of the world has shifted to China

Translation
Roger Lagassé

 

[yebiga]

So now you’re suggesting a Contraceptive Vaccine is the devils plan and implemented by Big Pharma.

Haven’t you heard of the Contraceptive Pill - it’s only been around for 40 years.

Longer, but your mother obviously misread the instructions.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

my theory is simple.
We correctly prepared for the worst ( eg in Vic spent $1.3 bill on 4,000 ICU beds).
Thankfully the pandemic by Sept was nowhere near as bad as first thought,but we were still in lockdown.
At that time there was adequate data available that confirmed death rates were not anywhere near 7% that occurred in Italy or close to the modeling from the UK group, that initially that spooked the globe.
So with this abundance of data, the politicians should have wrested power from their Medical advisors - “thanks guys it turned much better than we hoped and clearly this virus is no where near as deadly as first expected - now give us a plan to protect high risk people. And BTW we are lifting lockdowns.”

That’s how it should have worked, particular as deaths in winter are common from Flu - in 2019, for example 1255 people died from FLU, and thats WITH a Vaccine.

So where we are today? We have politicians lacking the fortitude to challenge their Medical advisors with that data clearly confirms the risks are not commensurate with need for knee jerk lockdowns, particularly as we’ve had not deaths from the UK strain IIRC.

Further, we we are now in a vicious cycle - the popularity of politicians is soaring and so they are reluctant to pull back strongly, incase another wave hits and their poll numbers plummet with accusations of premature easing.

so it’s a viscous cycle of incompetence.

I’m not fussed about the Origins of the virus - but I will say if it had started in Frankston, without a Bat, Wet market or Virus lab in sight I doubt the International media would have been interested or have blown it up.
Bat Viruses from Chinese wet markets are irresistible to Western Media keen to expose China in every way possible.

Ulterior motives - you need a ONE “they” as being behind this. But with so many conflicting interests between Big PHarma, Big Oil, Big Finance, ONE “they”doesn’t exist and so no Conspiracy Theory has any credibility.

The old saying “ Given the choice between Conspiracy and a stuff up - always choose a stuff up”, is perfect for what has unfolded in the last 12 months.

Always blame the firefighter for not putting out the fire. Don’t worry about the arsonsist who started it

Clearly you have heavy investment in China hence your support of there diseases and slave camps but none of us here really want to hear it. Go to Baidu and find a fan club there for your cheerleading

 

[Hawk Dork]

Australia warned it won't achieve herd immunity unless it deals with vaccine hesitancy

Reopening international border won’t happen until enough Australians are vaccinated

Deputy chief health officer Michael Kidd noted that his “colleagues overseas appear to be seeing one to two cases” of recipients who develop the condition per one million recipients.
“By contrast we know that the risk of death from Covid-19 remains at one to two deaths per 100 people infected,” Kidd said.

Health experts are now concerned Australia’s vaccine-hesitancy rates – which were as high as 36% in mid-March (13% said they will not get any Covid-19 vaccine, 23% said they were unsure) – will remain high without early and intense targeting of hesitant groups.

Australia warned it won't achieve herd immunity unless it deals with vaccine hesitancy

Reopening international border won’t happen until enough Australians are vaccinated

www.theguardian.com

Come on people your keeping Australia locked down for longer than we need

 

[No SPIN]

Always blame the firefighter for not putting out the fire. Don’t worry about the arsonsist who started it

Clearly you have heavy investment in China hence your support of there diseases and slave camps but none of us here really want to hear it. Go to Baidu and find a fan club there for your cheerleading

And you can hide under the bed, closed off from reality, reading posts on QANON, and lamenting the state of the world and how “they” will take over.
Eventually you’ll wake and realize what a fool you were, to have been seduced by fanciful Conspiracy having wasted so many years of your life.

Seriously mate, I feels sorry for you.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

And you can hide under the bed, closed off from reality, reading posts on QANON, and lamenting the state of the world and how “they” will take over.
Eventually you’ll wake and realize what a fool you were, to have been seduced by fanciful Conspiracy having wasted so many years of your life.

Seriously mate, I feels sorry for you.

How am I hiding under my bed? Im the one who wants to live my life with freedom to do what I like?

They will take over is cute. They already have.

 

[No SPIN]

Longer, but your mother obviously misread the instructions.

Waving the white flag, with ridicule because you have no capacity for debate.
So transparent.

 

[Hawk Dork]

How am I hiding under my bed? Im the one who wants to live my life with freedom to do what I like?

They will take over is cute. They already have.

So there would be no need to wipe out their customer and supply base with a virus ?

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

So there would be no need to wipe out their customer and supply base with a virus ?

I dont actually believe the depopulation theory in its entirety by the way. I do believe that it hasnt been measured nor do they care if it is a side effect. Very interested to know how a injection made in 12 months and only passed initial efficacy trials would have also been tested against fertility? They dont even know how much of the drug to give to people and when ffs. Why do you think they would then have the answer about what it does to fertility?

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Waving the white flag, with ridicule because you have no capacity for debate.
So transparent.

You are not debating though? You are repeating the same concepts ad naeusum irregardless of the irrefutable evidence we keep shoving down your throat. You are one of those people who comes here to shove his opinion down others throats as opposed to hear what others have to say. Always the lowest form of poster on sites like this